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Mar 17, 2013 at 1:34 PM
- rodgerscomehome
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Interesting draft, but if we get Nnamdi and Woodson, it would be somewhat of a waste to get 4 defensive backs in the draft (Williams, P. Thomas, Mathieu, Banks). I realize Nnamdi and Woodson would be our short-term plan but I'd rather focus on other needs, such as D-Line depth and tight end. We all know Brown and Rogers are solid CBs, but most fans don't realize Chris Culliver was, according to Pro Football Focus, the best CB in the league at not allowing TD's/first downs, allowing only 17 combined TDs/first downs on a total of 493 snaps for a league-leading percentage of 3.45%. Now, I'm not suggesting he's the best corner in the league as he's clearly not (look @ the playoffs for instance), but then again you have to realize that he's in some pretty impressive company. Grading out the top 15 in terms of TD/first down percentage includes guys like Leon Hall, Champ Bailey, Richard Sherman, Casey Hayward, Antonio Cromartie, Kareem Jackson, and Brandon Browner. Basically, what I'm getting at is I don't think that CB is a glaring need for us. Other than that, this is a pretty realistic draft that fills most, but not all, of our needs.
Mar 17, 2013 at 1:36 PM
- m_brockalexander
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Strong mock. Would rather go for another d lineman over two WR's but that's just me. Would also actually switch the draft slots of Moore and Mathieu. That is more realistic. Niners can't trade comp picks, so they should have two more choices in the 7th round.
Mar 17, 2013 at 1:46 PM
- Cooper22
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Originally posted by rodgerscomehome:
Interesting draft, but if we get Nnamdi and Woodson, it would be somewhat of a waste to get 4 defensive backs in the draft (Williams, P. Thomas, Mathieu, Banks). I realize Nnamdi and Woodson would be our short-term plan but I'd rather focus on other needs, such as D-Line depth and tight end. We all know Brown and Rogers are solid CBs, but most fans don't realize Chris Culliver was, according to Pro Football Focus, the best CB in the league at not allowing TD's/first downs, allowing only 17 combined TDs/first downs on a total of 493 snaps for a league-leading percentage of 3.45%. Now, I'm not suggesting he's the best corner in the league as he's clearly not (look @ the playoffs for instance), but then again you have to realize that he's in some pretty impressive company. Grading out the top 15 in terms of TD/first down percentage includes guys like Leon Hall, Champ Bailey, Richard Sherman, Casey Hayward, Antonio Cromartie, Kareem Jackson, and Brandon Browner. Basically, what I'm getting at is I don't think that CB is a glaring need for us. Other than that, this is a pretty realistic draft that fills most, but not all, of our needs.
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Strong mock. Would rather go for another d lineman over two WR's but that's just me. Would also actually switch the draft slots of Moore and Mathieu. That is more realistic. Niners can't trade comp picks, so they should have two more choices in the 7th round.
I think I went a little over board with the d backs, but I still think it's our biggest need and both safety positions should be upgraded through the draft or free agency.
As for D-line, I think Jones, Dobbs, and Tukuafu can provide good depth at the end positions, and Dorsey and Williams at NT..
Also, I'm really high on Griffin at TE and think he can be a number 2 right away..
As for receivers, I'm a fan of having a plethora of receivers going into training camp and may the best man win.. Always seems we lack good receiver depth come playoff time..
Edit: took out nnamdi and woodson.. Don't need them with this draft
[ Edited by Cooper22 on Mar 17, 2013 at 1:59 PM ]
Mar 17, 2013 at 1:55 PM
- AB81Rules
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Eliminate a 6th round pick, that was traded for Boldin. Other wise solid mock.
Mar 17, 2013 at 1:57 PM
- Cooper22
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Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Eliminate a 6th round pick, that was traded for Boldin. Other wise solid mock.
Forgot about that, thanks.
Mar 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM
- 49ersGiants7
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Love the Banks pick, he returns punts too.Slow 40 time could push him right to us.
Phillip Thomas doesn't seem like a 49er type safety.
Phillip Thomas doesn't seem like a 49er type safety.
Mar 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM
- 49erRob
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My favorite mock so far. I love the first 5 picks
Mar 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM
- Cooper22
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Originally posted by 49ersGiants7:
Love the Banks pick, he returns punts too.Slow 40 time could push him right to us.
Phillip Thomas doesn't seem like a 49er type safety.
49er type safeties have failed in big games against teams with a good vertical passing game.. Time to change the culture and the first step was letting Goldson walk.. Next step is Whitner.. Both were below average in pass coverage and had very little ball skills.
Mar 17, 2013 at 2:54 PM
- Mann716
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good draft but those receivers seem a lot like the ones we already have.
Mar 17, 2013 at 3:00 PM
- Cooper22
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Originally posted by Mann716:
good draft but those receivers seem a lot like the ones we already have.
Ehh idk.. Our 2 surefire starters next year are Crabtree and Boldin who are both bigger and stronger receivers that lack elite speed.. Both Stills and Swope have 4.3 speed along with toughness and ability to stretch the field.. Both are underrated IMO
Mar 17, 2013 at 3:13 PM
- LVJay
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I agree with the position at 1st pick and have no argument with D. Jones.
I'm fine with 2a, but if Nnamdi decides on Niners, then I would rather see either (WR) Deandre Hopkins or Da'Rick Rogers. I doubt they'll still be there, but if Baalke can move up, that would be nice if either one falls to us.
2b Phillip Thomas - cool pick!
With 3a/3b/3c, I'd like to snag, if still there, (NT) TJ Barnes... BPA at (TE) position... and, if still there Honeybadger or another DB.
4 - Sio Moore... that sounds good!
5a/5b - I want to see a kicker and wouldn't mind Ricky Wagner (if still there).
I really don't mind if the Niners just trade the rest of the picks for a higher draft pick(s) this year or next year.
I'm fine with 2a, but if Nnamdi decides on Niners, then I would rather see either (WR) Deandre Hopkins or Da'Rick Rogers. I doubt they'll still be there, but if Baalke can move up, that would be nice if either one falls to us.
2b Phillip Thomas - cool pick!
With 3a/3b/3c, I'd like to snag, if still there, (NT) TJ Barnes... BPA at (TE) position... and, if still there Honeybadger or another DB.
4 - Sio Moore... that sounds good!
5a/5b - I want to see a kicker and wouldn't mind Ricky Wagner (if still there).
I really don't mind if the Niners just trade the rest of the picks for a higher draft pick(s) this year or next year.
[ Edited by LVJay on Mar 17, 2013 at 3:16 PM ]
Mar 17, 2013 at 3:18 PM
- Hammerthrow99
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This is my favorite mock so far. Phillip Thomas is my favorite safety in this class and I'd love to see him in San Fran!
Mar 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM
- PhillyNiner
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Bravo sir....my favorite mock all year.
Mar 17, 2013 at 4:44 PM
- dlance
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I like the first 3 picks then i would start making changes. I would not draft 2 CB and 2 saftys I would not draft a RB in the third. I do understand that gore is not going to play forever and he has 1 or 2 more years. still maybe draft a RB next year, not this year.
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