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Jan 9, 2011 at 3:19 PM
- communist
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do u really think that floyd would be there with our 2nd-rounder?
Jan 9, 2011 at 3:24 PM
- Shifty
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Originally posted by communist:
do u really think that floyd would be there with our 2nd-rounder?
Did people think DeSean Jackson would have been there?
Jan 9, 2011 at 3:26 PM
- Shifty
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
49ers lack a serious pass-rusher.
We can't fix every single problem on the team in one offseason. Guys like Wimbley, LaBoy, Brooks or whoever else, are sufficient for the next season.
Jan 9, 2011 at 3:29 PM
- Hawaii49erfan
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like wimbley on our team
let manny and franklin walk IMO
let manny and franklin walk IMO
[ Edited by Hawaii49erfan on Jan 9, 2011 at 3:30 PM ]
Jan 9, 2011 at 3:42 PM
- TheGoldenState
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I like it, we add a legit passrusher in Wimbley, a future lockdown CB (hopefully) in Prince Amukamara and much needed speed with Fabian Washington
[ Edited by TheGoldenState on Jan 9, 2011 at 3:43 PM ]
Jan 9, 2011 at 3:42 PM
- strickac
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I'd be happy with this. I think Hasselbeck is the ideal stop-gap while the rookie develops, whoever that is.
Our secondary is trash and the obvious weak point on defense. Wimbley is an effective rusher and when Manusky sent the blitz, it was usually successful. The problem was that our secondary was so shaky that he had use our LBs heavily in coverage. We played a "bend, but don't break" style. I'm skeptical on Prince, but he'd fill a huge void. Vic's defense is more of an attacking style, so we're going to need some CBs that can be trusted.
Our secondary is trash and the obvious weak point on defense. Wimbley is an effective rusher and when Manusky sent the blitz, it was usually successful. The problem was that our secondary was so shaky that he had use our LBs heavily in coverage. We played a "bend, but don't break" style. I'm skeptical on Prince, but he'd fill a huge void. Vic's defense is more of an attacking style, so we're going to need some CBs that can be trusted.
Jan 9, 2011 at 3:46 PM
- ChaunceyGardner
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I like it and it is realistic. I'll take Dalton over Stanzi any day.
Jan 9, 2011 at 3:49 PM
- toeknee
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I don't want Clements on this team anymore.
Jan 9, 2011 at 3:50 PM
- Shifty
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by Kalen49ers:Originally posted by NinerGM:
49ers lack a serious pass-rusher.
We can't fix every single problem on the team in one offseason. Guys like Wimbley, LaBoy, Brooks or whoever else, are sufficient for the next season.
I guess we just agree to disagree. I think our pass-rush is much worse than our secondary since we don't have one (pass-rush). That's just it, our pass-rush is not sufficient - it doesn't exist. At all. It's the same logic people have about the LOS with WR - get better WRs and keep terrible OL guys.
I don't think the pass rush is as bad as you make it out to be. Add in a guy like Wimbley who is a solid pass rusher himself, and its gonna be at least mediocre. Again we can't fix everything at once.
Jan 9, 2011 at 3:55 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by Kalen49ers:Originally posted by NinerGM:
49ers lack a serious pass-rusher.
We can't fix every single problem on the team in one offseason. Guys like Wimbley, LaBoy, Brooks or whoever else, are sufficient for the next season.
I think our pass-rush is much worse than our secondary since we don't have one (pass-rush). That's just it, our pass-rush is not sufficient - it doesn't exist. At all. It's the same logic people have about the LOS with WR - get better WRs and keep terrible OL guys.
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The game is won at the LOS - both offensively and defensively - if you cannot control the LOS you will lose. It doesn't matter who is on the corner or who is the QB, if you can't control the LOS, you lose!
IMO, they should accept the fact they are going to get very mediocre QB play this season no matter who they bring in (the choices are all bad) and just use the 1st for the best pass rusher that roughly fits the value chart. Also, use a later pick for another prospect. You can never have enough pass rushers.
Jan 9, 2011 at 3:59 PM
- RollinWith21n52
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QB not addressed still
Jan 9, 2011 at 4:01 PM
- strickac
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Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
QB not addressed still
A veteran and a rookie isn't enough?
Jan 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM
- OnTheClock
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Solid all around. Thumbs up, Kalen. Although I am skeptical Floyd will make it to the 2nd -- such a great, big-bodied, physical receiver who was tremendously productive despite playing with different QB's.
Jan 9, 2011 at 4:18 PM
- communist
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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:but we have to begin at the pass-rush...it would be not the first time that someone thinks that guys like brooks and co. are enough...heard the same last year and look what came out.Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by Kalen49ers:Originally posted by NinerGM:
49ers lack a serious pass-rusher.
We can't fix every single problem on the team in one offseason. Guys like Wimbley, LaBoy, Brooks or whoever else, are sufficient for the next season.
I guess we just agree to disagree. I think our pass-rush is much worse than our secondary since we don't have one (pass-rush). That's just it, our pass-rush is not sufficient - it doesn't exist. At all. It's the same logic people have about the LOS with WR - get better WRs and keep terrible OL guys.
I don't think the pass rush is as bad as you make it out to be. Add in a guy like Wimbley who is a solid pass rusher himself, and its gonna be at least mediocre. Again we can't fix everything at once.
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