Patrick's 2010 NFL Mock draft 3.2 (first 2 rd mock + player rankings)

Nice draft. Few things I didn't agree with. One I just don't see Bulaga as the 6th best player in this draft. I can't see Buffalo passing on Davis for Spiller, I can't see the Broncos taking Mcclain over Dan Williams. and I don't understand why the Steelers would draft Dez Bryant when they have 3 play makers at WR already.

Not bad but this draft is very CB rich. It would be stupid to pass up guys like Graham or Iupati in the first when a corner similar to Wilson could be available in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Nice draft. Few things I didn't agree with. One I just don't see Bulaga as the 6th best player in this draft. I can't see Buffalo passing on Davis for Spiller, I can't see the Broncos taking Mcclain over Dan Williams. and I don't understand why the Steelers would draft Dez Bryant when they have 3 play makers at WR already.

The reason why I think Buffalo would pass on Davis is that they already had some trouble with a OT (Jason Peters) who had some weight and character issues and they got rid of him. A lot of people (including myself) compare Davis to Peters. I almost gurantee you Denver takes McClain. They cut Andre Davis and they signed Jamaal Williams who Denver feels can get 2 years out of at NT. As far as the Steelers taking Dez Bryant, they usually go best player on the board and as far as 3 playmakers at WR.... Hines Ward is getting up in there in age, Santonio Holmes is good but not a real #1 IMO and who is the third playmaker at WR? Mike Wallace? He is a nice #3 but he is no Dez Bryant who is a potential #1 WR in the NFL.


Thanks for the feedback

Originally posted by genus49:
Not bad but this draft is very CB rich. It would be stupid to pass up guys like Graham or Iupati in the first when a corner similar to Wilson could be available in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

I agree with you and in my dream 49ers draft we would get C.J Spiller or Trent Williams at 13 and either Graham or Wilson at 17 and then if we take Graham at 17 we get a corner like Patrick Robinson, Parrish Cox or a kid I like a lot, Brandon Ghee from Wake Forest. Of course if we do not get an OT in the 1st rd we certainly have to go for an OT in the 2nd rd and I like Saffold and Veldheer. I like Jason Fox but he is a pure LT. Im not that crazy about Ducassee who is also more of a LT.

My dream 49ers draft scenario:

C.J Spiller or Trent Williams at 13

Brandon Graham or Kyle Wilson at 17


2nd rd: If we don't take an OT in the 1st rd...Saffold or Veldheer. If we do take an OT in the 1st rd and don't take a corner, I like Patrick Robinson, Brandon Ghee and Parrish Cox. If we do take a corner in the 1st than I like Koa Misi, Jahvid Best or Jerry Hughes as potential 2nd rd picks.

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Nice draft. Few things I didn't agree with. One I just don't see Bulaga as the 6th best player in this draft. I can't see Buffalo passing on Davis for Spiller, I can't see the Broncos taking Mcclain over Dan Williams. and I don't understand why the Steelers would draft Dez Bryant when they have 3 play makers at WR already.

The reason why I think Buffalo would pass on Davis is that they already had some trouble with a OT (Jason Peters) who had some weight and character issues and they got rid of him. A lot of people (including myself) compare Davis to Peters. I almost gurantee you Denver takes McClain. They cut Andre Davis and they signed Jamaal Williams who Denver feels can get 2 years out of at NT. As far as the Steelers taking Dez Bryant, they usually go best player on the board and as far as 3 playmakers at WR.... Hines Ward is getting up in there in age, Santonio Holmes is good but not a real #1 IMO and who is the third playmaker at WR? Mike Wallace? He is a nice #3 but he is no Dez Bryant who is a potential #1 WR in the NFL.


Thanks for the feedback

What character issues does Peters have? Besides holding b/c he wanted to get paid what's he's worth I've never heard anything bad about him. He is a top tier OT in this league and they are paying the price for trading him. I just don't buy that theory at all. And Jamal Williams is about to be on his 12th or 13th season. They might get 2 years out of him. Plus he's coming off injury. Finding a top NT is much more difficult and is much higher value at this pick, than taking a slow inside backer. And Pittsburgh's run game was horrible. You really think they passing on Iupati to take a WR? Imo that just makes no sense. Hines Ward is still a good WR. Holmes makes huge plays. And Mike Wallace made more than a handful of great plays as the 3rd WR, and has major speed. Bryant wouldn't start or get considerable time over any of them.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Nice draft. Few things I didn't agree with. One I just don't see Bulaga as the 6th best player in this draft. I can't see Buffalo passing on Davis for Spiller, I can't see the Broncos taking Mcclain over Dan Williams. and I don't understand why the Steelers would draft Dez Bryant when they have 3 play makers at WR already.

The reason why I think Buffalo would pass on Davis is that they already had some trouble with a OT (Jason Peters) who had some weight and character issues and they got rid of him. A lot of people (including myself) compare Davis to Peters. I almost gurantee you Denver takes McClain. They cut Andre Davis and they signed Jamaal Williams who Denver feels can get 2 years out of at NT. As far as the Steelers taking Dez Bryant, they usually go best player on the board and as far as 3 playmakers at WR.... Hines Ward is getting up in there in age, Santonio Holmes is good but not a real #1 IMO and who is the third playmaker at WR? Mike Wallace? He is a nice #3 but he is no Dez Bryant who is a potential #1 WR in the NFL.


Thanks for the feedback

What character issues does Peters have? Besides holding b/c he wanted to get paid what's he's worth I've never heard anything bad about him. He is a top tier OT in this league and they are paying the price for trading him. I just don't buy that theory at all. And Jamal Williams is about to be on his 12th or 13th season. They might get 2 years out of him. Plus he's coming off injury. Finding a top NT is much more difficult and is much higher value at this pick, than taking a slow inside backer. And Pittsburgh's run game was horrible. You really think they passing on Iupati to take a WR? Imo that just makes no sense. Hines Ward is still a good WR. Holmes makes huge plays. And Mike Wallace made more than a handful of great plays as the 3rd WR, and has major speed. Bryant wouldn't start or get considerable time over any of them.

He had weight issues in Buffalo and his play was inconsistent. His last year in Buff he milked it.

it will be interesting to see just how far eric berry may drop. could he drop to 13? i believe kyle wilson would be a reach at 17. i think brandon graham would be a much better pick as would sergio kindle or even earl thomas. overall nice job though. interesting u have mccoy and bradford rated so low, do you hate oklahoma?

Originally posted by KD49ers:
it will be interesting to see just how far eric berry may drop. could he drop to 13? i believe kyle wilson would be a reach at 17. i think brandon graham would be a much better pick as would sergio kindle or even earl thomas. overall nice job though. interesting u have mccoy and bradford rated so low, do you hate oklahoma?

I do think Eric Berry could drop on draft day which IMO a lot of teams would be making a big mistake passing on him. I don't think he would get past Jacksonville at 10, though if slips past Cleveland at 7 and Oakland at 8, I could see us moving up to 9 and getting him as Buffalo needs/wants all the picks they can get and they probably would not take Berry.

Do I hate Oklahoma football? Nah, have no feelings towards them actually. I like Trent Williams a lot and I think Gresham will be a pro bowl TE. As far as Bradford and McCoy go; Sam Bradford played in a very QB friendly offense with two NFL starting tackles protecting him and he rarely got touched. Plus he is coming of a pretty serious shoulder injury. I really think the Rams are going to make a big mistake taking him #1 overall but im all for it since their in our division. I think McCoy will be a very good NFL DT but im not sure he will a pro bowl DT. He isn't all that big and his rep numbers weren't that great plus while he was at OU, he was never really dominant.

Kyle Wilson is not a reach at 17. He will be a very good NFL starting cornerback and punt returner if the team thar drafts him decides to use him as a PR.

no way bills take spiller at 9 with so many other bigger needs. gerhart to new orleans? that would be interesting, payton would find a lot of ways to use him. i like toby gerhart, i think he will be a good nfl player.

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Nice draft. Few things I didn't agree with. One I just don't see Bulaga as the 6th best player in this draft. I can't see Buffalo passing on Davis for Spiller, I can't see the Broncos taking Mcclain over Dan Williams. and I don't understand why the Steelers would draft Dez Bryant when they have 3 play makers at WR already.

The reason why I think Buffalo would pass on Davis is that they already had some trouble with a OT (Jason Peters) who had some weight and character issues and they got rid of him. A lot of people (including myself) compare Davis to Peters. I almost gurantee you Denver takes McClain. They cut Andre Davis and they signed Jamaal Williams who Denver feels can get 2 years out of at NT. As far as the Steelers taking Dez Bryant, they usually go best player on the board and as far as 3 playmakers at WR.... Hines Ward is getting up in there in age, Santonio Holmes is good but not a real #1 IMO and who is the third playmaker at WR? Mike Wallace? He is a nice #3 but he is no Dez Bryant who is a potential #1 WR in the NFL.


Thanks for the feedback

What character issues does Peters have? Besides holding b/c he wanted to get paid what's he's worth I've never heard anything bad about him. He is a top tier OT in this league and they are paying the price for trading him. I just don't buy that theory at all. And Jamal Williams is about to be on his 12th or 13th season. They might get 2 years out of him. Plus he's coming off injury. Finding a top NT is much more difficult and is much higher value at this pick, than taking a slow inside backer. And Pittsburgh's run game was horrible. You really think they passing on Iupati to take a WR? Imo that just makes no sense. Hines Ward is still a good WR. Holmes makes huge plays. And Mike Wallace made more than a handful of great plays as the 3rd WR, and has major speed. Bryant wouldn't start or get considerable time over any of them.

He had weight issues in Buffalo and his play was inconsistent. His last year in Buff he milked it.

Naw he was off b/c he missed camp and a fews games. Peters is a top flight OT in this league. Plenty of players have weight problems but the guy doesn't have any character issues that I've ever heard of.

Originally posted by PatrickJira411:

Originally posted by genus49:
Not bad but this draft is very CB rich. It would be stupid to pass up guys like Graham or Iupati in the first when a corner similar to Wilson could be available in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

I agree with you and in my dream 49ers draft we would get C.J Spiller or Trent Williams at 13 and either Graham or Wilson at 17 and then if we take Graham at 17 we get a corner like Patrick Robinson, Parrish Cox or a kid I like a lot, Brandon Ghee from Wake Forest. Of course if we do not get an OT in the 1st rd we certainly have to go for an OT in the 2nd rd and I like Saffold and Veldheer. I like Jason Fox but he is a pure LT. Im not that crazy about Ducassee who is also more of a LT.

I'm in total agreement with this. Problem is I see no way they can get Safford in the 2nd. I think he will be gone by then. I really like Ghee also. I was thinking that McCourty would be there but he has risen up to a late 1st. I think Fox would've been a 1st rounder if not for the injury. The thing will be is are they willing to move Staley to the RT if they end up with one of these strictly LT prospects. Or would they just work that prospect in at Rt regardless.

who the hell is kyle wilson ? dude came outta nowhere from the mid 20's/2nd round i guess ?

eh, A for effort.

I've seen a # of mocks that have Okung as the 2nd drafted OT when he was the 1st for the longest. Whats with the change now? I thought he had an impressive combine.