No Fodder Only Substance - My 2010 49er off-season guide | Page 2

waiting4number6 · 2010-01-28T00:32:14-08:00

No Jimmy Clausen's or Marcus McNeil's, in other words no overrated players that we shouldn't have anything to do with. This 2010 Niner Off-Season Player Guide is about the best you'll find. The players that are listed would seriously help our team (not counting the you never know complex of the NFL rookie). The players not listed are ones we don't need like MLB's and Centers for example, players in the Draft that are at a position where we should draft lower, or players in free agency that will barring a dumb move by another team will be re-signed by their current team. Enjoy and I hope I'm not alone in saying I can't wait till the off-season? Gosh I miss the miss the Playoffs... Any player you think I left out, shout 'em out! Free Agency QB - Jason Campbell, Kyle Orton, Troy Smith, David Carr, Matt Moore, AJ Feeley All these options are better than the QB's we have minus maybe Smith and/or Feeley. RB - Leon Washington, Darren Sproles, Jerious Norwood, Willie Parker The only RB we need is a home run hitter who has lightning speed FB - LeRon McClain, Lawrence Vickers, Both are serious upgrades to Norris, McClain is the best FB in the NFL and Vickers has All-Pro talent. WR - Courtney Roby, Michael Jenkins, David Clowney Roby would solidify our return game and Jenkins and Clowney would give our WR corps a much needed deep threat. TE - Tony Scheffler, Brandon Manumaleuna, Jeff King, Alex Smith, Alge Crumpler Scheffler would be a great upgrade over Walker and then we could just go 2 WR 2 TE sets all day and Crabtree 2TE sets when we go power football, the others would give us the one dimensional blocking TE we need as a 3rd TE. LT - Jamaal Brown, Donald Penn Getting either guy would make Staley shift over to RT and we would automatically have one of the best tackle tandems in the NFL. LG - Daryn Colledge, Logan Mankins, Rich Seubert In terms of the run blocking Colledge and Mankins would be an upgrade over Baas, Seubert would make the pass blocking game better, and getting Mankins in here would give us one of the best LG's in the League. RG - Harvey Dahl, Bobbie Williams, Chris Snee, Max Jean-Gilles, Nick Cole The first three would be serious upgrades over Rachal, and the last 2 would be great backups which we need, Wragge is our only dependable back-up G. RT - Tyson Clabo, Jeremy Trueblood, Jamaal Brown This was our biggest weakness last season on the O-line, any of these three guys would solidify the book ends on the line, with Staley on the other line, thus erasing the RT problem. DE - Marcus Spears, Barry Cofield, Tony Brown, Anthony Montgomery, Justin Bannan The first 3 would be thrown in to compete with Sopoaga to start, Coefield, and the last 2 would be excellent back-up rotational guys for us. OLB - Julius Peppers, Aaron Kampman Getting that dominate pass rushing OLB would be the last piece to the puzzle in terms of making this an elite defense, Peppers would be great, but assuming Kampman comes back healthy next year he wouldn't be a bad choice either. CB - Richard Marshall, Carlos Rodgers, Dunta Robinson, Tramon Williams, Shawn Springs, Leigh Bodden The first 3 would be great as number 2 corners, and maybe even motivate Clements for the #1 spot, the last 2 would be excellent slot guys for us. FS - Antonie Bethea, OJ Atogwe If we got that big play safety we've longed for ever since Merton Hanks left for Seattle, like Bethea or Atogwe, we could move Goldson to SS granted he's a decent FS, but SS is best suited for him. SS - Dawan Landry, Gerald Sensabaugh, Bernard Pollard, Roman Harpef All these guys would be solid for us to start and ease the pressure off Lewis, assuming we keep Goldson at FS. K- Stephen Gostkowski, Garrett Hartley Either guy would be great to replace Nedney even though he can still probably kick for us for another year or 2, but just in case both our reliable and have strong legs. Draft QB - Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow Since it's an uncapped year, we could sign a decent QB to start for us immediately and groom one of these 2 guys to be the QB of the future. RB - Jahvid Best, Joe McKnight, Dexter McCluster All we need is speed. WR - Jordan Shipley, Taylor Price, Brandon Banks Shipley and Price would be great in the slot, and Shipley and Banks would be great to step in to be our return ace on special teams. RT - Trent Williams, Bryan Bulaga, Mike Iupati, Anthony Davis, Vladimir Ducasse The first 2 look to be sure fire starters from year one in the NFL, while Davis is the mauling RT we wanted ever since Coach Sing stepped in, Iupati has been pegged to have NFL starting talent at both LG and RG spots being also able to play at C and RT, and Ducasse could be a gem with great strength and surprising agility who played left tackle in college. G - Mike Iupati, Vladimir Ducasse, Jon Asamoah, Brandon Carter, John Jerry, Marshall Newhouse Iupati has great quickness for a guard he could play either guard spot, while Ducasse is the small school version of Iupati, and the other 4 would be hopefull future starters, barring an un-forseen steal. NT - Terrence Cody, Torrell Troup, Cam Thomas Since Balmer at this moment in time looks to be a bust and Sopoaga is better at DE, these three, especially Cody would be great backups to Franklin, assuming we keep him. OLB - Sergio Kindle, Eric Norwood, Jerry Hughes, Jason Worllds, Austen Lane, George Selvie The first three would be the hope to give us that dominate pass rushing OLB we need to be consistent in our efforts of getting to the opposing QB, the last 3 would be diamond in the rough hopefuls. CB - Kyle Wilson, Javier Arenas, Alterraun Verner, Perrish Cox, Dominique Franks, Patrick Robinson, Jerome Murphy With the money were paying Clements and the talent that is still there to boot, we just need a ball hawk to replace Bly/Harris and a possible improvement, we don't need to take a CB that early, Wilson and Arenas is the best cover guy not named Joe Haden coming out, while Verner is the most underrated CB in the draft, while those last 4 especially Cox and Robinson could be pleasant surprises. FS - Eric Berry, Morgan Burnett, Nate Allen If Berry some how fell or we traded up to get him barring a Michael Huff like bust career, he is our FS for the next decade, Burnett and Allen are more imposing safeties with their size, although they don't have Berry's speed or quickness, they don't look to break down or get shredded in deep coverage and may prove to be talented deep safeties at the pro level. Honorable Mentions - QB Michael Vick, QB Kevin Kolb, SS Kerry Rhodes - Vick and Kolb would both be upgrades at the QB spot, and Rhodes would make a heck of a partnership with Goldson at the 2 safety spots.

Jan 29, 2010 at 9:57 PM

#16

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Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
McNeil is not overrated. LOL. But the rest looks alright.

How is he not overrated? He's the softest 330 pound O-lineman I've ever seen. To say he's digressed is an understatement. The guy is about about as tough as a throw pillow.

He was fighting back injuries all year. Rivers doesn't throw up those gaudy numbers cause his left tackle sucks. LOL.

The have a 300 pound TE, along with Tolbert and Hester when Rivers goes back to throw cuz Turner knows he has one of the softest O-lines in the NFL. I don't think I remember a team that threw that much to continuing to put extra guys back to protect their QB on passing downs, and what made it even worse is they couldn't run the ball a lick because their O-line was so soft, especially McNeil. The only team I advise to talk a high priced flier on McNeil is the Packers because they through so much and A-Rod is tough enough to take some hits here and there, McNeil isn't horrible, but boy is he soft and well overrated.

No they couldn't run the ball because there starters only play 4 games together all year. They were pounded by injuries this year and still made the playoffs. McNiel had a down year that's for sure but he definitely isn't overrated.

If you can get bull rushed by Elvis Freaking Dumervil let alone the fact he had the 300 pound TE, Tolbert LT or Hester help out on the majority on 3rd down pass plays
your soft. They couldn't run their O-line healthy or not is soft, Dielman shouldn't of been near the Pro Bowl, Hardwick was the only guy the missed and as decent as the center is even when he came back they still had the same soft problems. Jake Scott someone who should of made the should of made the Pro Bowl is under 300 pounds and he's more powerful then he is, hell VD looks plays like he has more power than McNeil.

Jan 29, 2010 at 10:38 PM

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This was so f**king terrible. Do you have a time machine so I can go back 2 minutes? f**k.

Jan 30, 2010 at 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
McNeil is not overrated. LOL. But the rest looks alright.

How is he not overrated? He's the softest 330 pound O-lineman I've ever seen. To say he's digressed is an understatement. The guy is about about as tough as a throw pillow.

He was fighting back injuries all year. Rivers doesn't throw up those gaudy numbers cause his left tackle sucks. LOL.

The have a 300 pound TE, along with Tolbert and Hester when Rivers goes back to throw cuz Turner knows he has one of the softest O-lines in the NFL. I don't think I remember a team that threw that much to continuing to put extra guys back to protect their QB on passing downs, and what made it even worse is they couldn't run the ball a lick because their O-line was so soft, especially McNeil. The only team I advise to talk a high priced flier on McNeil is the Packers because they through so much and A-Rod is tough enough to take some hits here and there, McNeil isn't horrible, but boy is he soft and well overrated.

No they couldn't run the ball because there starters only play 4 games together all year. They were pounded by injuries this year and still made the playoffs. McNiel had a down year that's for sure but he definitely isn't overrated.

If you can get bull rushed by Elvis Freaking Dumervil let alone the fact he had the 300 pound TE, Tolbert LT or Hester help out on the majority on 3rd down pass plays
your soft. They couldn't run their O-line healthy or not is soft, Dielman shouldn't of been near the Pro Bowl, Hardwick was the only guy the missed and as decent as the center is even when he came back they still had the same soft problems. Jake Scott someone who should of made the should of made the Pro Bowl is under 300 pounds and he's more powerful then he is, hell VD looks plays like he has more power than McNeil.

LOL. He rarely had help and Clary was out for significant time. Hardwick and Vasquez were out for significant time also. You don't have a clue what you are saying. Move on. McNiel isn't overrated, your self proclamation of knowledge is. Not trying to make it personal but get your facts straight.

Jan 30, 2010 at 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by Method:
This was so f**king terrible. Do you have a time machine so I can go back 2 minutes? f**k.

How was it so horrible?

Jan 30, 2010 at 1:03 AM

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Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
McNeil is not overrated. LOL. But the rest looks alright.

How is he not overrated? He's the softest 330 pound O-lineman I've ever seen. To say he's digressed is an understatement. The guy is about about as tough as a throw pillow.

He was fighting back injuries all year. Rivers doesn't throw up those gaudy numbers cause his left tackle sucks. LOL.

The have a 300 pound TE, along with Tolbert and Hester when Rivers goes back to throw cuz Turner knows he has one of the softest O-lines in the NFL. I don't think I remember a team that threw that much to continuing to put extra guys back to protect their QB on passing downs, and what made it even worse is they couldn't run the ball a lick because their O-line was so soft, especially McNeil. The only team I advise to talk a high priced flier on McNeil is the Packers because they through so much and A-Rod is tough enough to take some hits here and there, McNeil isn't horrible, but boy is he soft and well overrated.

No they couldn't run the ball because there starters only play 4 games together all year. They were pounded by injuries this year and still made the playoffs. McNiel had a down year that's for sure but he definitely isn't overrated.

If you can get bull rushed by Elvis Freaking Dumervil let alone the fact he had the 300 pound TE, Tolbert LT or Hester help out on the majority on 3rd down pass plays
your soft. They couldn't run their O-line healthy or not is soft, Dielman shouldn't of been near the Pro Bowl, Hardwick was the only guy the missed and as decent as the center is even when he came back they still had the same soft problems. Jake Scott someone who should of made the should of made the Pro Bowl is under 300 pounds and he's more powerful then he is, hell VD looks plays like he has more power than McNeil.

LOL. He rarely had help and Clary was out for significant time. Hardwick and Vasquez were out for significant time also. You don't have a clue what you are saying. Move on. McNiel isn't overrated, your self proclamation of knowledge is. Not trying to make it personal but get your facts straight.

He didn't have help??? How many times did they 3 let alone 4 or 5 wide, rarely, one cuz their 3, 4, and 5 WR's aren't that good, 2 cuz their O-line is so soft, our RT sucks when Staley was healthy he still held his own pretty well, apparently Marcus is your brother or your related to him in some way. Or you just one of those well he's a big name or a name on a big team, this is why we have people like Leonard Davis, Antawan Rolle, Quinton Mikell, Terrence Newman, Mike Jenkins making the Pro Bowl. People go for the big names wayy too much, that's why the title of this thing is no fodder there's too much of it. I mean Vernon Davis wouldn't get bull rushed by Dumervil and he's a 265 pound TE, McNeil is 330. I mean what is Chad Clifton mad good too cuz A-Rod proved he's a top 5 QB this year? I mean jeez the guy is soft, admit it he makes Joe Staley look like John Hannah.

Jan 30, 2010 at 1:08 AM

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Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
McNeil is not overrated. LOL. But the rest looks alright.

How is he not overrated? He's the softest 330 pound O-lineman I've ever seen. To say he's digressed is an understatement. The guy is about about as tough as a throw pillow.

He was fighting back injuries all year. Rivers doesn't throw up those gaudy numbers cause his left tackle sucks. LOL.

The have a 300 pound TE, along with Tolbert and Hester when Rivers goes back to throw cuz Turner knows he has one of the softest O-lines in the NFL. I don't think I remember a team that threw that much to continuing to put extra guys back to protect their QB on passing downs, and what made it even worse is they couldn't run the ball a lick because their O-line was so soft, especially McNeil. The only team I advise to talk a high priced flier on McNeil is the Packers because they through so much and A-Rod is tough enough to take some hits here and there, McNeil isn't horrible, but boy is he soft and well overrated.

No they couldn't run the ball because there starters only play 4 games together all year. They were pounded by injuries this year and still made the playoffs. McNiel had a down year that's for sure but he definitely isn't overrated.

If you can get bull rushed by Elvis Freaking Dumervil let alone the fact he had the 300 pound TE, Tolbert LT or Hester help out on the majority on 3rd down pass plays
your soft. They couldn't run their O-line healthy or not is soft, Dielman shouldn't of been near the Pro Bowl, Hardwick was the only guy the missed and as decent as the center is even when he came back they still had the same soft problems. Jake Scott someone who should of made the should of made the Pro Bowl is under 300 pounds and he's more powerful then he is, hell VD looks plays like he has more power than McNeil.

LOL. He rarely had help and Clary was out for significant time. Hardwick and Vasquez were out for significant time also. You don't have a clue what you are saying. Move on. McNiel isn't overrated, your self proclamation of knowledge is. Not trying to make it personal but get your facts straight.

He didn't have help??? How many times did they 3 let alone 4 or 5 wide, rarely, one cuz their 3, 4, and 5 WR's aren't that good, 2 cuz their O-line is so soft, our RT sucks when Staley was healthy he still held his own pretty well, apparently Marcus is your brother or your related to him in some way. Or you just one of those well he's a big name or a name on a big team, this is why we have people like Leonard Davis, Antawan Rolle, Quinton Mikell, Terrence Newman, Mike Jenkins making the Pro Bowl. People go for the big names wayy too much, that's why the title of this thing is no fodder there's too much of it. I mean Vernon Davis wouldn't get bull rushed by Dumervil and he's a 265 pound TE, McNeil is 330. I mean what is Chad Clifton mad good too cuz A-Rod proved he's a top 5 QB this year? I mean jeez the guy is soft, admit it he makes Joe Staley look like John Hannah.

oK.