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Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson - Legit alternative to Jared Goff in 2017?

Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
I know you guys are just joking about his mom, but she had to have her tongue removed for the most part during cancer treatment. He is definitely a mama's boy in the best way possible haha. First in his family to get a college degree.

Oh Dang! Well now I'm the a*****e...
Although Watson won his second straight Davey O'Brien Award as the nation's most outstanding QB this season, he ended up second behind Jackson in the Heisman voting. And the O'Brien-Heisman split — "best quarterback" vs. "best player" — is pretty much the heart of Watson's rivalry with Jackson.

In the traditional sense of the QB role, Watson was probably a better pure passer than Jackson this season. Watson threw for 524 more yards, had a higher passing efficiency rating (according to the NCAA's formula) and contributed many more expected points added (EPA) in the air than Jackson did. More to the point, Watson had a vastly superior completion percentage (68 percent to 58 percent), threw fewer of his passes off-target (11 percent vs. 15 percent), and was notably better in the short-to-intermediate passing game. He beat Jackson in Total QBR (81.2 to 76.9) on passes that traveled 15 or fewer yards through the air — plays that accounted for about three-quarters of each QB's total attempts — and a higher percentage of Watson's passing yards also came after his receivers caught the ball, a healthy indicator in the type of quick-passing game Clemson employs.

As a result of all that controlled passing, Clemson's aerial attack was more efficient than Louisville's this year. The Tigers ranked fifth among Power Five conference teams in passing EPA, piling up about 40 percent more expected points per game via the pass than the 12th-ranked Cardinals.




http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-deshaun-watson-better-than-lamar-jackson-depends-on-what-skills-you-value/
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
His mom's smile looks like a scowl. No wonder he's tough.

Dude's received an ass whoopin a time or two for sure.

Yeah, with a shoe, or a wooden spoon, or a switch...

She doesn't like the type of mom who's content to just smack you with a hand. Of course, my mom looked like one of the nice gentle moms, and she whupped my with my own shoe in a K-Mart.
in reality she's probably the nicest woman on the block, which drives him to be great

Maybe it's already been mentioned here, but she's also a single parent who scrapped to get them a Habitat for Humanity home.
Its Watson time to shine, who is by many scouts the most ready to start day 1 we shall see how he handles pressure. Trubisky didn't do well 3 turnovers.
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Originally posted by 49er_Rider:
Its Watson time to shine, who is by many scouts the most ready to start day 1 we shall see how he handles pressure. Trubisky didn't do well 3 turnovers.

And he lost the game.
This is a decent breakdown of Watson and some throws he excels at making.


http://www.qbmecca.com/nfl-throws-deshaun-watson-edition/



Quick outs are far more difficult to throw than they look. Considering they are short five-or-six yard routes, it's easy to assume that because the throw isn't far down the field, that it isn't a difficult throw. The reality is quite the contrary. The angle from the quarterback's throwing position to where the ball needs to be is so tight that it leaves little room for error for the quarterback. It is a throw that requires great arm strength and exact ball placement, or else the defense might be running it back the other way.




This throw is automatic for Watson, yet few NFL quarterbacks throw it consistently well. Cam Newton and Tom Brady come to mind as the best quick out passers in the league. Newton works quick out so well due to his rare arm talent and decisiveness, while Brady makes it work because of impeccable timing and repeated accuracy. Watson's quick out ability is a blend of those two styles and, in due time, Watson should find himself among the best in the league at hitting this throw.

Being able to throw quick out at the level Watson does can work wonders for an offense. More often than not, offenses will turn to quick slants, drag routes, and short routes by the tight end to pick up small chunks of yardage because those throws are easier angles for the quarterback to throw.






Intermediate Comeback

Depending on where the sticks are, this could be a twelve-to-sixteen yard route. The goal for the wide receiver is to work the vertical stem of the route a few yards beyond the sticks, then turn to the sideline and diagonally work toward the boundary. By design, this route gives the cornerback the inside track on the ball, making this a dangerous throw for quarterbacks. A quarterback better be damn sure he is going to make the throw if he dares attempt it.







Much like the quick out, an intermediate comeback is unforgiving. If Watson leaves this passes a little bit inside or doesn't get enough juice on the ball, this could easily end in a drive-killing incompletion or interception.

Cornerbacks prey on this route to make big plays. Cornerbacks like Marcus Peters of the Chiefs will make quarterbacks pay for not perfectly throwing this route. Unfortunately for Peters and his peers, Watson so often drills this throw and makes it easy on his wide receiver to haul it in. Watson works these outside routes at an exceptional level. Not only is that a true barometer of arm strength, but it adds an extra lethal element to his offense that most offenses do not have the luxury of.

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
This is a decent breakdown of Watson and some throws he excels at making.


http://www.qbmecca.com/nfl-throws-deshaun-watson-edition/



Quick outs are far more difficult to throw than they look. Considering they are short five-or-six yard routes, it's easy to assume that because the throw isn't far down the field, that it isn't a difficult throw. The reality is quite the contrary. The angle from the quarterback's throwing position to where the ball needs to be is so tight that it leaves little room for error for the quarterback. It is a throw that requires great arm strength and exact ball placement, or else the defense might be running it back the other way.




This throw is automatic for Watson, yet few NFL quarterbacks throw it consistently well. Cam Newton and Tom Brady come to mind as the best quick out passers in the league. Newton works quick out so well due to his rare arm talent and decisiveness, while Brady makes it work because of impeccable timing and repeated accuracy. Watson's quick out ability is a blend of those two styles and, in due time, Watson should find himself among the best in the league at hitting this throw.

Being able to throw quick out at the level Watson does can work wonders for an offense. More often than not, offenses will turn to quick slants, drag routes, and short routes by the tight end to pick up small chunks of yardage because those throws are easier angles for the quarterback to throw.






Intermediate Comeback

Depending on where the sticks are, this could be a twelve-to-sixteen yard route. The goal for the wide receiver is to work the vertical stem of the route a few yards beyond the sticks, then turn to the sideline and diagonally work toward the boundary. By design, this route gives the cornerback the inside track on the ball, making this a dangerous throw for quarterbacks. A quarterback better be damn sure he is going to make the throw if he dares attempt it.







Much like the quick out, an intermediate comeback is unforgiving. If Watson leaves this passes a little bit inside or doesn't get enough juice on the ball, this could easily end in a drive-killing incompletion or interception.

Cornerbacks prey on this route to make big plays. Cornerbacks like Marcus Peters of the Chiefs will make quarterbacks pay for not perfectly throwing this route. Unfortunately for Peters and his peers, Watson so often drills this throw and makes it easy on his wide receiver to haul it in. Watson works these outside routes at an exceptional level. Not only is that a true barometer of arm strength, but it adds an extra lethal element to his offense that most offenses do not have the luxury of.

Of the 2016 qbs Watson is the most ready start day one. That means he won't have to sit for a season or two like trubinsky or kizer. If we do end up without any of the current qbs on the roster next season then it clearly makes Watson the better choice.
Originally posted by jcs:
Of the 2016 qbs Watson is the most ready start day one. That means he won't have to sit for a season or two like trubinsky or kizer. If we do end up without any of the current qbs on the roster next season then it clearly makes Watson the better choice.

The most ready but coming out of the simplest offense with almost exclusively half field reads. I wouldn't have him starting day one, or any of these QBs for that matter. They all should sit ideally.



Looking ahead, Watson has the talent to become a very good NFL quarterback, but he will need to go through a period of learning. It will take him some time to adjust to an NFL-style offense and learn to play in a full-field-read scheme. He will get drafted very high, but the worst thing that could happen to him is being forced to play early. He needs to sit and learn for a good part if not all of his rookie season. This will take him through the learning curve and prepare him for success. He will also need a quality quarterback coach and offensive coordinator. Many young quarterbacks fail because they are forced to play too soon and don't have the proper mentors around to guide them.


http://www.profootballweekly.com/2016/12/12/greg-gabriel-how-good-of-an-nfl-quarterback-can-clemsons-deshaun-watson-become/a98r6ax/
Originally posted by 49er_Rider:
Its Watson time to shine, who is by many scouts the most ready to start day 1 we shall see how he handles pressure. Trubisky didn't do well 3 turnovers.

Agree the most polish to start I like these bowl games it shows if they can handle the big stage.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
This is pretty cool. Graduating in 3 years.








where is his father ?

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Looking forward to seeing him play today
Originally posted by susweel:
where is his father ?

Why does he owe you money?
Originally posted by Tman:
Looking forward to seeing him play today

This. OSU has a very stout defense and this will be another good test for Watson. Kid is certainly battle tested, no doubt about that
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jcs:
Of the 2016 qbs Watson is the most ready start day one. That means he won't have to sit for a season or two like trubinsky or kizer. If we do end up without any of the current qbs on the roster next season then it clearly makes Watson the better choice.

The most ready but coming out of the simplest offense with almost exclusively half field reads. I wouldn't have him starting day one, or any of these QBs for that matter. They all should sit ideally.




Looking ahead, Watson has the talent to become a very good NFL quarterback, but he will need to go through a period of learning. It will take him some time to adjust to an NFL-style offense and learn to play in a full-field-read scheme. He will get drafted very high, but the worst thing that could happen to him is being forced to play early. He needs to sit and learn for a good part if not all of his rookie season. This will take him through the learning curve and prepare him for success. He will also need a quality quarterback coach and offensive coordinator. Many young quarterbacks fail because they are forced to play too soon and don't have the proper mentors around to guide them.


http://www.profootballweekly.com/2016/12/12/greg-gabriel-how-good-of-an-nfl-quarterback-can-clemsons-deshaun-watson-become/a98r6ax/

The bolded doesn't necessarily apply to Chip's offense. See him starting day one if we draft him.
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by Tman:
Looking forward to seeing him play today

This. OSU has a very stout defense and this will be another good test for Watson. Kid is certainly battle tested, no doubt about that

Yup, I'm rooting for the kid..
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