DeMarcus Ware vs Aldon Smith | Page 10

joeymac49s · 2011-04-29T00:44:53-07:00

In case anyone is interested... Scouting reports from both DeMarcus Ware........ Demarcus is an excellent edge rusher with outstanding speed and change of direction agility. He lacks the ideal frame you look for in an every-down end and could be limited to situational duties in the NFL because of his lack of bulk. However, if one should watch his battles against 344-pound tackle Nate Griffin (Marshall) and 330-pounder Andrew Whitworth (LSU) in 2004, you will see a player that compensates for a lack of size with a relentless motor and excellent lateral agility. He is a fluid and flexible runner who plays at a low pad level and has proven to be very successful playing off the edge. Even with his long arms, when he works in-line, he struggles to disengage when the larger blockers lock on to him. However, he shows excellent snap anticipation ability and easily eludes blockers with his initial burst into the backfield. When he gets an edge on an offensive lineman's shoulder, he is quick to turn the corner and shows urgency closing on the passer. Ware can make opposite field plays due to his acceleration and has exceptional ability to come off the edge to collapse the pocket and reach the quarterback. He is a superb chase guy who moves easily coming from the backside. Despite giving up considerable bulk to offensive linemen, he has the strength to get a good push off blocks, redirect and string plays out. He is relentless in pursuit and does a nice job of staying low in his pads to deliver crunching tackles on the move. Demarcus is instinctive and plays with good field vision. Ware shows nice flexibility to leverage at the point of attack and has the lateral slide to avoid blocks on the move. He is a solid wrap-up tackler who can punish runners with his hitting ability. He shows good hand usage and extension to stave off the blockers trying to get into his chest, but if they lock on, he can be neutralized. He will then try to overcompensate, taking wrong angles to the ball or fail to control his momentum by getting too far upfield to make the play. Ware has a very strong hand punch and good arm extension. He is strong at the point and knows how to squeeze and leverage blockers. He has raw pass rush technique and needs to develop better counter moves, as he relies mostly on his sudden burst to make plays in the backfield. He lacks polish in his backpedal and is not experienced in dropping back while in man coverage. Demarcus knows how to use his hands to reroute tight ends and backs in the short area, but will bite on play action and eyes the quarterback too long when having to play in zone coverage. He is better suited playing in space and on the move. He will make a lot of his plays coming from the backside, but when he gets too high in his stance, he will struggle to disengage trying to shoot the inside gaps. He looks more like a Jason Taylor clone, as he is best working off the edge. Some liken him to Baltimore's Terrell Suggs, but from film review, I do not think that he has the pass coverage ability to drop back and handle zone assignments (best when making tackles in front of him). Still, his explosion and desire to make the play will make this guy one that will have to be accounted for on the field. He will need to add bulk in order to remain a down lineman, but his frame may be at maximum growth potential. If he moves to linebacker, he is better suited to operate as a weak-side rush linebacker in a 3-4 alignment in order to get value from him immediately. Aldon Smith......... Pass rush: Great length and upper-body development with room to grow and become a top-notch pass rusher. When given the green light to attack the passer, he is able to turn the corner or quickly go outside-in to get a more direct path to the QB. Uses strength to get movement in his bull rush; able to release with his hands to harass a scrambling passer. Moves inside to a three-technique spot on some plays to take advantage of his quickness, as well as his height, to disrupt passing lanes (seven pass breakups in 2009-2010). Jumps over and uses his hands to beat cut blocks. Run defense: Potentially strong edge run defender as 4-3 end or 3-4 linebacker. Stays balanced out of his stance, extends his arms to keep distance, able to shed to get to the ball on either side of the block. Good backfield awareness. Willing to lower his shoulder and stand his ground against pulling guards and moving tight ends. Gets down the line while engaged to be involved on inside runs. Beats reach blocks to get into the backfield. Explosion: Still more potential than practice as a pure outside pass rusher, but shows glimpses of explosive ability on the edge. Pops his man with big swipes to get past blockers. Brings a punch in his bull rush, sometimes knocking back even strong college tackles. Strength: Plays stronger than his height/weight numbers indicate. Does not give up room when holding the line. Violent with his hands, able to push aside blockers when rushing the passer or shedding to chase ballcarriers. Still requires time in pro strength and conditioning to gain 15-20 pounds before becoming a three-down player as a 4-3 defensive end. Tackling: Uses his long, strong arms to wrap up quarterbacks and ballcarriers in the backfield; can chop down hard to force fumbles. Speedy chase tackler who closes well for his size due to that length, hustle, and straight-line speed. Misses tackles when leaving his feet early or short-arming (ducking his head and not fully extending.) Intangibles: Right fibula fractured against San Diego State in October 2010; fracture was high enough above ankle and below the knee so it could heal on its own without surgery. Returned just three weeks later and played hurt for the rest of the season. Only a redshirt sophomore, which is a positive given his upside, but some might view as negative given his relative lack of experience. Compares to: Jarvis Moss, Raiders -- Scouts figured Moss' length and speed off the edge would be difficult for offensive tackles to handle, and despite his uneven career to date, will value Smith's similar build because of the importance of pass rushers.

Jun 2, 2011 at 12:56 PM

#136

Wodwo
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Vic Fangio.

Dome Patrol.

That is all.

Jun 2, 2011 at 3:32 PM

#137

dtg_9er
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Originally posted by Wodwo:
Vic Fangio.

Dome Patrol.

That is all.

Didn't recall their nickname but what a great LB group! Good memories.

Jun 3, 2011 at 8:05 AM

#138

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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by susweel:
Watched some more film on him and I haven't seen him beat anybody with an outside pass rush move. Is he quick enough to do that ? and also isnt that kind of important for a guy who plays on the outside ?

I t think he's quick enough. the problem is he's tall and plays tall. He has to learn how to get lower and dip that inside shoulder when coming from the outside. This is what he needs to learn and be coached up on. That's why he's a project b/c nobody is sure how he will take to being coached up on a very critical part of his game. Time will tell.

This was the main reason I liked Quinn over Smith. Quinn gets low and can stay low around the corner but Smith tends to stand up and use his strength to waltz around the OLinemen.

same here

With that reach, if he doesn't work out as a pass rusher we can move him to safety!

Jun 3, 2011 at 9:29 AM

#139

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Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by susweel:
Watched some more film on him and I haven't seen him beat anybody with an outside pass rush move. Is he quick enough to do that ? and also isnt that kind of important for a guy who plays on the outside ?

I t think he's quick enough. the problem is he's tall and plays tall. He has to learn how to get lower and dip that inside shoulder when coming from the outside. This is what he needs to learn and be coached up on. That's why he's a project b/c nobody is sure how he will take to being coached up on a very critical part of his game. Time will tell.

This was the main reason I liked Quinn over Smith. Quinn gets low and can stay low around the corner but Smith tends to stand up and use his strength to waltz around the OLinemen.

same here

With that reach, if he doesn't work out as a pass rusher we can move him to safety!

at above that can easily be taught quibb has better mechanics but smith has things which is hard to teach like footwork and use of arms

also his long arms would help him a lot also i think he has better instincs than quinn

Jun 5, 2011 at 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by susweel:
Watched some more film on him and I haven't seen him beat anybody with an outside pass rush move. Is he quick enough to do that ? and also isnt that kind of important for a guy who plays on the outside ?

I t think he's quick enough. the problem is he's tall and plays tall. He has to learn how to get lower and dip that inside shoulder when coming from the outside. This is what he needs to learn and be coached up on. That's why he's a project b/c nobody is sure how he will take to being coached up on a very critical part of his game. Time will tell.

This was the main reason I liked Quinn over Smith. Quinn gets low and can stay low around the corner but Smith tends to stand up and use his strength to waltz around the OLinemen.

same here

With that reach, if he doesn't work out as a pass rusher we can move him to safety!

Think Lawson would be better then Goldson? Lol i move him to SS in madden and Taylor to FS! DESTORY!

[ Edited by TheGoldDiggerrrr on Jun 5, 2011 at 22:25:08 ]