Mock draft V2.0

Pass on Harmon, I have seen him struggle against the run in game. If we take a DT that high, he's gotta be a more complete player, not that Harmon sucks, but we need to shore up the run D and he is not good at that. Other than that, and a DB that I haven't checked out, I wouldn't be too mad with it.

Even though I have him in my prediction mock I don't think he is worth being picked that high. Hopefully Niners trade back if he is indeed a target.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Pass on Harmon, I have seen him struggle against the run in game. If we take a DT that high, he's gotta be a more complete player, not that Harmon sucks, but we need to shore up the run D and he is not good at that. Other than that, and a DB that I haven't checked out, I wouldn't be too mad with it.

I disagree with you that he struggles in the run game.

The 49ers start to rebuild and reinforce their roster with a pick in the trenches," write Yahoo! Draft analysts Nate Tice and Charles McDonald. "Harmon is equally adept at defending the run and pass, and can be asked to fill a variety of roles along the interior. He would be great in the 49ers' heavy use of twists and stunts, and he gives San Francisco a young player to start replenishing its recently tenacious front."

Harmon has the body type and ability to anchor against double teams and defend the run in the 49ers' Wide 9 defense. In addition, he has the athleticism to push the pocket and disrupt the quarterback. He's similar to two former Oregon defensive tackles who had lots of success on the 49ers -- DeForest Buckner and Arik Armstead.

I just see Harmon being a massive overreach at 11. Most mocks I've seen don't have him even coming into the picture until the early twenties. Even though he would be a good player for San Francisco in our wide 9 scheme I would not be happy if they reached that far at the 11th pick for Derek Harmon.

I like it. I'd prefer to go O line earlier (3rd round). But wouldn't hate the draft.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Pass on Harmon, I have seen him struggle against the run in game. If we take a DT that high, he's gotta be a more complete player, not that Harmon sucks, but we need to shore up the run D and he is not good at that. Other than that, and a DB that I haven't checked out, I wouldn't be too mad with it.

I disagree with you that he struggles in the run game.

The 49ers start to rebuild and reinforce their roster with a pick in the trenches," write Yahoo! Draft analysts Nate Tice and Charles McDonald. "Harmon is equally adept at defending the run and pass, and can be asked to fill a variety of roles along the interior. He would be great in the 49ers' heavy use of twists and stunts, and he gives San Francisco a young player to start replenishing its recently tenacious front."

Harmon has the body type and ability to anchor against double teams and defend the run in the 49ers' Wide 9 defense. In addition, he has the athleticism to push the pocket and disrupt the quarterback. He's similar to two former Oregon defensive tackles who had lots of success on the 49ers -- DeForest Buckner and Arik Armstead.

Not going by what anybody else has told me, just telling you what I have seen after watching more than half of his games. His gap discipline is not the greatest, that might be because they tell him to just get after the passer first and foremost. He's a beast of a man, but there are better players that fit our need in my opinion. I went and watched two more games today(Wisconsin and their CFP loss to Ohio State), and that Oregon defense wasn't very good against the run generally, they mostly just relied on that offense. I like Harmon, I like Nolen better, but a trade back and Harmon would be okay if it got us enough of a bonus pick.

For the player SF is going to likely target they are best to trade down assuming someone will trade up. If Campbell or Membou falls to 11 then U take them but the DT's they can draft will be around say picks 15-25.

Drafting another Kyle Williams gives me PTSD

Originally posted by hummbabybear_1:
Drafting another Kyle Williams gives me PTSD

Stop it. He's a really good WR.

I'm not as high on Landon Jackson but I like the rest of the draft, including Kyle.

Our defensive line is so depleted and practically non-existent that I would not mind if we went with three defensive tackles in the first three picks. I also would recommend for us to trade down since there are so many potentials for D tackles, offensive lineman, running backs, tight ends, and other positions that we need to pick.

The defensive tackles that I like:

1-Derrick Harmon
2- Tyleik Williams
3-Walter Nolan
4- Jamaree Caldwell

Edge-LB players:

1-David Walker
2- Sai'vion Jones
3- Jah Joyner

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by hummbabybear_1:

Drafting another Kyle Williams gives me PTSD

Stop it. He's a really good WR.

I'm not as high on Landon Jackson but I like the rest of the draft, including Kyle.

I wouldn't be surprised if Landon ends up being a 3rd or 4th rounder at the end of the day ala Bucs Anthony Nelson.

Originally posted by stonecold590:
I just see Harmon being a massive overreach at 11. Most mocks I've seen don't have him even coming into the picture until the early twenties. Even though he would be a good player for San Francisco in our wide 9 scheme I would not be happy if they reached that far at the 11th pick for Derek Harmon.

Agreed

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by hummbabybear_1:
Drafting another Kyle Williams gives me PTSD

Stop it. He's a really good WR.

I'm not as high on Landon Jackson but I like the rest of the draft, including Kyle.

I wouldn't be surprised if Landon ends up being a 3rd or 4th rounder at the end of the day ala Bucs Anthony Nelson.

I like Jackson. Can play DE and move inside on pass rush downs