Solidg2000/wildturkey 2011 quick draft

FA QB? and CB?

I don't like Fairley with our #7, but it continues to look like either he or Quinn will be viable selections there. The problem is he doesn't have a real position on our defense. He could be a penetrating 3-4 DE, and potentially move Soapaga to NT. But that's far from a team need.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
FA QB? and CB?

I don't like Fairley with our #7, but it continues to look like either he or Quinn will be viable selections there. The problem is he doesn't have a real position on our defense. He could be a penetrating 3-4 DE, and potentially move Soapaga to NT. But that's far from a team need.

I have us taking 2 CBs and 1 QB

Don't think Pat Devlin will be drafted, his off-season has been a mess.

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
FA QB? and CB?

I don't like Fairley with our #7, but it continues to look like either he or Quinn will be viable selections there. The problem is he doesn't have a real position on our defense. He could be a penetrating 3-4 DE, and potentially move Soapaga to NT. But that's far from a team need.

I have us taking 2 CBs and 1 QB

Picks after the 3rd round very rarely make an impact for a few years, if at all. Unless we draft CB and QB high, we can assume that those positions require FA signings.

I also don't think Devlin will amount to much of anything. I rank him well below: Ponder, Kaepernick, Mallett, Locker, Dalton, and Stanzi. In my eyes, he's on the same playing field as Mcleroy and Yates.

If your ultimate goal is to well-placed to secure Luck or Barkley in next years' draft, then I at least understand your reasoning.

Yeah waiting to draft a qb that late is a major fail. And I like Houston and Fairley but I don't see either as a great fit for a 3-4.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Don't think Pat Devlin will be drafted, his off-season has been a mess.

Really bad off-season, but the numbers he has will still likely get him selected late in the 6th or 7th. At that point, the risk of taking a "turd" so to speak is virtually negated.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yeah waiting to draft a qb that late is a major fail. And I like Houston and Fairley but I don't see either as a great fit for a 3-4.

I don't see Fairley fitting well in a 3-4, but to say Houston isn't a great fit is hilarious. He played in a 3-4 in Georgia and we'd be lucky to select him in the 2nd round. My guess is that he doesn't get past the Jets in the 1st round.

Fairley is a beat only when he wants to be...as in right before declaring for the NFL draft.

I'd rather pass.

You drafted for good needs but we are getting screwed at the QB spot. Rounds 1-3 will more than likely be an OLB, a QB and another good Defensive player that can impact right away. I looked at a lot of similar guys but yeah, Fairley and Houston are good but don't necessarily fit our team IMO. I love Kendrick Ellis but I think he will go in the 2nd. And Owen M. i think will go sooner because he can instantly play special teams or learn the FB position or whatever D they want him to play. He may just be a good football player to have on your team and how many picks after round 4 or 5 actually make the team.

No QB in this years draft is going to make an instant upgrade, or get real significant anything (aside from possibly Cam Newton)
Being that no players can be traded this teagbecause of the lock out I would believe we would trade a pick next year for a guy this year. But none the less, I see us pushing for Carson Palmer and Kolb to a lesser extent.
Devlins numbers don't lie though. Even on the field he is a smart football player and could fight through this bad draft season

How doesn't Fairley project as a DE? He is quick enough and strong enough and the right size! He also used to double teams... Whats the downside?

Originally posted by solidg2000:
How doesn't Fairley project as a DE? He is quick enough and strong enough and the right size! He also used to double teams... Whats the downside?

I agree with you on Fairley. A Justin Smith clone on the other side will help him create havoc with pressure on every down not just passing downs. Today's teams don't wait for passing downs to pass.

As for Houston, I think Fangio would make him fit. But without the CBA in place by the draft, the safer route in the 2nd round would be a CB who can start immediately.

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yeah waiting to draft a qb that late is a major fail. And I like Houston and Fairley but I don't see either as a great fit for a 3-4.

I don't see Fairley fitting well in a 3-4, but to say Houston isn't a great fit is hilarious. He played in a 3-4 in Georgia and we'd be lucky to select him in the 2nd round. My guess is that he doesn't get past the Jets in the 1st round.

I just see him as a better fit for the 4-3 DE regardless of the system he ran in college.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yeah waiting to draft a qb that late is a major fail. And I like Houston and Fairley but I don't see either as a great fit for a 3-4.

I don't see Fairley fitting well in a 3-4, but to say Houston isn't a great fit is hilarious. He played in a 3-4 in Georgia and we'd be lucky to select him in the 2nd round. My guess is that he doesn't get past the Jets in the 1st round.

I just see him as a better fit for the 4-3 DE regardless of the system he ran in college.

If he succeeded playing the position in college, then the transition to the pros would be easier instead of getting a 4-3 end in college and hoping they make a smooth transition.