Agent: 49ers waiting on contract extensions

I agree with the 49ers philosophy to wait until actual free agency begins for right now.
It seems like guys like Aubrayo Franklin and David Baas are more valuable to us rather than other teams.

Franklin is strictly a one-gap 3-4 NT, and a 2-3 year solution at the position at best. In addition, the majority of 3-4 defenses already have their franchise NTs in place. The Texans and Bills are the biggest threats from the 49ers keeping Franklin - specifically the Texans as they are a playoff caliber team now.

At the same time, teams like the Texans and Bills may opt to go young and start the development process early.

And if we do lose Franklin, we do have Jean-Francois and Sopoaga that can play the position.

So I see it as a matter of retaining Franklin at the right price. And the 49ers can only figure that out once free agency starts.

Honestly, I have no idea because the CBA will expire within a few days and I'd hate for us to frantically trying to re-sign our guys a week before the season. I would think we should be trying to resign guys like Baas, McDonald, Wragge... cheap guys but it's too late now. They would probably run of time. I guess they expect little heat from other teams when this thing gets settled. For all we know they are letting a bunch of these guys walk so obviously we wouldn't be negotiating with them.

For the most part though all are guys are replaceable... we signed Vernon Davis, he was the only guy we probably didn't want to live without. Franklin is probably our next priority but I be he doesn't want to resign with us. Goldson, Lawson... I wouldn't mind having them back but at a reasonable price. I wouldn't sweat it if we drafted their replacements.

Originally posted by GEEK:
I agree with the 49ers philosophy to wait until actual free agency begins for right now.
It seems like guys like Aubrayo Franklin and David Baas are more valuable to us rather than other teams.

Franklin is strictly a one-gap 3-4 NT, and a 2-3 year solution at the position at best. In addition, the majority of 3-4 defenses already have their franchise NTs in place. The Texans and Bills are the biggest threats from the 49ers keeping Franklin - specifically the Texans as they are a playoff caliber team now.

At the same time, teams like the Texans and Bills may opt to go young and start the development process early.

And if we do lose Franklin, we do have Jean-Francois and Sopoaga that can play the position.

So I see it as a matter of retaining Franklin at the right price. And the 49ers can only figure that out once free agency starts.

Nice assestment of Franklin's market and value. I didn't think of it that way, hopefully your right and no team poses a true threat and we can get him to a 3 year deal for reasonable $ to return.

Even if these guys are replaceabale, we sure are creating a lot of wholes on this team. If you think these guys are scrubs, look at the guys behind them. The most perplexing is the Baas situation. Behind him all we have is Heitmann and didn't he have a neck injury? I guess center is not that big of a deal in Harbaughs offense...

I know there are a lot of new faces in charge, but didn't we say we haven't gone hard in FA the last two years because we want to sign our own guys? We'll, these are our own guys! It takes more than Patrick Willis and Davis to build a team.

It just doesn't feel like we are that commited to winning. The Yorks are very good at giving the fan base just enough to keep them quite. I know a lot of you guys think this is great because of the cap, but at this rate we will have enough cap space to build an expansion team. We are screwed if this CBA thing drags out up to the beginning of the season.

i think we have to resign laboy and baas now alex is a maybe

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Even if these guys are replaceabale, we sure are creating a lot of wholes on this team. If you think these guys are scrubs, look at the guys behind them. The most perplexing is the Baas situation. Behind him all we have is Heitmann and didn't he have a neck injury? I guess center is not that big of a deal in Harbaughs offense...

I know there are a lot of new faces in charge, but didn't we say we haven't gone hard in FA the last two years because we want to sign our own guys? We'll, these are our own guys! It takes more than Patrick Willis and Davis to build a team.

It just doesn't feel like we are that commited to winning. The Yorks are very good at giving the fan base just enough to keep them quite. I know a lot of you guys think this is great because of the cap, but at this rate we will have enough cap space to build an expansion team. We are screwed if this CBA thing drags out up to the beginning of the season.

To be fair, the guys we haven't tried to resign yet aren't pro bowl players. Guys like Baas are replaceable, and you don't want to overpay. We tried that before with players like Haralson, A. Smith, and Snyder.

Originally posted by GEEK:
I agree with the 49ers philosophy to wait until actual free agency begins for right now.
It seems like guys like Aubrayo Franklin and David Baas are more valuable to us rather than other teams.

Franklin is strictly a one-gap 3-4 NT, and a 2-3 year solution at the position at best. In addition, the majority of 3-4 defenses already have their franchise NTs in place. The Texans and Bills are the biggest threats from the 49ers keeping Franklin - specifically the Texans as they are a playoff caliber team now.

At the same time, teams like the Texans and Bills may opt to go young and start the development process early.

And if we do lose Franklin, we do have Jean-Francois and Sopoaga that can play the position.

So I see it as a matter of retaining Franklin at the right price. And the 49ers can only figure that out once free agency starts.

Gotta watch the Redskins also. I believe they would easily over pay Franklin as there 3-4 d line is in dire need.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by GEEK:
I agree with the 49ers philosophy to wait until actual free agency begins for right now.
It seems like guys like Aubrayo Franklin and David Baas are more valuable to us rather than other teams.

Franklin is strictly a one-gap 3-4 NT, and a 2-3 year solution at the position at best. In addition, the majority of 3-4 defenses already have their franchise NTs in place. The Texans and Bills are the biggest threats from the 49ers keeping Franklin - specifically the Texans as they are a playoff caliber team now.

At the same time, teams like the Texans and Bills may opt to go young and start the development process early.

And if we do lose Franklin, we do have Jean-Francois and Sopoaga that can play the position.

So I see it as a matter of retaining Franklin at the right price. And the 49ers can only figure that out once free agency starts.

Gotta watch the Redskins also. I believe they would easily over pay Franklin as there 3-4 d line is in dire need.

Very true. Although I don't know if they want to bite on paying a large contract to another d-lineman after the Haynesworth fiasco rather than developing someone young, and letting that young guy rotate with Kemoeatu.

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Even if these guys are replaceabale, we sure are creating a lot of wholes on this team. If you think these guys are scrubs, look at the guys behind them. The most perplexing is the Baas situation. Behind him all we have is Heitmann and didn't he have a neck injury? I guess center is not that big of a deal in Harbaughs offense...

I know there are a lot of new faces in charge, but didn't we say we haven't gone hard in FA the last two years because we want to sign our own guys? We'll, these are our own guys! It takes more than Patrick Willis and Davis to build a team.

It just doesn't feel like we are that commited to winning. The Yorks are very good at giving the fan base just enough to keep them quite. I know a lot of you guys think this is great because of the cap, but at this rate we will have enough cap space to build an expansion team. We are screwed if this CBA thing drags out up to the beginning of the season.

To be fair, the guys we haven't tried to resign yet aren't pro bowl players. Guys like Baas are replaceable, and you don't want to overpay. We tried that before with players like Haralson, A. Smith, and Snyder.

The flip side of that coin is you dont want to penny pinch your roster either. I think it's ok to pay FMV (Fair market value) at times, but it seems like we are always bargin shopping. I just wonder how many quality players we've passed up because we couldn't get them at rock bottom prices? We've been operating well under the cap now for at least 6 years. I'm not sure what exactly we are saving all the money for? It's not like rollover minutes. Too many people on this board look at our couple of big name signings, but I think you have to look at the total money spent vs the cap.

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by GEEK:
I agree with the 49ers philosophy to wait until actual free agency begins for right now.
It seems like guys like Aubrayo Franklin and David Baas are more valuable to us rather than other teams.

Franklin is strictly a one-gap 3-4 NT, and a 2-3 year solution at the position at best. In addition, the majority of 3-4 defenses already have their franchise NTs in place. The Texans and Bills are the biggest threats from the 49ers keeping Franklin - specifically the Texans as they are a playoff caliber team now.

At the same time, teams like the Texans and Bills may opt to go young and start the development process early.

And if we do lose Franklin, we do have Jean-Francois and Sopoaga that can play the position.

So I see it as a matter of retaining Franklin at the right price. And the 49ers can only figure that out once free agency starts.

Gotta watch the Redskins also. I believe they would easily over pay Franklin as there 3-4 d line is in dire need.

Very true. Although I don't know if they want to bite on paying a large contract to another d-lineman after the Haynesworth fiasco rather than developing someone young, and letting that young guy rotate with Kemoeatu.

I think the 9ers are making the right call on Franklin. We need him, but I dont trust him. I think he's gonna sign a big contract and cost.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by GEEK:
I agree with the 49ers philosophy to wait until actual free agency begins for right now.
It seems like guys like Aubrayo Franklin and David Baas are more valuable to us rather than other teams.

Franklin is strictly a one-gap 3-4 NT, and a 2-3 year solution at the position at best. In addition, the majority of 3-4 defenses already have their franchise NTs in place. The Texans and Bills are the biggest threats from the 49ers keeping Franklin - specifically the Texans as they are a playoff caliber team now.

At the same time, teams like the Texans and Bills may opt to go young and start the development process early.

And if we do lose Franklin, we do have Jean-Francois and Sopoaga that can play the position.

So I see it as a matter of retaining Franklin at the right price. And the 49ers can only figure that out once free agency starts.

Gotta watch the Redskins also. I believe they would easily over pay Franklin as there 3-4 d line is in dire need.

Very true. Although I don't know if they want to bite on paying a large contract to another d-lineman after the Haynesworth fiasco rather than developing someone young, and letting that young guy rotate with Kemoeatu.

I think the 9ers are making the right call on Franklin. We need him, but I dont trust him. I think he's gonna sign a big contract and cost.

I agree. I think AF will come at a high cost. I'd rather let another team over pay for him. It's not like he's in his prime of his career. i believe he's peaked as high as he could peak. not much more to get out of him.
I think signing baas & smith would be the best moves.

dont forget about RayMac

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by GEEK:
I agree with the 49ers philosophy to wait until actual free agency begins for right now.
It seems like guys like Aubrayo Franklin and David Baas are more valuable to us rather than other teams.

Franklin is strictly a one-gap 3-4 NT, and a 2-3 year solution at the position at best. In addition, the majority of 3-4 defenses already have their franchise NTs in place. The Texans and Bills are the biggest threats from the 49ers keeping Franklin - specifically the Texans as they are a playoff caliber team now.

At the same time, teams like the Texans and Bills may opt to go young and start the development process early.

And if we do lose Franklin, we do have Jean-Francois and Sopoaga that can play the position.

So I see it as a matter of retaining Franklin at the right price. And the 49ers can only figure that out once free agency starts.

Gotta watch the Redskins also. I believe they would easily over pay Franklin as there 3-4 d line is in dire need.

Very true. Although I don't know if they want to bite on paying a large contract to another d-lineman after the Haynesworth fiasco rather than developing someone young, and letting that young guy rotate with Kemoeatu.

I think the 9ers are making the right call on Franklin. We need him, but I dont trust him. I think he's gonna sign a big contract and cost.

I agree. I think AF will come at a high cost. I'd rather let another team over pay for him. It's not like he's in his prime of his career. i believe he's peaked as high as he could peak. not much more to get out of him.
I think signing baas & smith would be the best moves.

To be fair, Franklin has less wear and tear as he's only started for the past 4 years.

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by GEEK:
I agree with the 49ers philosophy to wait until actual free agency begins for right now.
It seems like guys like Aubrayo Franklin and David Baas are more valuable to us rather than other teams.

Franklin is strictly a one-gap 3-4 NT, and a 2-3 year solution at the position at best. In addition, the majority of 3-4 defenses already have their franchise NTs in place. The Texans and Bills are the biggest threats from the 49ers keeping Franklin - specifically the Texans as they are a playoff caliber team now.

At the same time, teams like the Texans and Bills may opt to go young and start the development process early.

And if we do lose Franklin, we do have Jean-Francois and Sopoaga that can play the position.

So I see it as a matter of retaining Franklin at the right price. And the 49ers can only figure that out once free agency starts.

Gotta watch the Redskins also. I believe they would easily over pay Franklin as there 3-4 d line is in dire need.

Very true. Although I don't know if they want to bite on paying a large contract to another d-lineman after the Haynesworth fiasco rather than developing someone young, and letting that young guy rotate with Kemoeatu.

I think the 9ers are making the right call on Franklin. We need him, but I dont trust him. I think he's gonna sign a big contract and cost.

I agree. I think AF will come at a high cost. I'd rather let another team over pay for him. It's not like he's in his prime of his career. i believe he's peaked as high as he could peak. not much more to get out of him.
I think signing baas & smith would be the best moves.

To be fair, Franklin has less wear and tear as he's only started for the past 4 years.

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Franklin was a backup in Baltimore. A lot of miles left IMO. That being said, we should not overpay.