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Ndamukong Suh Maybe Released

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Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Why would a 9er fan argue with another 9er fan about GMs when both haven't won anything and Snead has been GM longer ?

Because Snead is making moves (great moves) to try and assemble a winning team while Lynch hasn't done enough in FA with the massive cap space he has couple with the obviously false reports of FA wanted to sign here. And some posters here like to deny reality.

I get that FA can be a trap to handicap your team for a long time. But we've got the cap space and a FQB. Let's go assemble a team to win now. Thanks.

We don't know who has and who hasn't wanted to come here. We also don't know which players that may have wanted to come here were discouraged because they did not fit the system.

It is true that a coach may need to adjust the system to fit the players but in the case of certain players that were highly regarded in FA, such as Andrew Norwell, it was clear they were not a good fit to a system that is already about 75% filled.

You need the pump the brakes on the negativity about Lynch not signing more players.
Originally posted by dj43:
We don't know who has and who hasn't wanted to come here. We also don't know which players that may have wanted to come here were discouraged because they did not fit the system.

It is true that a coach may need to adjust the system to fit the players but in the case of certain players that were highly regarded in FA, such as Andrew Norwell, it was clear they were not a good fit to a system that is already about 75% filled.

You need the pump the brakes on the negativity about Lynch not signing more players.

Good point on Norwell. We signed Richburg instead. I'm good with that.

So we can only post on the forum if it's positive about SF? We;re not allowed to criticize here?
Originally posted by crabman82:
It doesnt matter who ppl think theyll be able to keep. That will be shown over time. A lot on comments on here and twitter etc about the rams being f**ked with too many ppl to pay. I just showed a tweet saying they have the fewest committed $$ the next 2 seasons. They wont keep everyone, nobody ever does. But this mass exodus some are expecting is severely over played.

Careful, you're not allowed to disagree with anyone here

That being said, I hope their entire team is dismantled. I don't expect Seattle or Arizona to relevant for the next few years.
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Why would a 9er fan argue with another 9er fan about GMs when both haven't won anything and Snead has been GM longer ?

Because Snead is making moves (great moves) to try and assemble a winning team while Lynch hasn't done enough in FA with the massive cap space he has couple with the obviously false reports of FA wanted to sign here. And some posters here like to deny reality.

I get that FA can be a trap to handicap your team for a long time. But we've got the cap space and a FQB. Let's go assemble a team to win now. Thanks.

You have no idea how these moves will play out.

All those guys are great talents but until we actually see them play together and see the results hyping up Snead right now is a moot point. We've seen teams bring in big money and big talent free agents before and they didn't win squat.

Last year's free agent signings weren't exactly super exciting and yet they all produced and should be key pieces for the 49ers this year.

Rams are going all in because they actually made the playoffs last year. We finished 5-0 and things look great but we're not at a point where you take caution to the wind and throw a chitload of money at free agents and trade away draft picks to bring in guys who may affect team chemistry and not in a good way.

One of the reasons we finished as strong as we did was because team chemistry was great. Everyone was playing well together. Adding guys who are more about themselves than the team isn't a great fit regardless of talent.
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by dj43:
We don't know who has and who hasn't wanted to come here. We also don't know which players that may have wanted to come here were discouraged because they did not fit the system.

It is true that a coach may need to adjust the system to fit the players but in the case of certain players that were highly regarded in FA, such as Andrew Norwell, it was clear they were not a good fit to a system that is already about 75% filled.

You need the pump the brakes on the negativity about Lynch not signing more players.

Good point on Norwell. We signed Richburg instead. I'm good with that.

So we can only post on the forum if it's positive about SF? We;re not allowed to criticize here?

What exactly are you criticizing though?

Who should the 49ers have signed that they didn't?
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by dj43:
We don't know who has and who hasn't wanted to come here. We also don't know which players that may have wanted to come here were discouraged because they did not fit the system.

It is true that a coach may need to adjust the system to fit the players but in the case of certain players that were highly regarded in FA, such as Andrew Norwell, it was clear they were not a good fit to a system that is already about 75% filled.

You need the pump the brakes on the negativity about Lynch not signing more players.

Good point on Norwell. We signed Richburg instead. I'm good with that.

So we can only post on the forum if it's positive about SF? We;re not allowed to criticize here?
how can you criticize anything when you don't know the results ?
Originally posted by VA9erfan:
Originally posted by crabman82:
It doesnt matter who ppl think theyll be able to keep. That will be shown over time. A lot on comments on here and twitter etc about the rams being f**ked with too many ppl to pay. I just showed a tweet saying they have the fewest committed $$ the next 2 seasons. They wont keep everyone, nobody ever does. But this mass exodus some are expecting is severely over played.

Well that remains to be seen too, right? Shown over time, correct?

Yeah but at times logic should be inserted too. How likely is it that the team with the fewest committed dollars says nah i'm good and lets their guys like donald gurley and goff just walk? I know ur a niner fan who has watched baalke hoard cap space and lynch not exactly burn through his but i'm hoping you're smart enough to read between the lines on this one.
Originally posted by genus49:
What exactly are you criticizing though?

Who should the 49ers have signed that they didn't?

A-Rob for one.

I would've taken a chance on Sam Shields at CB.

I would easily take Jordan Matthews or Decker on this team as a red zone threat. Our receiving corps look weak

Jimmy Graham would've been a nice red zone target for us

Sheldon Richardson would've been nice

There are a few others who would've been nice to have on a team with a lot of holes.

Lynch has to hit a home run in the draft for immediate impact players, no projects.
Originally posted by Scottie15:
A-Rob for one.

I would've taken a chance on Sam Shields at CB.

I would easily take Jordan Matthews or Decker on this team as a red zone threat. Our receiving corps look weak

Jimmy Graham would've been a nice red zone target for us

Sheldon Richardson would've been nice

There are a few others who would've been nice to have on a team with a lot of holes.

Lynch has to hit a home run in the draft for immediate impact players, no projects.

Lol you are treating this like your Madden team.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Lol you are treating this like your Madden team.

I'm not asking for all of them. Honestly, the biggest one was A-Rob. We have no play-makers or red-zone threats at WR.
Originally posted by Scottie15:
Originally posted by genus49:
What exactly are you criticizing though?

Who should the 49ers have signed that they didn't?

A-Rob for one.

I would've taken a chance on Sam Shields at CB.

I would easily take Jordan Matthews or Decker on this team as a red zone threat. Our receiving corps look weak

Jimmy Graham would've been a nice red zone target for us

Sheldon Richardson would've been nice

There are a few others who would've been nice to have on a team with a lot of holes.

Lynch has to hit a home run in the draft for immediate impact players, no projects.

A-Rob is the only one on here I can agree with however I'm going to trust Kyle Shanahan on this one. If he felt strongly about what Robinson could do in this scheme there's no question he would be a 49er right now. We've clearly shown that if Kyle wants someone and thinks they're a great fit for his offense - we get them regardless of how it looks to other people in terms of cost.

We did that with Juice. We did that with McKinnon. We did that with Richburg. So when it comes to offense i'm giving Lynch a pass because he's getting the guys Kyle wants and I'm not going to pretend I know what works on this team better than the guy running the scheme.

Sam Shields? Did I miss something? Guy hasn't played since early 2016 and you want him but didn't like the Sherman signing?

Sheldon Richardson? Where is he playing?

Let's be honest when you break it down your criticisms are either you thinking you know more about Kyle's scheme than Kyle or you're being unrealistic.

I would've like A-Rob, Kyle Fuller, Andrew Norwell, Avery Williamson, etc....but it wouldn't be realistic.
Originally posted by genus49:
A-Rob is the only one on here I can agree with however I'm going to trust Kyle Shanahan on this one. If he felt strongly about what Robinson could do in this scheme there's no question he would be a 49er right now. We've clearly shown that if Kyle wants someone and thinks they're a great fit for his offense - we get them regardless of how it looks to other people in terms of cost.

We did that with Juice. We did that with McKinnon. We did that with Richburg. So when it comes to offense i'm giving Lynch a pass because he's getting the guys Kyle wants and I'm not going to pretend I know what works on this team better than the guy running the scheme.

Sam Shields? Did I miss something? Guy hasn't played since early 2016 and you want him but didn't like the Sherman signing?

Sheldon Richardson? Where is he playing?

Let's be honest when you break it down your criticisms are either you thinking you know more about Kyle's scheme than Kyle or you're being unrealistic.

I would've like A-Rob, Kyle Fuller, Andrew Norwell, Avery Williamson, etc....but it wouldn't be realistic.

Yea I think it's not landing A-Rob that bugged me. Mostly because we don't have a redzone threat.

You can say what you want about Kyle, but he didn't have a redzone threat in this receiving corps last year. Their redzone offense was awful. I don't think this is a "scheme" issue more than it is either Lynch not reaching out to A-Rob's camp or Paraag's contracts being an issue. I don't think it is realistic that A-Ron turned down the Niners if they provided an offer of equal value.

Everyone keeps talking about Kyle's "scheme", a scheme that yielded 0 wins until we got Garoppolo. I'm fine with that, since we were winning with Garoppolo, but we still need a redzone threat. Period.

That doesn't even touch the issues we have on defense, but I'm hoping the draft can provide an immediate return on investment. We can't afford anymore "projects".

Of course, this is all under the assumption Lynch and Shanahan want to win now or in the next couple of years.



Run for the hills lol
Originally posted by NYniner85:



Run for the hills lol


But, SF is where all the free agents want to be!

Ok, I'm done. I had to, I'm sorry
Suh signed a 1 year $14 Million deal with the Rams. We need to make sure our OL is ready to go at the start of the season.
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