Ok so his ball skills are pretty much zero, but then again Michael Lewis isn't exactly the greatest ballhawk either. Count me as a believer that Goldson can be our guy at FS for the future, which means we could use someone to take over at SS.
Where is his value now? Mid first late first? 2nd?
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Would Taylor Mays really be so bad?
Jan 26, 2010 at 7:48 AM
- znk916
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Jan 26, 2010 at 7:49 AM
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I dont want a SS with 0 ball skills in the first.
Jan 26, 2010 at 7:54 AM
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Oh and I made this post because of the incident with him leveling a receiver in drills yesterday when he wasn't supposed to. You can call that just plain dumb, but as far as football goes, just like how coaches love 'nasty' linemen who get in an extra shove after the whistle is blown, there's definitely an appeal to having a guy who is looking to destroy people 24/7.
[ Edited by znk916 on Jan 26, 2010 at 7:54 AM ]
Jan 26, 2010 at 7:59 AM
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No he wouldn't be terrible to have on the team. He's just not a 1st round prospect. For a safety to grade that high, he needs to be exceptional in every way, a difference maker, forcing turnovers is huge. You can get S like him in later rounds.
Jan 26, 2010 at 8:06 AM
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Originally posted by TX9R:
No he wouldn't be terrible to have on the team. He's just not a 1st round prospect. For a safety to grade that high, he needs to be exceptional in every way, a difference maker, forcing turnovers is huge. You can get S like him in later rounds.
I agree, yet I expect him to be a top 20 pick at least after the combine. The meteoric rise will be similar to V. Davis when he came out. A late first rounder top of second rounder who simply wowed the Combine to the point he was picked sixth by us.
Sure it took four years for him to get to where he is, but we didn't have an OC who used him properly until Raye. Therefore, I can see Mays doing the same.
He did have a very good Soph and Junior season, no? Or did he regress like this year? I remember him being a top pick as a Junior and would have been a top 15 pick. Now, he has a down year, but the skills and physicality are still there.
You guys really don't think he's worth a first, huh? I still see the SS/LB in him, but as a first rounder...his measurables are what are going to propel him into the mid first, IMO.
TX, I agree wholeheartedly about this S class...very deep indeed!
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Jan 26, 2010 at 9:41 AM
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Originally posted by TX9R:
No he wouldn't be terrible to have on the team. He's just not a 1st round prospect. For a safety to grade that high, he needs to be exceptional in every way, a difference maker, forcing turnovers is huge. You can get S like him in later rounds.
What he said........
Jan 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM
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Darnell Bing!
Jan 26, 2010 at 9:45 AM
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I remember last year everyone was talking about Taylor Mays (until he said he was coming back to school) and William Moore at SS and the big debate was Mays vs. Moore. I see them as similar players, so does anyone know how Moore did this year? I don't think he got a lot of playing time, is that because he sucked or they're just letting him develop?
Jan 26, 2010 at 9:52 AM
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Originally posted by Superbowl09:
I remember last year everyone was talking about Taylor Mays (until he said he was coming back to school) and William Moore at SS and the big debate was Mays vs. Moore. I see them as similar players, so does anyone know how Moore did this year? I don't think he got a lot of playing time, is that because he sucked or they're just letting him develop?
Injured most of the year, which was a concern coming out. Mays at least doesn't have that issue.
Jan 26, 2010 at 9:53 AM
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You don't take a guy in the first round because he's "not so bad."
Jan 26, 2010 at 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Superbowl09:
I remember last year everyone was talking about Taylor Mays (until he said he was coming back to school) and William Moore at SS and the big debate was Mays vs. Moore. I see them as similar players, so does anyone know how Moore did this year? I don't think he got a lot of playing time, is that because he sucked or they're just letting him develop?
So who is this years comparison for Mays? There is only one other SS who is as big as far as I can see.
How do Taylor Mays and Kam Chancellor compare? I'm guess by the lack of buzz that Chancellor isn't as good, but when comparing using a 1st RD pick on Mays, and a later RD pick on Chancellor, who is the better value?
Jan 26, 2010 at 10:14 AM
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My personal feeling is that there are 2 positions you don't take in the 1st unless they are just phenominal prospects with great college production: S and TE.
Jan 26, 2010 at 10:26 AM
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I am not all on board with drafting Mays in the 1st round to play SS.. I know lot's of people think that's the position he'll end up playing due to his lack of ball and coverage skills.
I am not so sure. He didn't play in the box at USC, he played the role of centerfielder. I think he is sort of enigmatic, he should produce more tahn he has given his size and speed.
I think for any team to use a mid 1st rounder on a safety, they should be gettting a well rounded, multi-faceted game changer. Not just a guy with great measurables.
I am not so sure. He didn't play in the box at USC, he played the role of centerfielder. I think he is sort of enigmatic, he should produce more tahn he has given his size and speed.
I think for any team to use a mid 1st rounder on a safety, they should be gettting a well rounded, multi-faceted game changer. Not just a guy with great measurables.
Jan 26, 2010 at 10:41 AM
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I guess I will be in the minority. I would be fine with Mays in the 1st. He has rare athletic skills and I think he could easily turn into a Adrian Wilson game changer.
Jan 26, 2010 at 10:43 AM
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Wait and see. Combine and the rest of Senior Bowl week.
I was disappointed with his USC career, but don't jump the gun on judging him.
I was disappointed with his USC career, but don't jump the gun on judging him.