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Who is the next Ware/Merriman/JHarrison/Dumervil?
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Oct 21, 2009 at 12:05 AM
- IdentityCrisis
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I think selvie is gonna be a monster. I know his production dropped off, but I think he has the motor to make it happen.
Oct 21, 2009 at 4:12 AM
- znk916
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I'm no scout, but I'm gonna go with Hughes. He looks the part and he's consistent.
Oct 21, 2009 at 11:57 AM
- RichmondPete
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Originally posted by GEEK:
Dumervil was a 4th round draft pick. We weren't the only ones to pass on him four times.
An undersized DE in the mold of Dwight Freeney doesn't guarantee 3-4 OLB pass rushing success. I never thought Dumervil would have this type of success behind a scrappy defensive line.
Nolan is a defensive genius. He just can't multitask as a HC/DC/GM/Fashion Model.
A defensive genius? This is the guy that thought we would have success running a base 4-2 against every team.
Oct 21, 2009 at 2:24 PM
- ninertico
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Since 2005, who are the leading WILL pass rushers? Then, compare their size and strength. What I am trying to get to is that it seems the taller, lankier prospects like Manny don't do well. Where as those like Woodly, do.
So who in this year's draft caters more toward Woodly than Manny.
Graham
Pierre-Paul
Hardy
Griffen
Who else?
Does Selvie, Hughes or Lang fit the bill?
What do you guys think?
So who in this year's draft caters more toward Woodly than Manny.
Graham
Pierre-Paul
Hardy
Griffen
Who else?
Does Selvie, Hughes or Lang fit the bill?
What do you guys think?
Oct 23, 2009 at 5:23 PM
- abowers1984
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Originally posted by ninertico:
Since 2005, who are the leading WILL pass rushers? Then, compare their size and strength. What I am trying to get to is that it seems the taller, lankier prospects like Manny don't do well. Where as those like Woodly, do.
So who in this year's draft caters more toward Woodly than Manny.
Graham
Pierre-Paul
Hardy
Griffen
Who else?
Does Selvie, Hughes or Lang fit the bill?
What do you guys think?
Hughes definately fits - he's listed at 6'3'' but that might be a bit of a stretch... Regardless of what his real height is though, the man plays with a very low center of gravity which enables him to quicly turn the corner on speed rushes or quickly redirect inside if he senses the OT is leaning...
There really is no doubt in my mind that this guy will be the most productive pass rusher at the next level, and I firmly believe that his impact will be made immediately.
Oct 23, 2009 at 10:48 PM
- m_brockalexander
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Originally posted by abowers1984:Originally posted by ninertico:
Since 2005, who are the leading WILL pass rushers? Then, compare their size and strength. What I am trying to get to is that it seems the taller, lankier prospects like Manny don't do well. Where as those like Woodly, do.
So who in this year's draft caters more toward Woodly than Manny.
Graham
Pierre-Paul
Hardy
Griffen
Who else?
Does Selvie, Hughes or Lang fit the bill?
What do you guys think?
Hughes definately fits - he's listed at 6'3'' but that might be a bit of a stretch... Regardless of what his real height is though, the man plays with a very low center of gravity which enables him to quicly turn the corner on speed rushes or quickly redirect inside if he senses the OT is leaning...
There really is no doubt in my mind that this guy will be the most productive pass rusher at the next level, and I firmly believe that his impact will be made immediately.
We can all watch him this weekend and see for ourselves. I for one will be watching closely.
Oct 28, 2009 at 7:03 PM
- prometheus
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After seeing Brandon Graham being mentioned on this forum I looked at his highlights and he is impressive. He popped an OT on a straight bull rush and the guy went backward about 3 yards. Even though we need a safety, I wonder if getting two guys like Jerry Hughes and Brandon Graham might not be a better choice. True it would be a bit of an overkill but we could live with lower round safeties with those guys on the defense. I then would get at least two free agent OL and two drafted OL. I think having that sort of team might be a bit odd in terms of balance but it could be the sort of jump it takes to bounce ahead of other teams. I think too we need to address runningbacks again but moreso for speed and some dbs though I think that is not a crying need. IMO the DL has enough depth and talent to be ok until some major injuries. We have guys like Balmer, RayMac and RJF. I think we should be in good shape. I sure hope we garner some tampering draft picks and if so we should be in very solid shape for the future. If Alex can play solid but below the great qbs, I think I would forego QB until about the fifth round. I would love to trade down until those guys (pass rush ) draft positions come up and gather some lower round picks.
Oct 29, 2009 at 11:23 AM
- tohara3
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Originally posted by m_brockalexander:Originally posted by abowers1984:Originally posted by ninertico:
Since 2005, who are the leading WILL pass rushers? Then, compare their size and strength. What I am trying to get to is that it seems the taller, lankier prospects like Manny don't do well. Where as those like Woodly, do.
So who in this year's draft caters more toward Woodly than Manny.
Graham
Pierre-Paul
Hardy
Griffen
Who else?
Does Selvie, Hughes or Lang fit the bill?
What do you guys think?
Hughes definately fits - he's listed at 6'3'' but that might be a bit of a stretch... Regardless of what his real height is though, the man plays with a very low center of gravity which enables him to quicly turn the corner on speed rushes or quickly redirect inside if he senses the OT is leaning...
There really is no doubt in my mind that this guy will be the most productive pass rusher at the next level, and I firmly believe that his impact will be made immediately.
We can all watch him this weekend and see for ourselves. I for one will be watching closely.
I want either Hughes or Graham for our pass rush.
Oct 29, 2009 at 12:05 PM
- Ninefan56
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Or perhaps both. We need pass rush and Oline, as much as possible.
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