Kriz mock #2

Collins is more of a strong safety. We need that FS.

Love any mock that has us getting Bosa but trading Thomas doesn't make sense with your signings and draft. Blair and Street aren't DTs really. The idea is to put Thomas inside this year by bringing in someone like Bosa to play outside. Street, Blair, Taylor and possibly Armstead or FA would play Big end on the other side.

Overall I'd be pretty disappointed in this offseason but kudos to you for putting it together.

Originally posted by genus49:

Collins is more of a strong safety. We need that FS.

Love any mock that has us getting Bosa but trading Thomas doesn't make sense with your signings and draft. Blair and Street aren't DTs really. The idea is to put Thomas inside this year by bringing in someone like Bosa to play outside. Street, Blair, Taylor and possibly Armstead or FA would play Big end on the other side.

Overall I'd be pretty disappointed in this offseason but kudos to you for putting it together.

Not sure what you are saying. All 4 guys you named can play inside on passing just as Thomas is being said to do. Not sure if you are pooking at where they've been used compared to how they can be used.

As you said bringing in an outside guy like Bosa also frees them up to kick inside on passing downs.

As for Collins, he is a two high safety. While ill give you, he may not have the range as an ideal single high safety. I think he is closer to that than you are giving him credit. But besides that, we really need a FS & SS.

Bosa could be done in two years. He's had two huge injuries in less than 3 years

Originally posted by krizay:

Not sure what you are saying. All 4 guys you named can play inside on passing just as Thomas is being said to do. Not sure if you are pooking at where they've been used compared to how they can be used.

As you said bringing in an outside guy like Bosa also frees them up to kick inside on passing downs.

As for Collins, he is a two high safety. While ill give you, he may not have the range as an ideal single high safety. I think he is closer to that than you are giving him credit. But besides that, we really need a FS & SS.

The difference is Thomas should be nearly a full time DT. Blair, Street and the other guys can play inside but are better off playing big end on early downs then getting rotated out on pass downs. They should not be inside more times than not. So I'm saying you're trading away someone who has yet to sniff his potential and someone who can be a pretty good player inside for guys who shouldn't play there outside of a handful of snaps per game. I didn't include Day in that list but I'd rather have him as a backup.

Unless we're drafting Quinnen Williams trading Thomas would seem like an odd move when this year may finally be the year he gets to play inside where he's much more impactful with more consistency.

Originally posted by genus49:

The difference is Thomas should be nearly a full time DT. Blair, Street and the other guys can play inside but are better off playing big end on early downs then getting rotated out on pass downs. They should not be inside more times than not. So I'm saying you're trading away someone who has yet to sniff his potential and someone who can be a pretty good player inside for guys who shouldn't play there outside of a handful of snaps per game. I didn't include Day in that list but I'd rather have him as a backup.

Unless we're drafting Quinnen Williams trading Thomas would seem like an odd move when this year may finally be the year he gets to play inside where he's much more impactful with more consistency.

Where im confused is where exactly you think thomas is playing inside full time.

Between Bosa, Buckner, Armstead only other spot is Mitchell's NT spot. You surely aren't expecting him there are you?

Finally see someone else say that Bosa is injury prone. Both knee and a core injuries ended his season. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2019/2/11/18218045/nfl-draft-rumors-2019-nick-bosa-injury-concerns&ved=2ahUKEwjPpfbC683gAhVj_4MKHfLrD5wQFjAPegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1wqI2-qGOXIYv7-SmveqaO&ampcf=1

Originally posted by danielrod1008:

Finally see someone else say that Bosa is injury prone. Both knee and a core injuries ended his season.

Bro less than 3 years 2 season ending injuries. That's a major concern

Bosa is perfect fit for what niners need but those 2 injuries make u wonder how will he be healthy??

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:

The difference is Thomas should be nearly a full time DT. Blair, Street and the other guys can play inside but are better off playing big end on early downs then getting rotated out on pass downs. They should not be inside more times than not. So I'm saying you're trading away someone who has yet to sniff his potential and someone who can be a pretty good player inside for guys who shouldn't play there outside of a handful of snaps per game. I didn't include Day in that list but I'd rather have him as a backup.

Unless we're drafting Quinnen Williams trading Thomas would seem like an odd move when this year may finally be the year he gets to play inside where he's much more impactful with more consistency.

Where im confused is where exactly you think thomas is playing inside full time.

Between Bosa, Buckner, Armstead only other spot is Mitchell's NT spot. You surely aren't expecting him there are you?

I'm expecting us to be in nickel more times than not next year so yes inside next to Buckner. He played out there in non nickel alignments last year and didn't get bowled over so the idea that he can't play inside along with Buck is flawed.

Mitchell won't be on the team next year so it's not even his spot anymore. We can also move Buckner outside here and there similar to what the Jags did with Campbell.

Either way I think moving him with the offseason you're suggesting would be a mistake but guess we'll see.

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by danielrod1008:

Finally see someone else say that Bosa is injury prone. Both knee and a core injuries ended his season.

Bro less than 3 years 2 season ending injuries. That's a major concern

Only one injury ended his season for medical reasons (knee). He could have played late in the season with the core injury, he just chose to prepare for the draft.

Krizay...well done. I like the outside the box thinking here coupled with a little luck. You have a great feel for team needs.