2013 San Francisco Giants Thread

Originally posted by valrod33:

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 8m The #Dodgers have now moved ahead and are the frontrunner to sign Brian Wilson

He's dead to me

Originally posted by valrod33:
Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 8m The #Dodgers have now moved ahead and are the frontrunner to sign Brian Wilson

Meh, does it matter anyway, we're tanking

Originally posted by teeohh:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 8m The #Dodgers have now moved ahead and are the frontrunner to sign Brian Wilson

He's dead to me

Meh, he was dead to me already. If a guy isn't on my team in some capacity, I have no ties to him.

Originally posted by Niners99:
The original "point" of triples alley was to offset the fact that the RF wall was so close. When they designed the "splash hit" idea, they wanted it to be a common thing they could make the stadiums' trademark. What nobody knew until after we started playing baseball there, was that the winds wrap around the stadium and blow inward towards the field, knocking down almost anything hit that direction.

Our stadium is a pitchers park. We build our team around it, and weve won 3 pennants and 2 WS playing there in just 13 seasons. Its part of what makes AT&T Park unique. It is such a beautifully designed stadium. There are drawbacks to the 421 power alley, and then there are advantages. Teams who bring the fences in only do so because they know offense sells more tickets than pitching. More home runs boost attendance.

Not only would cutting off triples alley look ugly, but it would take away from the character of the park.

Like I said before, the Giants should focus more on scouting their hitters better, not blaming the lack of offense on the park dimensions. Besides, the visiting team gets "AT&T'd" just as often, if not more often than the Giants do. The Giants have 63 splash hits, and opposing teams have only 29. Even if you took away all the ones hit by Bonds, its dead even.

Im not sure people realize how much of an advantage the dimensions give us. Not just to Giants pitchers, who know how to use the dead part of the yard to their advantage, but also to opposing RF who are unfamiliar with playing the bricks and gap. How many times have we seen visiting teams screw something up on defense out there?

Its not a HR hitters yard, and neither was Candlestick. Its the best stadium in baseball, and theres no need to mess with it. If we pulled the walls in, every time an opposing player hit a ball out to right center, youd be saying "that wouldve been an out!" Just the look on the faces of the other team after they CRUSH a ball, and it gets caught, is worth it. Especially teams who play in bandboxes.

So in summary, you cant change the wind, which is the real culprit. The Giants need to scout better hitters than wont need to use the dimensions as an excuse. And the fans should stop whining about the nicest park in the Big Leagues.

Good points 99.

I just hate seeing guys like Belt or Pence or anyone on our team CRUSH balls and have them be caught because of the dimensions. It sucks.

Originally posted by Garcia:

Originally posted by Niners99:
The original "point" of triples alley was to offset the fact that the RF wall was so close. When they designed the "splash hit" idea, they wanted it to be a common thing they could make the stadiums' trademark. What nobody knew until after we started playing baseball there, was that the winds wrap around the stadium and blow inward towards the field, knocking down almost anything hit that direction.

Our stadium is a pitchers park. We build our team around it, and weve won 3 pennants and 2 WS playing there in just 13 seasons. Its part of what makes AT&T Park unique. It is such a beautifully designed stadium. There are drawbacks to the 421 power alley, and then there are advantages. Teams who bring the fences in only do so because they know offense sells more tickets than pitching. More home runs boost attendance.

Not only would cutting off triples alley look ugly, but it would take away from the character of the park.

Like I said before, the Giants should focus more on scouting their hitters better, not blaming the lack of offense on the park dimensions. Besides, the visiting team gets "AT&T'd" just as often, if not more often than the Giants do. The Giants have 63 splash hits, and opposing teams have only 29. Even if you took away all the ones hit by Bonds, its dead even.

Im not sure people realize how much of an advantage the dimensions give us. Not just to Giants pitchers, who know how to use the dead part of the yard to their advantage, but also to opposing RF who are unfamiliar with playing the bricks and gap. How many times have we seen visiting teams screw something up on defense out there?

Its not a HR hitters yard, and neither was Candlestick. Its the best stadium in baseball, and theres no need to mess with it. If we pulled the walls in, every time an opposing player hit a ball out to right center, youd be saying "that wouldve been an out!" Just the look on the faces of the other team after they CRUSH a ball, and it gets caught, is worth it. Especially teams who play in bandboxes.

So in summary, you cant change the wind, which is the real culprit. The Giants need to scout better hitters than wont need to use the dimensions as an excuse. And the fans should stop whining about the nicest park in the Big Leagues.

Good points 99.

I just hate seeing guys like Belt or Pence or anyone on our team CRUSH balls and have them be caught because of the dimensions. It sucks.

But I bet you dont mind when opposing hitters crush them and they are caught. Every starter we have is more of a fly ball out pitcher than ground ball out. Matt Cain, in particular, benefits from our park.

Brian Wilson=dead to me.

SAN JOSE, CA - 07/29/2013 8:03 PM ET - San Jose Giants right-handed pitcher Clayton Blackburn was named California League Pitcher of the Week for the week ending on July 28. In Lancaster on Thursday night, Blackburn threw eight innings and allowed just one run on three hits in the Giants' 4-3 victory over the Jethawks. The right-hander carried a perfect game into the seventh inning, retired 20 straight hitters to begin his start, walked none and struck out six while throwing just 83 pitches.

Selected by the San Francisco Giants in the 16th round of the 2011 draft, Blackburn was 8-4 with a 2.54 ERA last season for the Single-A Augusta GreenJackets. This season, he holds a 4.02 ERA and opponents are batting just .223 against him.

Originally posted by valrod33:

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 8m The #Dodgers have now moved ahead and are the frontrunner to sign Brian Wilson

benedict beard

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

SAN JOSE, CA - 07/29/2013 8:03 PM ET - San Jose Giants right-handed pitcher Clayton Blackburn was named California League Pitcher of the Week for the week ending on July 28. In Lancaster on Thursday night, Blackburn threw eight innings and allowed just one run on three hits in the Giants' 4-3 victory over the Jethawks. The right-hander carried a perfect game into the seventh inning, retired 20 straight hitters to begin his start, walked none and struck out six while throwing just 83 pitches.

Selected by the San Francisco Giants in the 16th round of the 2011 draft, Blackburn was 8-4 with a 2.54 ERA last season for the Single-A Augusta GreenJackets. This season, he holds a 4.02 ERA and opponents are batting just .223 against him.

his era is still high.

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

SAN JOSE, CA - 07/29/2013 8:03 PM ET - San Jose Giants right-handed pitcher Clayton Blackburn was named California League Pitcher of the Week for the week ending on July 28. In Lancaster on Thursday night, Blackburn threw eight innings and allowed just one run on three hits in the Giants' 4-3 victory over the Jethawks. The right-hander carried a perfect game into the seventh inning, retired 20 straight hitters to begin his start, walked none and struck out six while throwing just 83 pitches.

Selected by the San Francisco Giants in the 16th round of the 2011 draft, Blackburn was 8-4 with a 2.54 ERA last season for the Single-A Augusta GreenJackets. This season, he holds a 4.02 ERA and opponents are batting just .223 against him.

his era is still high.

Not really, for his age and the league he's in. He's 7th overall in Cal League ERA and he's 2-4 years younger than the 6 guys ahead of him. More importantly, it's about trending...in 4 July starts, he's 2-0 with a 1.73 ERA, 25 Ks, only 3 walks and the league is hitting .170 against him. That's 4 months into the season!

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

SAN JOSE, CA - 07/29/2013 8:03 PM ET - San Jose Giants right-handed pitcher Clayton Blackburn was named California League Pitcher of the Week for the week ending on July 28. In Lancaster on Thursday night, Blackburn threw eight innings and allowed just one run on three hits in the Giants' 4-3 victory over the Jethawks. The right-hander carried a perfect game into the seventh inning, retired 20 straight hitters to begin his start, walked none and struck out six while throwing just 83 pitches.

Selected by the San Francisco Giants in the 16th round of the 2011 draft, Blackburn was 8-4 with a 2.54 ERA last season for the Single-A Augusta GreenJackets. This season, he holds a 4.02 ERA and opponents are batting just .223 against him.

his era is still high.

Doesn't matter as much in A ball IMO. His K/9 (9.87) and K/BB (4.34:1) ratios are fantastic. Not bad for a 16th round pick.

Originally posted by valrod33:
Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 8m The #Dodgers have now moved ahead and are the frontrunner to sign Brian Wilson

hopefully he throws out his arm again

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

SAN JOSE, CA - 07/29/2013 8:03 PM ET - San Jose Giants right-handed pitcher Clayton Blackburn was named California League Pitcher of the Week for the week ending on July 28. In Lancaster on Thursday night, Blackburn threw eight innings and allowed just one run on three hits in the Giants' 4-3 victory over the Jethawks. The right-hander carried a perfect game into the seventh inning, retired 20 straight hitters to begin his start, walked none and struck out six while throwing just 83 pitches.

Selected by the San Francisco Giants in the 16th round of the 2011 draft, Blackburn was 8-4 with a 2.54 ERA last season for the Single-A Augusta GreenJackets. This season, he holds a 4.02 ERA and opponents are batting just .223 against him.

his era is still high.

Doesn't matter as much in A ball IMO. His K/9 (9.87) and K/BB (4.34:1) ratios are fantastic. Not bad for a 16th round pick.

Very good WHIP too (1.08), and he's the 5th youngest pitcher/4th youngest starter in the CL.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
But I bet you dont mind when opposing hitters crush them and they are caught. Every starter we have is more of a fly ball out pitcher than ground ball out. Matt Cain, in particular, benefits from our park.

Good pitching is good pitching no matter what ballpark. Thats how I see it.
Cain this year has a home ERA of 5.26 and an away ERA of 4.27

It happens in no other ball park, 420ft outs, and frankly Im just tried of it. I heard a suggestion instead of bringing in the fences moving home plut up 10 ft or so. That would be interesting. Keep the same dimension but CF would be 394 instead 404, seems a bit more reasonable to me. You would still have to hit the ball over 400ft in RCF for a HR.

But to counterbalance the offensive advantage you have a bit more foul territory.

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

SAN JOSE, CA - 07/29/2013 8:03 PM ET - San Jose Giants right-handed pitcher Clayton Blackburn was named California League Pitcher of the Week for the week ending on July 28. In Lancaster on Thursday night, Blackburn threw eight innings and allowed just one run on three hits in the Giants' 4-3 victory over the Jethawks. The right-hander carried a perfect game into the seventh inning, retired 20 straight hitters to begin his start, walked none and struck out six while throwing just 83 pitches.

Selected by the San Francisco Giants in the 16th round of the 2011 draft, Blackburn was 8-4 with a 2.54 ERA last season for the Single-A Augusta GreenJackets. This season, he holds a 4.02 ERA and opponents are batting just .223 against him.

his era is still high.

Doesn't matter as much in A ball IMO. His K/9 (9.87) and K/BB (4.34:1) ratios are fantastic. Not bad for a 16th round pick.

Very good WHIP too (1.08), and he's the 5th youngest pitcher/4th youngest starter in the CL.

OK, good. Everything else looks good to me. How come they don't promote him to Richmond yet?