You can't say he is only as good as an UDFA, in the same breath say he is not as good as a 4 x All Pro.
Make up your mind
[ Edited by JaGuR on Nov 30, 2020 at 8:52 PM ]
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Mitch Wishnowsky - Punter (Utah) is a 49er
Nov 30, 2020 at 8:51 PM
- JaGuR
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Comparing Wish with an UDFA 4 x All Pro makes no sense.
You can't say he is only as good as an UDFA, in the same breath say he is not as good as a 4 x All Pro.
Make up your mind
You can't say he is only as good as an UDFA, in the same breath say he is not as good as a 4 x All Pro.
Make up your mind
Nov 30, 2020 at 9:06 PM
- Oilcan
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Originally posted by JaGuR:Comparing Wish with an UDFA 4 x All Pro makes no sense.
You can't say he is only as good as an UDFA, in the same breath say he is not as good as a 4 x All Pro.
Make up your mind
Wasn't it you that compared them ?
And I think the point is you don't have to draft a punter that high to get a good one.
Nov 30, 2020 at 9:10 PM
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Originally posted by JaGuR:Comparing Wish with an UDFA 4 x All Pro makes no sense.
You can't say he is only as good as an UDFA, in the same breath say he is not as good as a 4 x All Pro.
Make up your mind
Can we compare Mitch to Jack Fox? Same draft year. Wasn't even on a NFL roster last year. And stating getting the same production from a 4th round pick as an UDFA isn't acceptable to some isn't being indecisive.
Nov 30, 2020 at 9:12 PM
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I have no problem with Wish - this year or last year with what he's showed. So he was drafted in the 4th, so what. The hit rate on 4th Rounders isn't so great. He's a good punter IMO. I'd like him to kick every KO into the back of the end zone as he has a strong leg...not sure what happens there sometimes unless they're trying to trap the other team into poor starting field position. One other area where Wish has been good: holding for Gould.
[ Edited by LottDMontanaO on Nov 30, 2020 at 9:54 PM ]
Nov 30, 2020 at 9:19 PM
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and Wish can play Mike in a pinch
Nov 30, 2020 at 11:57 PM
- KeepRabbitsOut
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Not trade down with the Bengals and have selected my draft crush CGJ
I hate it when that happens. You needed to be closer to the scouts. Who ya got for the next draft?
Dec 1, 2020 at 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
is 2 yards worth drafting a punter in the 4th rather than signing a UDFA?
In a game of inches....could be. But there is so much more to the position than a simplistic metric like that. The niners are so defensive that shnouser cant imo bring as much to contribute than a more skilled punter. Hence the comparison many have to UDFA punters.
Dec 1, 2020 at 2:28 AM
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My point is he is performing, if he wasn't then have your whinge.
He is currently number 6 punter in the league for punting average.
49ers seen him as a low risk pick at round 4.
How many low risk picks outside of Wish at punter do you think they could have taken ?
It is a crap shoot, gamble.
Wish was not a gamble, he is as advertised.
He is currently number 6 punter in the league for punting average.
49ers seen him as a low risk pick at round 4.
How many low risk picks outside of Wish at punter do you think they could have taken ?
It is a crap shoot, gamble.
Wish was not a gamble, he is as advertised.
[ Edited by JaGuR on Dec 1, 2020 at 2:29 AM ]
Dec 1, 2020 at 3:22 AM
- KeepRabbitsOut
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Originally posted by JaGuR:
My point is he is performing, if he wasn't then have your whinge.
He is currently number 6 punter in the league for punting average.
49ers seen him as a low risk pick at round 4.
How many low risk picks outside of Wish at punter do you think they could have taken ?
It is a crap shoot, gamble.
Wish was not a gamble, he is as advertised.
Also ranks similar in nett yards gained. Higher in yards returned per returned punt. Well above average (top 10) for % inside 20.
His stats have improved this season.
Irief was right about spinning it back though. 1 blocked punt is not entirely on him.
Except for a few trick plays there aren't that many highlights from this position group this season. The league seems risk averse especially when the team is low on starters.
Dec 1, 2020 at 3:30 AM
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How does a punter get 203 pages? 
Dec 1, 2020 at 3:56 AM
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Originally posted by mayo49:How does a punter get 203 pages?
Because he was drafted in the 4th round
[ Edited by JaGuR on Dec 1, 2020 at 3:56 AM ]
Dec 1, 2020 at 6:24 AM
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To me this is easy.
Is Wish a good punter? Yes
Was he worth a 4th round pick? No
That may come in time, but let's be honest, we've made worse draft choices.
Is Wish a good punter? Yes
Was he worth a 4th round pick? No
That may come in time, but let's be honest, we've made worse draft choices.
Dec 1, 2020 at 7:45 AM
- Hysterikal
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:To me this is easy.
Is Wish a good punter? Yes
Was he worth a 4th round pick? No
That may come in time, but let's be honest, we've made worse draft choices.
100% Ahkello, Joe Williams and Dante were much worst picks.
Dec 1, 2020 at 2:39 PM
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:Was he worth a 4th round pick?
He was to SF, and i doubt they are regretting the pick.
Which in the end is all that matters.
Like you said, i think they like that 4th round pick more then a lot of the others.
[ Edited by JaGuR on Dec 1, 2020 at 2:40 PM ]
Dec 1, 2020 at 2:45 PM
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:100% Ahkello, Joe Williams and Dante were much worst picks.
Reuben Foster, maybe even Solomon Thomas could be a worse pick.