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Kyle Shanahan, DeMeco Ryans preview 49ers-Saints Week 12 matchup

Nov 23, 2022 at 5:30 PM--


San Francisco 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan and defensive coordinator DeMeco Ryans spoke with reporters as the team prepares for its Week 12 matchup against the New Orleans Saints. Here is everything they had to say.

Transcript provided by the San Francisco 49ers Communications staff.

Head Coach Kyle Shanahan


Opening Comments:

"Injuries for today. [DL] Arik Armstead won't practice, same, foot/ankle. [DL] Samson [Ebukam] will be limited with his quad/achilles and [T] Trent Williams, not injury related, won't practice. Go ahead."

Can you go over what was happening during the game as far as DB Jimmie Ward and CB Charvarius Ward and I guess LB Dre Greenlaw left as well. Was it just them being fatigued?

"Yeah, two guys were fatigued. I think Greenlaw jammed something and ran off and felt better."

When you do international travel, do you have the option of when to have your Bye Week?

"I don't think so. Yeah, because I think we'd choose right now."

What is the plan for this week? Will you dial it back some?

"Yeah, definitely and we've already dialed it back by pushing this day way back, we got in at like 6:15 a.m. on Tuesday, so we gave the players the whole day off. We had to get it going with the gameplan. We got a few extra hours this morning moving the stuff back, so we're starting a lot later and we'll just walk through today and we have to mix in Thanksgiving a little bit on Thursday, so we'll dial some things back for that also."

You bounce from Colorado Springs to Mexico and then come back on a short week. Does coming out of the altitude or the fact that you've been in this high altitude now, you're not in it anymore, is there any adjustment for that or is that just great?

"We can run forever now. I don't think it's that big. We weren't there long enough, but I think that's why Olympic people train up there, so you feel better. I used to always feel better working out over the summer in Denver and then going to Texas, it only lasted like three days though."

There's been a lot of QB Trey Lance sightings in recent days, recent weeks, where is he in his rehab and what's his week like? A typical week.

"It was cool just getting him to travel with this for the first time out in Colorado, so him being in every meeting and being able to go all those places with us and have him on the Saturday night meeting, or in this case the Sunday night meeting, before the game so we can go over all the third downs and red zone stuff, so now he's preparing like he's playing except for everything on the field."

Physically, where is he? Is he able to do anything?

"I don't think he's running. I know he is out of the boot, walking around well. I'm not sure exactly where he is at in that, but he's not going real hard at it yet."

I'm no expert, but he looks like he's walking pretty well. Is there any chance that if you guys go deep this season, that he could serve as a backup?

"I haven't been told there's a chance, so I think things would have to be pretty drastic. We weren't expecting that much from the beginning, I think he's right on schedule with everything, but I've not been told there's a chance."

General manager John Lynch was on the radio, he said that coming out of the Chargers game there was one missed tackle that entire game and it's as good as you guys have done since you guys have been here. And it looked pretty similar against Arizona, just specifically tackling, is this as good as you've seen your team?

"Yeah, definitely statistically and you feel that way on tape too. It's not just individually, but just guys swarming to the ball, the whole group, so it's very rare that there's one person in the screen. I like to watch things the night before the game from the end zone copy and I try to see how many times there's 11 people on the screen and it's almost every play. We had one missed tackle versus the Chargers and it was the one time I only got one guy on the screen, it was a third and eight and he barely got off of it, but it was very fast that three other guys showed up and they still ended up having to punt, so they're playing well together."

As far as the run game, it seemed like earlier in the year there were some plays where one block would prevent it from being a big play and it feels like it's finally clicking now. Do you think that's just process of the season, the team clicking, why do you think things have been more effective?

"I think it helps getting you starting running back back. I think losing [RB] Elijah [Mitchell] early, I think we were running for like seven yards per play at that time, so I think that always is tough when you lose that. I thought [Miami Dolphins RB] Jeff [Wilson Jr.] stepped it up well for us. And now getting Elijah back, adding [RB] Christian [McCaffrey], we've gotten a few big ones and usually it evens out, but we had some pretty impressive blocks just getting those extra ones on Monday night, so it was a pretty cool game for us."

Can you break down the WR Deebo Samuel run where you guys had a lot of blocks and what made that play so successful?

"We were able to get the edge. When you get the edge and you get outside, it's really tough to get [Arizona Cardinals S] Budda [Baker] who's probably the toughest guy in the league to get someone on and it was really cool that Trent got on him. Probably the only guy who could have, and once we got him we had a big play and just how hard the guys were working on the backside allowed us to finish it and Deebo having that speed and [WR Brandon] Aiyuk had a real good block on it too."

OL Jake Brendel was --

"Brendel had a really good one. He was feeling himself at the end of it, he had some swag at the end of it for a center, so it was a cool play."

It was an impressive block.

"Yeah, definitely. It's probably the least amount that I've been able to go through a game and truly enjoy it just because we really tried hard to sleep on that plane so when we woke up we could start working, so I'm excited to go through it a bunch more with the guys later in the week when it slows down a little bit."

Speaking of reactions after touchdowns? Did you see Brandon nailing poor Nick?

"Yeah, I did. It was hilarious. I thought it was very funny. Glad he wasn't hurt, but I'm glad B.A. handled it right. Shows he's a caring person. He wasn't too amped up, it kind of ruined his touchdown dance, but I think he felt bad about it."

You just scored 38 points and you have so many different guys that contributed in big ways. You have all these kind of mouths to feed, people talk about, is that an organic thing that happens throughout the game or are you when you're putting these game plans together, trying to like make sure everybody gets their share? How does that work?

"You balance it out where everyone has chances to get the ball, but I don't think it'll ever be like that. It was like everybody got a B+, A- because everyone did really good, but if someone ever does great then there's not enough for anyone else… it's going to take away from someone and just to watch everyone contribute, all the receivers, the tight end, the running backs it was just kind of cool how it worked out and yeah, we'd always like to try to make it that way, but usually the coverages won't allow it. It was cool, that's why it was so much fun."

On that same token you threw 21 times to seven runs in the first half, how much of that was Arizona likes to do the six guys on the line? How much did you kind of adjust in that way to them?

"Mainly for that, yeah. A lot of people do six on the line versus us. The Chargers did it the week before. They got to it a different way, but that's what Arizona did to us last year and sometimes the best thing to do is to over do that. It makes sense schematically, but that's also what we did last year coming out and we had a bunch of yards and a bunch of explosives, but we ended up getting our butts kicked, so you don't just want to let them dictate that. Also, you can't just throw it every time just because they do that. You still have to be somewhat be honest, but we stayed on the field a little bit and got those plays. You saw two drives where you go three-and-out and then four-and-out on the next one and if you're going to keep throwing and stuff, you better make sure it works, because sometimes it takes time to get going. And the coolest part, our defense held them for the most part. They had 10 points in those, but they didn't run away with it. We didn't turn it over. And usually when that happens, it's a matter of time and we were able to get it going."

It was third-straight second half shut out, how much of that is adjustments defensive coordinator DeMeco Ryans is making at halftime or is it just guys execute?

"I think the coolest part is you know, even from the Rams game it's stuck out big to me because we struggled a little bit versus Kansas City and we came out versus the Rams and it seemed like they went down the field twice and we weren't going to be able to stop them and then we just shut them down in the second half and when we got on the plane and you watch that first half, I felt like it was as good as the second half. We just had a couple plays where they got us, they got us once schematically and we had a bust on the other, but we were playing that type of football and then I feel if you watch it the last two weeks it's been the same story. Even versus Chargers, I thought we had a hell of a first half on defense, but they hit us on a bust on a corner for a touchdown and they got us going across the field just on a good play call by them, but I kind of feel it's been the same. And if you're playing that way with the right intent, we always talk about, you can see the intent on the silent tape regardless of the score and the stats and usually when you can see it on the silent tape, it's a matter of time and we protected the ball and then when you protect the ball, you don't turn it over, you don't get a lot of penalties, usually the way you're playing ends up leading to a victory in the end."

Back to Jake Brendel, that offensive lineman downfield is something that is part of their job description, but not everybody does it. When you see a guy hustling like that, what does it tell you about the kind of buy in by the offensive line and the way everybody's playing?

"They better or they're going to be the weak link. I feel like everyone does it here, it's kind of just our standard. I think our guys enjoy it. When you call a run play, you try to make it the same feeling as calling a go-route or a big post or something like that every play has a chance to score. And the only way you can look at that in the run game is if all 11 people are involved, so we say the same thing to our quarterback carrying out the fake, you better not sit and watch the scoreboard and enjoy it like everyone else is, you better run and try to buy one person for yourself, but it is cool, especially with altitude. Guys were gassed, everyone was, including me just walking up to halftime, but guys get a kick out of it when they can run and it's a lot harder than it used to because you can't throw down the field, so sometimes those big guys in space can't really stop."

What are your impressions of the Saints?

"Just starting with their defense, they look like a [New Orleans Saints head coach] Dennis Allen team. They've been, to me, one of the best defenses in the league here over the last five or six years. I don't think their numbers are quite there as they usually are, but I think a lot of that has to do with they've been missing about seven starters a number of these games, but they are as tough and physical and as sound as anyone we played this year. Offensively, starting with [New Orleans Saints RB Alvin] Kamara, [New Orleans Saints TE] Taysom Hill, those two guys right there account for half their explosives, half their touchdowns. [New Orleans Saints QB] Andy Dalton is a guy I have a lot of respect for. They've lost some close games, they've had some very unfortunate injuries, but I think we have our work cut out for us, without a doubt."

Looking at the schedule, this one is kind of different than the others. You have the primetime games, Mexico City followed by two good teams coming up with the Dolphins and Tampa Bay. Do you have to kind of get your guys honed in on making sure that either physically or emotionally there's no let down in this one?

"Yeah, I think you always do. I think what helps is the tape. New Orleans is a very good team. I don't have to make that up. You just have to turn the tape on and watch it, but it was a lot of energy last week, you have to be aware of that. It usually is traveling. It was, just getting back as late as we did. You always have to throw in, which we do every year, the deal with Thanksgiving, which doesn't change up much, but a lot of those guys have family members at home who are on their vacation, so I have to remind some of these young guys that it's their vacation. This is your job, so don't feel guilty when you don't hang out with your uncle late at night. You can hang out with him on Sunday night, he's just chilling, doesn't have stuff to do, but you don't come to his job and yell at him to come home early and hang out with you, so sometimes you have to explain that stuff to young guys, which I've seen affect some people, so you bring that stuff up, all this stuff this week and I think we have a mature group. They understand the deal, but we are working to get our bodies back."

New Orleans, they not only used two quarterbacks, but on one series they were like alternating them almost. One Dalton would come out and Hill would go in, how unusual is that and do you even look at Hill much as a quarterback or is he just an athlete that they do different things with?

"Different things with, there's things they're not going to do with Andy Dalton and for the majority of it's a wildcat type quarterback, but you can't say that fully because if you treat it as a wildcat quarterback then they have the adjustments to get some people open. It starts with when he's in there stopping them with the run. He's explosive, he's strong and I think they're the number one short-yardage team in the league and pretty much because it starts with him."

Does having three straight home games increase the likelihood that that DT Javon Kinlaw could come off of IR and play in one of these upcoming games?

"Yeah, anytime we don't fly definitely helps him, so yeah, that does help."

How important has DL Kevin Givens has been in Javon's absence and in Arik's absence inside?

"He's been huge. Some of the depth we lost early on with Arik, Javon, even going back to [DL] Maurice [Hurst] in training camp. Kevin's had a lot more put on his shoulders and when you do that, Kevin always plays well. You just worry about guys wearing down as the year goes and right when I started to feel he might be doing that, I thought he had a hell of game this week and he made some big plays and he's been able to take care of his body, so he can handle this kind of thing that's been put on him. And he's had a hell of a year for us."

I assume you'll be working tomorrow and aren't responsible for having to cook, what's your favorite Thanksgiving dish?

"I like the green bean casserole and my mom's noodles. My wife's green bean casserole and my mom's noodles. Have to get both of them."

How cool was it see all those fans waiting for you guys at the hotel in Mexico City and then on gameday all the support, it almost felt like they were here at Levi's Stadium?

"Oh, it was awesome. I know I said that after the game and when we entered the stadium it felt like a Super Bowl because we got in there late at night, everything was roped off, but the lobby was packed and there was everyone going and yelling and I could tell we got in pretty late. The game was the next day and right when we did, I could feel our players were into it and we had our team meeting right after and that kind of started it off and it only got better until we left, so that was real cool."

Did you enjoy not answering as many questions from us and more from the international media?

"I loved it. It was my second favorite part behind the win. Sometimes I struggled to understand it though, so that's what I was nervous about, but those guys, they were much nicer to me than you guys are."

Defensive Coordinator DeMeco Ryans


General manager John Lynch was on the radio this morning and he was talking about the defensive play and he said after the Chargers game there was only one missed tackle and that was as good has ever been done around here since he and head coach Kyle Shanahan have been here. The Arizona game looked pretty similar in that regard. Just curious to your sort of your observations on the tackling and why it's been so good.

"Yeah, I think the tackling is good just because of our guys and their mentality. We allow our guys just to go and shoot your gun. Nobody's hesitating. We're all swarming to the ball, how many hats can we get to the ball? So we want all 11 guys just as fast as they can shooting their gun. And for us, it really doesn't matter, even if you do miss a tackle, there should be two or three other guys coming to clean that guy up, so that's just our mentality in tackling. It's a swarm mentality where we want to get as many guys to the ball as possible. We want to make sure we're tracking the inside hip being in proper leverage, but when you get there, it's no hesitating. We're never worried about missing a tackle. We're always shooting our guns to make it."

Head coach Kyle Shanahan was saying that on the film you can see all 11 guys in the frame in a lot of them. Say there's only eight one time, do the three guys that don't make the frame have it pointed out to them?

"No, it's not pointed out to those guys. Everybody is trying their best to get into that frame though. That's one thing I always learned, like when I was in high school I had a coach tell me, 'Hey man, if you want a scholarship, you need to show up in the frame.' Show up in the frame, so that's kind of always been my mentality since high school. If you want a better opportunity for yourself, whether it's getting a scholarship or it's winning a game, it's getting a new contract, show up in the frame. And it's always about the effort, the mindset, the physicality of our guys and everybody is buying in."

When you played, how much did it bother you to miss a tackle?

"Oh, it bothers you a lot to miss a tackle because that's all you worry about. When you do miss, it just feels like this huge spotlight is on you and it's like, 'ah, everybody's looking at me.' I missed, so I like to take that away from guys. I like to take that mentality away from them and you don't worry about missing. If you do miss, you don't worry about it. You got another brother coming to clean you up, so the spotlight is not on you, or it won't be on you for long because we got other guys coming."

I'm sure you'd like to shut out every opponent in the second half the, the whole game of course, but when you start putting a streak together in the second half, three games in a row where you haven't given up any points, can you sense like amongst your guys how much it means to them to kind of keep that going?

"For us, guys aren't really thinking about that. We're thinking about just playing clean football and really the emphasis is, man, how do we do this in the first half? Can we not give up the bonehead play in the first half to even allow teams to be in position to have to now we shut them out in the second half. The mindset is can we go out and play our best for the entire game? That's always the mindset, just playing better, playing cleaner technique and being on the fundamentals of our job, but can we do it for four quarters? Not so much emphasis on the second half. Guys have done a great job in the second half of being where they're supposed to be making plays that they're supposed to make, but they're doing an outstanding job. I can't give those guys enough credit. If you want to win games, you have to close it out in the second half and they've done that the past three weeks."

I'm sure it's a combination of things, but is that second half success more adjustments or just guys eliminating those mistakes?

"It's all about the guys. It's all about the guys. It's about them playing the game the right way. Them being on their assignments and doing their jobs as best as they can do it. And that's what our guys have done. I'm proud of our guys. Our guys play inspirational football. You watch our guys play, you watch the film, our guys play inspirational ball. It just jumps off the tape the effort these guys play with, the way these guys play together for each other. It's just an inspiration to me to watch these guys from the sideline, watch these guys play and how hard they play each and every week. It's unbelievable and I'm just proud to coach these guys and I'm happy and blessed to just be in position to be their coach because of the mindset and their attitude each and every week."

Speaking of tackling, CB Charvarius Ward seem to be leading the way in that regard. Sometimes that position isn't always associated with strong tackling, but how is he in that regard? On the edge there?

"Yeah, Mooney, he had a really nice tackle this last game versus [Arizona Cardinals WR DeAndre] Hopkins, but he's been solid as a tackler, it's everybody on our defense. We try to coach like, corners you are going to have to tackle. That's where teams attack us, they want to get the ball on the edge, so corners are just as important as linebackers or safeties, they're going to have to step up and make tackles. You don't get off the hook just because you play corner and it's okay not to tackle. If you want to play defense for us, you have to step up and tackle and if you can't do that, then you're not going to be out there."

Is that sort of physicality something you have to establish in training camp and maybe it might be a tougher training camp than with other teams, but do you feel like that's a necessary component of making sure guys know from the jump?

"Oh yeah, our guys know from not only training camp, they know from OTAs. Our first meeting with our guys, that's who we're going to be. We're going to be a physical defense, so guys understand that before we even put pads on, they understand the style of play we have to play as a defense and we carry that on throughout training camp. Is it going to be tough? Yes, it's going to be tough, but anything worth having, you have to work hard at it. It's not going to be easy, it's not easy to be a physical defense. And coaches are grinding each and every week to bring that physicality out of you, but when you have the right guys in the locker room who have that mindset, I don't have to speak on it much because you will stick out like a sore thumb if you're not being physical on our defense."

What was the week like for Charvarius? I know that he missed the first two practices. Did that mean that he wasn't quite as acclimated to the elevation when he eventually got to?

"I think that would be a better question suited for him. I'm not sure how he was feeling out there. He didn't practice as much, but he still went out and I can't say enough good things about Mooney and just the way he competed out there without having a practice or getting acclimated. He still went out and battled each and every snap, so I'm just proud of Mooney, proud of what he represents and the man that he is and for him to go out there and play the way he played was great for us.

How big of a challenge does New Orleans Saints TE Taysom Hill represent and what he can bring?

"Yeah Taysom, he just provides a different element. A lot of teams do the wildcat things, where different position players are at quarterback. Taysom is a very tough, physical runner. We know he can do that. We know he can create explosives in the running game, but the thing that he presents different is he can throw the ball. So it's not just your normal wildcat, everybody play the run. This guy can throw the ball, he can make every throw on the field, so we have to be prepared for both and that's what opens it up and that's what makes him a special player just because he's truly a dual-threat guy."

Coaches don't necessarily consider Pro Football Focus to be the gospel, but over the last two games somebody that charted it has the most pressures in the league over the last two weeks is DL Nick Bosa with 14, Buffalo Bills LB Von Miller with 14 and DL Charles Omenihu with 14. Does that speak to the way Charles is playing?

"Yeah, Charles has done a really good job over the past couple weeks. Sometimes those inside guys, it goes unnoticed how much presence they bring. And Charles with the length that he has, he's able to utilize that length to really make it tough on the quarterback, so Charles, he's done a great job. He's getting better each and every week. He is applying pressure to the quarterback. Bosa may get most of the attention because he actually gets the quarterback down a lot more and he's our best player. Without a doubt, but Bosa can't do what he's able to do on the edge, if it's not for, it's [DL] Kevin Givens, it's [DL] Kerry Hyder [Jr.], it's Charles, it's [DL] Drake [Jackson], all those guys inside doing their job that allows Bosa to excel on the outside."

What is your favorite Thanksgiving dish?

"Oh, favorite Thanksgiving dish. Sweet potato pie. Sweet potato pie. Can't have a Thanksgiving without that."
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