Nice job GEEK. I think you kept it realistic and filled a lot of needs. Especially that offensive line would be sick if we could pull off getting Norwell and Jensen. I'm also a fan of bringing in a guy like Byron Maxwell on a cheaper deal to get some experience at CB.
I am working on a Mock Offseason and had a number of moves similar to this. Again, great job!
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Jan 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM
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Jan 11, 2018 at 11:30 AM
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I like the 5 guys you pick in the top 3 rounds, but I will say that trading down twice prevents us from really getting an elite talent. Ideally, we won't be picking here for awhile, so I want to maximize it as much as possible.
That being said, Davenport may end up being that guy, it's just hard to tell. The senior bowl/combine process hopefully will flesh some of this out.
That being said, Davenport may end up being that guy, it's just hard to tell. The senior bowl/combine process hopefully will flesh some of this out.
Jan 11, 2018 at 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:Nice job GEEK. I think you kept it realistic and filled a lot of needs. Especially that offensive line would be sick if we could pull off getting Norwell and Jensen. I'm also a fan of bringing in a guy like Byron Maxwell on a cheaper deal to get some experience at CB.
I am working on a Mock Offseason and had a number of moves similar to this. Again, great job!
Thanks man. Definitely, agree. Look forward to seeing your mock soon!
Jan 11, 2018 at 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:I like the 5 guys you pick in the top 3 rounds, but I will say that trading down twice prevents us from really getting an elite talent. Ideally, we won't be picking here for awhile, so I want to maximize it as much as possible.
That being said, Davenport may end up being that guy, it's just hard to tell. The senior bowl/combine process hopefully will flesh some of this out.
Understand the concern regarding the double trade down. I see the elite talent being Nelson, Chubb, R. Smith, J. Jackson, and Barkley in the top 10. If the board plays out like it does in my mock, then we are basically left with Nelson. After signing Norwell and Jensen, we have Kilgore, Tomlinson, and Garnett all competing for the RG spot. With Nelson not an ideal scheme fit, it makes sense to trade down and target the first round of very good players.
But you can find great talent throughout the draft. We got Foster at the bottom of round 1. Witherspoon was a 3rd rounder. So if we can finish the 3 days with a similar draft of talent that emerges as starters and strong role players, then we've addressed a lot of cracks in the 49er foundation.
Jan 11, 2018 at 1:06 PM
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Awesome job. I'd be good with it.
A few notes: I'd love a vet CB1 opposite Spoon. I'm not sure if Maxwell/Oliver is the answer there. Maybe.
I vastly prefer Fusco to Tomlinson for interor oline depth. Dude outplayed Tomlinson all year despite a ruptured biceps tendon.
Also I like Gabriel's history with shanahan.
Lastly, we need an answer at SAM. Harold is not good. No excuse for starting him again next season.
A few notes: I'd love a vet CB1 opposite Spoon. I'm not sure if Maxwell/Oliver is the answer there. Maybe.
I vastly prefer Fusco to Tomlinson for interor oline depth. Dude outplayed Tomlinson all year despite a ruptured biceps tendon.
Also I like Gabriel's history with shanahan.
Lastly, we need an answer at SAM. Harold is not good. No excuse for starting him again next season.
Jan 11, 2018 at 8:04 PM
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Trades like that rarely happen, but it was a very smart way to mock it, and I'd take it in a heart beat if presented to us come draft day.
I really like: Davenport, Oliver, Shelton, and Flowers. Would have went a different direction with the others .
I really like: Davenport, Oliver, Shelton, and Flowers. Would have went a different direction with the others .
Jan 12, 2018 at 9:57 PM
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Good mock! Totally agree that SF will be a destination for FAs this year and going forward. With the cap room they have your FA list may be reasonable.
Lot of picks to like. A couple of these guys will go much higher, but if you use the position as a placeholder I believe it can still be reasonable. In other words, CBS Board has Center Shelton in the late second, early third round. But do the niners need to upgrade at center? Yes! And you list FAs as well as use the draft for that need. Thumbs up!
Lot of picks to like. A couple of these guys will go much higher, but if you use the position as a placeholder I believe it can still be reasonable. In other words, CBS Board has Center Shelton in the late second, early third round. But do the niners need to upgrade at center? Yes! And you list FAs as well as use the draft for that need. Thumbs up!
Jan 13, 2018 at 6:15 PM
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Love the o line additions. I could see a team maybe trading up for a qb if he falls but not for Nelson.
Jan 13, 2018 at 7:59 PM
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Geek, like the mock. But if we get Jensen and Norwell in FA, and Roquan Smith is on the board at 8, I'm trading up two spots to get him.
So if you're doing this, you have to really like Davenport. Which is fine if you do.
HOWEVER, to make a Super Bowl run THIS YEAR, we need to hit in the first round and Davenport is not a guaranteed hit and has risk. Smith and Nelson are prob the most sure things in this entire draft and getting Smith is close to a 100% hit in the first round.
Pass rush is necessary though so I like that you addressed that. Davenport better pan out as we passed on a small trade up to get an elite LB next to Foster for a decade.
Did you ever consider a trade up for Smith?
Good job with the mock btw.
So if you're doing this, you have to really like Davenport. Which is fine if you do.
HOWEVER, to make a Super Bowl run THIS YEAR, we need to hit in the first round and Davenport is not a guaranteed hit and has risk. Smith and Nelson are prob the most sure things in this entire draft and getting Smith is close to a 100% hit in the first round.
Pass rush is necessary though so I like that you addressed that. Davenport better pan out as we passed on a small trade up to get an elite LB next to Foster for a decade.
Did you ever consider a trade up for Smith?
Good job with the mock btw.
[ Edited by Ezekiel38 on Jan 13, 2018 at 8:00 PM ]
Jan 14, 2018 at 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by Ezekiel38:Geek, like the mock. But if we get Jensen and Norwell in FA, and Roquan Smith is on the board at 8, I'm trading up two spots to get him.
So if you're doing this, you have to really like Davenport. Which is fine if you do.
HOWEVER, to make a Super Bowl run THIS YEAR, we need to hit in the first round and Davenport is not a guaranteed hit and has risk. Smith and Nelson are prob the most sure things in this entire draft and getting Smith is close to a 100% hit in the first round.
Pass rush is necessary though so I like that you addressed that. Davenport better pan out as we passed on a small trade up to get an elite LB next to Foster for a decade.
Did you ever consider a trade up for Smith?
Good job with the mock btw.
That's a great point, and something I considered before finalizing the mock. The decision could end up being similar to the Patrick Willis vs. Adam Carriker consideration in 2007, and we all know how that ended up. With the Bears picking at #8 and the mock picking Smith, there could be some trade potential to be had for the Bears to recoup their lost 3rd round pick.
However, the new HC and Pace know it's still another 1-2 years for the rebuild to be complete. With Fangio still as DC, he would salivate to have another Willis in his front 7.
If we could package something like #10, Armstead, and 4th (via PIT) for #8, I would be on-board. They would trade back, get a starting caliber 3-4 DE, get a Ridley/Sutton at WR, and get a 4th round pick. However, I think the Bears would demand their 3rd round pick to be returned if they are going to pass on Roquan Smith. And I'm not sure if we want to lose that pick.
Most notably, we'd have to do another trade up in order to get a solid EDGE player in this draft. 2 trade ups and a smaller draft class...not sure if Lynch and Shanahan would want that. They said last year that it's not about 1-2 players. While we won our last 5 games, the rebuild is far from over.
If we are super aggressive in FA and snag guys like Allen Robinson, Ryan Jensen, Andrew Norwell, Trumaine Johnson, AND the 2nd tier guys, I could see aggressively trading up for the right players. But that seems a bit unrealistic even though we have the cap room to get it done.