Carson Wentz traded to the Colts

Originally posted by pdizo916:
It's alot to trade for a QB who cannot stay on the field. That 3rd and 2nd could have been used to move up in the draft and select a qb they like. And also, that draft pick's salary would have been less than Wentz salary. They could have really good FAs to round out the team, especially since there are going to be a lot of players available because of salary cap casualties.

I can see why they would gamble on Wentz but it's a gamble that will probably backfire. Sucks to be them, though.

Part of helping a QB to stay on the field is having an OL worth a damn, something that Philly has not had, something that Wentz will have with the Colts.

And also, that draft pick's salary would have been less than Wentz salary.

And if Wentz starts playing more like he did in 2017 and 2018, he'll be worth far more to them than that draft pick most likely ever could. Its a gamble but its not a bad one. Wentz played his best under Reich who is the Colts coach. They brought in his former QB coach from Philly who he apparently had a good relationship with. The Colts have much a better coaching and front office situation so if he's going to succeed anywhere, it'll be there.

top of 2016 draft was hilarious

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

#Eagles were looking for a "Matthew Stafford" deal of two 1st round picks and a 3rd for Wentz.

They ended up with only a 3rd in 2021 and a conditional 2nd round pick in 2022.

Eagles originally gave the #Browns two 1sts, a 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th to trade up to draft him in 2016.

— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) February 18, 2021

And yet everyone wants to trade the farm for an unknown rookie qb. Its such a crap shoot.

I mentioned this was a strong possibility some time ago and many said the $$$ would make it prohibitive.

I'm certain we'll see a lot of other surprises coming up especially w/the new cap number.

Maybe we'll get lucky and pickup an interior OL.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Eh....I wouldn't go that far. The reports of him being a total cancer made most want him out in favor of Hurts. They wanted more compensation though.

I don't buy a lot of that stuff. He's been there for years, was regarded as a good teammate and highly supportive, even with the awkward Foles situation and suddenly only after this season all this stuff came out? Howie Roseman is a POS that has done that Baalke "leak and throw dirt at everyone" deal for years.

If he stays healthy, I wouldn't be shocked one bit if Wentz goes out there and plays well when given an actual OL and some good targets to throw to.

You may not buy it but TV, radio and fans here do. Roseman is s**t and they want him gone, but there is no love for Wentz either.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Now comes the question that matters. Do the Eagles plan to go with Jalen Hurts this season or do they plan on drafting a QB at 6?

Hurts was drafted by Doug Pederson so the new coach may not want Hurts.

They plan to start Hurts or at least are indicating they plan to

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Now comes the question that matters. Do the Eagles plan to go with Jalen Hurts this season or do they plan on drafting a QB at 6?

Hurts was drafted by Doug Pederson so the new coach may not want Hurts.

They plan to start Hurts or at least are indicating they plan to

I posted a few more times after that post you quoted above. Yeah it looks like they will give Hurts an honest chance at developing, at least for 2021.

Eagles have to eat around $33 Million in dead cap money. Ouch. Now I know why they wanted two 1st RD picks. But other teams are not going to say "Well since you have to eat so much money, it makes Wentz more valuable".

I honestly don't know what to make of Wentz, because there were no gray zones involved. He was definitely surrounded by some poor receivers for long stretches and atrocious offensive line work. He can be nearly fully excused for that. However, he made several cringe-worthy decisions in the pocket that rookies would not be given any leeway with. You also hear some pretty awful stuff about the guy in lockerroom talk.....how legit that was, I dunno.

I'm not on board with getting any of these vet QB's - if we're getting one, I want it from the draft - but Wentz was always one of the last choices for myself. I just don't know if this guy is shot or what. Glad we don't have to worry about it.

Low price for Colts. I would have traded for Wentz. Would be very unpopular among Niner fans though.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Eagles have to eat around $33 Million in dead cap money. Ouch. Now I know why they wanted two 1st RD picks. But other teams are not going to say "Well since you have to eat so much money, it makes Wentz more valuable".

Yikes! Good buy for the Colts. A QB that played for the current coach who he had previously succeeded for a low third. He will be a plug and play since he knows the system with a solid roster around him. The future 2nd or even a first means he's playing well and in the playoffs. Not bad!

Originally posted by boast:
top of 2016 draft was hilarious

Looking through the draft since 2010, QBs picked in the top 5 haven't panned out. 2018-2020 QBs top 5 picks still TBD.

Whelp now there is another team who will probably be looking to draft a qb ahead of us. I highly doubt the eagles just ride with Hurd.

Originally posted by Bitplayer:
Whelp now there is another team who will probably be looking to draft a qb ahead of us. I highly doubt the eagles just ride with Hurd.

Dude they're about to cut half their team just to get under the cap. If there's a team that needs picks and cheap rookie contracts, it's Philly.

they're gonna pump up the "need" for a QB so they can get some trades going.

Originally posted by Bitplayer:
Whelp now there is another team who will probably be looking to draft a qb ahead of us. I highly doubt the eagles just ride with Hurd.

they wont be wasting any high picks on a QB. they need to draft talent at most of the skill positions.