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Kalen's 2018 Mock Offseason (1st Edition)
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Feb 8, 2018 at 2:31 AM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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I can dig it but Elvis is our best pass rusher and he still has some meat in the tank. Fared solid on pass rushers from NFC. Definitely gotta keep him my dude.
Feb 8, 2018 at 2:49 AM
- Shifty
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
I can dig it but Elvis is our best pass rusher and he still has some meat in the tank. Fared solid on pass rushers from NFC. Definitely gotta keep him my dude.
I do like Elvis, great locker room presence and had a solid season, just think with Ansah, Marsh, Armstrong we get younger and better. But we aren't short on cap space so I could definitely see us keeping him this coming season too
Feb 8, 2018 at 5:21 AM
- SteveYoung
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Very nice.
Nice work!
Nice work!
Feb 8, 2018 at 10:31 AM
- NYniner85
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Good work on the mock
If I'm critiquing it, I don't see SF paying Hyde that kind of cash. I also don't see SF paying Norwell that kind of cash, not sure he's a ideal fit for ZBS and I don't think you pay someone that type of money unless it's a perfect match.
Why would Ward take that deal? He's getting $8.5 million next yr and if we cut him I would bet he gets more than that in FA.
Going Iowa for two picks I see, like both not sure how I value Jackson up to this pt...only really one yr of production. If they're high on him I'm good with it. Daniels is one of my favorite centers. I haven't really watched much of Armstrong so I don't have a opinion on him.
If I'm critiquing it, I don't see SF paying Hyde that kind of cash. I also don't see SF paying Norwell that kind of cash, not sure he's a ideal fit for ZBS and I don't think you pay someone that type of money unless it's a perfect match.
Why would Ward take that deal? He's getting $8.5 million next yr and if we cut him I would bet he gets more than that in FA.
Going Iowa for two picks I see, like both not sure how I value Jackson up to this pt...only really one yr of production. If they're high on him I'm good with it. Daniels is one of my favorite centers. I haven't really watched much of Armstrong so I don't have a opinion on him.
Feb 8, 2018 at 1:06 PM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Good work on the mock![]()
If I'm critiquing it, I don't see SF paying Hyde that kind of cash. I also don't see SF paying Norwell that kind of cash, not sure he's a ideal fit for ZBS and I don't think you pay someone that type of money unless it's a perfect match.
Why would Ward take that deal? He's getting $8.5 million next yr and if we cut him I would bet he gets more than that in FA.
Going Iowa for two picks I see, like both not sure how I value Jackson up to this pt...only really one yr of production. If they're high on him I'm good with it. Daniels is one of my favorite centers. I haven't really watched much of Armstrong so I don't have a opinion on him.
You think if we cut Ward someone will give him more? I think 2 year, 10 mill deal is fair.
Feb 8, 2018 at 1:07 PM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:I can dig it but Elvis is our best pass rusher and he still has some meat in the tank. Fared solid on pass rushers from NFC. Definitely gotta keep him my dude.
I do like Elvis, great locker room presence and had a solid season, just think with Ansah, Marsh, Armstrong we get younger and better. But we aren't short on cap space so I could definitely see us keeping him this coming season too
Yep. Gotta keep him... Rotating fresh guys is a good thing. He also only makes 3.5 mill I believe.
Feb 8, 2018 at 1:46 PM
- tohara3
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Absolutely love this draft! Would be super excited if it fell this way
Feb 8, 2018 at 3:29 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:You think if we cut Ward someone will give him more? I think 2 year, 10 mill deal is fair.
I think he would get something more than a 2 yr deal. I don't see the pt in signing at all though. We got one more season to evaluate him and can move on, honestly I'm fine if they cut him all together. I'm on the Colbert train
and we already have a slot who was extended. IF they don't see him as a starting FS then let him go get paid somewhere else.
Feb 8, 2018 at 3:47 PM
- krizay
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1 of my favorite ones so far....
Thpugh not a big fan of shead or mcdougald.
Also not as high on armstrong as some.but its a mock i can live with for sure
Thpugh not a big fan of shead or mcdougald.
Also not as high on armstrong as some.but its a mock i can live with for sure
Feb 8, 2018 at 4:23 PM
- FL9er
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I don't like the idea of giving a division rival their future franchise QB, or even Nelson (their OL is worse than trash).
Feb 8, 2018 at 4:29 PM
- davidboutte
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I like the Ward restructure. I'd even add a 3rd year but keep the 1 year out. Daniels should be there at 47 but if we target him as our guy m good with that. I've been saying since draft day I hated the Armstead pick. I never believed in him. I think 6.67 is to much for Hyde but your creating a need point is valid. I'd add in D Armstrong has potential at Sam also so I love the double on Edge guys. Turn a weakness into a strength. I'd keep Elvis too. Good job overall!
Feb 8, 2018 at 4:56 PM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:You think if we cut Ward someone will give him more? I think 2 year, 10 mill deal is fair.
I think he would get something more than a 2 yr deal. I don't see the pt in signing at all though. We got one more season to evaluate him and can move on, honestly I'm fine if they cut him all together. I'm on the Colbert trainand we already have a slot who was extended. IF they don't see him as a starting FS then let him go get paid somewhere else.
Maybe the 2nd year can be a player option so he can decide what to do and you never know what happens exactly. 5 mill is a great deal IMO cause he can compete rotate and be great insurance due to his versatility. Basically counts as 2 guys.
Feb 8, 2018 at 5:42 PM
- Shifty
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:You think if we cut Ward someone will give him more? I think 2 year, 10 mill deal is fair.
I think he would get something more than a 2 yr deal. I don't see the pt in signing at all though. We got one more season to evaluate him and can move on, honestly I'm fine if they cut him all together. I'm on the Colbert trainand we already have a slot who was extended. IF they don't see him as a starting FS then let him go get paid somewhere else.
Maybe the 2nd year can be a player option so he can decide what to do and you never know what happens exactly. 5 mill is a great deal IMO cause he can compete rotate and be great insurance due to his versatility. Basically counts as 2 guys.
That's my thought process in my mock, he can start at CB while Josh Jackson learns the nuances of the defense and NFL offenses. Gives us flexibility and depth in our secondary to do different things as the season progresses.
Not sure at this point Ward would get much more than $5 million per year based on his injury. Win win for both sides I think.
Feb 8, 2018 at 5:46 PM
- Shifty
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Originally posted by FL9er:I don't like the idea of giving a division rival their future franchise QB, or even Nelson (their OL is worse than trash).
Fair point and I understand where you're coming from. I think the Cards will be hell bent on getting a FQB so if they don't trade with us they could very well trade with Chicago or Tampa or Oakland.
Either way they will get their QB and if we value 15 and 47 overall higher than 9/10 overall it's worth it in my mind.
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