Something I have always wondered...

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by kidash:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Being drafted in the top 7 rounds = Money (millions if in the first round, esp. signing bonus guaranteed). Undrafted means low rookie salary (if I recall, $150,000 to $200,000) and none of it guaranteed if said player don't make the roster.

It's kind of a set pay scale agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA Union.

- 98

That's true...if you're a typical undrafted rookie.

But if you're a surefire #1 pick and you pull this stunt, suddenly you have your pick of any team willing to sign you, and they'll most likely be paying you what you would have made anyways.

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Doesn't work that way. In that case he'd be added to the Supplimental Draft and teams would have the option to select the player and give up a pick from next year.

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Doesn't work that way. In that case he'd be added to the Supplimental Draft and teams would have the option to select the player and give up a pick from next year.

What's the statute of limitations on that? Could he be signed as a free agent after the supplemental draft? The next season? 5 seasons later?

Surely there has been some college player who has walked away from football, only to change his mind and be signed as a free agent without entering the draft.

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Doesn't work that way. In that case he'd be added to the Supplimental Draft and teams would have the option to select the player and give up a pick from next year.

What's the statute of limitations on that? Could he be signed as a free agent after the supplemental draft? The next season? 5 seasons later?

Surely there has been some college player who has walked away from football, only to change his mind and be signed as a free agent without entering the draft.

Originally posted by kidash:

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Doesn't work that way. In that case he'd be added to the Supplimental Draft and teams would have the option to select the player and give up a pick from next year.

What's the statute of limitations on that? Could he be signed as a free agent after the supplemental draft? The next season? 5 seasons later?

Surely there has been some college player who has walked away from football, only to change his mind and be signed as a free agent without entering the draft.

Kurt Warner comes to mind. But when he as signed with the Rams, he played for a minimal pay considering he was "undrafted." It wasn't until he won games and his initial contract was up that he got paid like the way he played.

- 98

Originally posted by kidash:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Being drafted in the top 7 rounds = Money (millions if in the first round, esp. signing bonus guaranteed). Undrafted means low rookie salary (if I recall, $150,000 to $200,000) and none of it guaranteed if said player don't make the roster.

It's kind of a set pay scale agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA Union.

- 98

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Doesn't work that way. In that case he'd be added to the Supplimental Draft and teams would have the option to select the player and give up a pick from next year.

What's the statute of limitations on that? Could he be signed as a free agent after the supplemental draft? The next season? 5 seasons later?

Surely there has been some college player who has walked away from football, only to change his mind and be signed as a free agent without entering the draft.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Doesn't work that way. In that case he'd be added to the Supplimental Draft and teams would have the option to select the player and give up a pick from next year.

What's the statute of limitations on that? Could he be signed as a free agent after the supplemental draft? The next season? 5 seasons later?

Surely there has been some college player who has walked away from football, only to change his mind and be signed as a free agent without entering the draft.

I can't think of one. It just doesn't work that way. You have to enter the draft and be selected into the NFL. If not selected then you have options. On top of that Luck or anybody would be losing out on millions and millions but not entering the draft.

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by kidash:

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Doesn't work that way. In that case he'd be added to the Supplimental Draft and teams would have the option to select the player and give up a pick from next year.

What's the statute of limitations on that? Could he be signed as a free agent after the supplemental draft? The next season? 5 seasons later?

Surely there has been some college player who has walked away from football, only to change his mind and be signed as a free agent without entering the draft.

Kurt Warner comes to mind. But when he as signed with the Rams, he played for a minimal pay considering he was "undrafted." It wasn't until he won games and his initial contract was up that he got paid like the way he played.

- 98

Well yeah, but a team can pay any free agent anything they want. We could pay some scrub free agent $100 mil if we really felt like it.

I mean, if Luck sat out a season, I'd still sign him as a free agent for $50 mil.

Originally posted by NumberOneFan:

Originally posted by kidash:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Being drafted in the top 7 rounds = Money (millions if in the first round, esp. signing bonus guaranteed). Undrafted means low rookie salary (if I recall, $150,000 to $200,000) and none of it guaranteed if said player don't make the roster.

It's kind of a set pay scale agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA Union.

- 98

Well, does the team have to sign them to the low pay scale? Can't the team decide, hmmm, I'll give you the $40-80 mil you wanted?

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Doesn't work that way. In that case he'd be added to the Supplimental Draft and teams would have the option to select the player and give up a pick from next year.

What's the statute of limitations on that? Could he be signed as a free agent after the supplemental draft? The next season? 5 seasons later?

Surely there has been some college player who has walked away from football, only to change his mind and be signed as a free agent without entering the draft.

I can't think of one. It just doesn't work that way. You have to enter the draft and be selected into the NFL. If not selected then you have options. On top of that Luck or anybody would be losing out on millions and millions but not entering the draft.

Again, there has to be a statute of limitations. I don't think if somebody decided to come back to football at 30 that they'd have to enter the draft.

Originally posted by kidash:

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by kidash:

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Doesn't work that way. In that case he'd be added to the Supplimental Draft and teams would have the option to select the player and give up a pick from next year.

What's the statute of limitations on that? Could he be signed as a free agent after the supplemental draft? The next season? 5 seasons later?

Surely there has been some college player who has walked away from football, only to change his mind and be signed as a free agent without entering the draft.

Kurt Warner comes to mind. But when he as signed with the Rams, he played for a minimal pay considering he was "undrafted." It wasn't until he won games and his initial contract was up that he got paid like the way he played.

- 98

Well yeah, but a team can pay any free agent anything they want. We could pay some scrub free agent $100 mil if we really felt like it.

I mean, if Luck sat out a season, I'd still sign him as a free agent for $50 mil.

IF Luck sat out a season, he'd have to declare eligibility next year in order to enter the draft. He still needs to pass that in order to play for the NFL.

The difference with Warner was that he declared for the draft and never got picked. He played Arena Football before signing with the Rams, having passed his draft requirement long ago.

- 98

Originally posted by Amir_Mamu:

Originally posted by kidash:

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by kidash:

Originally posted by statman:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by statman:
I don't understand why everyone be hatin', it's a good question.

Originally posted by kidash:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft

http://www.ehow.com/about_4760063_nfl-draft-rules-regulations.html

Basically, a player has to declare for the draft in order to get picked. If he does declare, he has to pass all rounds of the draft in order to be considered "undrafted" and then can sign on with any team willing to sign him to an offer.

- 98

So what happens if Andrew Luck was to say, "I've decided to quit football, and drop out of college *wink wink* I won't be entering the draft, goodbye everybody". Then after the draft, he says "Changed my mind! Harbaugh, would you like to sign me as a free agent to the tune of our totally-not-previously-agreed-upon $80 mil?"

I mean, does EVERYBODY have to enter the draft? If I showed up randomly to Belichick's house and impressed him with my mad skills, couldn't he sign me as a free agent? And I was never in the draft.

Doesn't work that way. In that case he'd be added to the Supplimental Draft and teams would have the option to select the player and give up a pick from next year.

What's the statute of limitations on that? Could he be signed as a free agent after the supplemental draft? The next season? 5 seasons later?

Surely there has been some college player who has walked away from football, only to change his mind and be signed as a free agent without entering the draft.

Kurt Warner comes to mind. But when he as signed with the Rams, he played for a minimal pay considering he was "undrafted." It wasn't until he won games and his initial contract was up that he got paid like the way he played.

- 98

Well yeah, but a team can pay any free agent anything they want. We could pay some scrub free agent $100 mil if we really felt like it.

I mean, if Luck sat out a season, I'd still sign him as a free agent for $50 mil.

IF Luck sat out a season, he'd have to declare eligibility next year in order to enter the draft. He still needs to pass that in order to play for the NFL.

The difference with Warner was that he declared for the draft and never got picked. He played Arena Football before signing with the Rams, having passed his draft requirement long ago.

- 98

This. Luck has to declare first, either this year or 10 years from now. If he declares and no one drafts him, then he is able to sign with anyone. So, if he decides to "sit out" and enter the draft next year, someone will still surely take a chance on him.