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Transgender in sports

Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
I would think to compete you should have 100% converted to the sex identifying. There will always be an advantage for some but that can't be fixed. If not converted you shouldn't qualify.

I can understand that thought process. You drew a simple line in the sand. But while i think many of them will later in life if they can afford it, I don't think you would be advocating for them to do that at a very early age.

What is there not to understand? You either have male anatomy or female anatomy. Why should any biological man be allowed to compete in physical sports with a biological woman that doesn't have the same physical advantages? It's ridiculous that this is even a thing.

Just because you have a male body doesn't mean you think like a male or feel comfortable competing against other males.
My first inclination is to say no but if women don't care that guys are playing women sports than what do I care? There were 2 girls from our womens high school bball team that after graduated transitioned to men. Would it have been weird if they were in the mens bball program with us? IDK, its a tough convo. Its probably even more weird the other way around, but they aren't choosing to be that way. I am fine with it just don't start the inevitable b***hing when a born guy turned woman gets the biggest contract in WNBA history.
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Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
I would think to compete you should have 100% converted to the sex identifying. There will always be an advantage for some but that can't be fixed. If not converted you shouldn't qualify.

I can understand that thought process. You drew a simple line in the sand. But while i think many of them will later in life if they can afford it, I don't think you would be advocating for them to do that at a very early age.

What is there not to understand? You either have male anatomy or female anatomy. Why should any biological man be allowed to compete in physical sports with a biological woman that doesn't have the same physical advantages? It's ridiculous that this is even a thing.

idk you want me to ask the state qualifying girl wrestler on my sons wrestling team?
Originally posted by walker807:
Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
I would think to compete you should have 100% converted to the sex identifying. There will always be an advantage for some but that can't be fixed. If not converted you shouldn't qualify.

I can understand that thought process. You drew a simple line in the sand. But while i think many of them will later in life if they can afford it, I don't think you would be advocating for them to do that at a very early age.

What is there not to understand? You either have male anatomy or female anatomy. Why should any biological man be allowed to compete in physical sports with a biological woman that doesn't have the same physical advantages? It's ridiculous that this is even a thing.

Just because you have a male body doesn't mean you think like a male or feel comfortable competing against other males.

Unfortunately it does mean that you have a physical advantage. If you are a male that doesn't think or feel comfortable as a man, then your eligibility in women's sports should not be considered.
Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
I would think to compete you should have 100% converted to the sex identifying. There will always be an advantage for some but that can't be fixed. If not converted you shouldn't qualify.

I can understand that thought process. You drew a simple line in the sand. But while i think many of them will later in life if they can afford it, I don't think you would be advocating for them to do that at a very early age.

What is there not to understand? You either have male anatomy or female anatomy. Why should any biological man be allowed to compete in physical sports with a biological woman that doesn't have the same physical advantages? It's ridiculous that this is even a thing.

because you have to have empathy for other humans. Read my first post. If you can try and imagine how they feel, to feel that lonely and to be shunned and made fun of. We are talking a very small % of people. I am not saying they should or should not be allowed to compete. I am saying I can see why people wouldn't want them to, but i also recognize these are people who want to compete, belong, have friends, etc.
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
I would think to compete you should have 100% converted to the sex identifying. There will always be an advantage for some but that can't be fixed. If not converted you shouldn't qualify.

I can understand that thought process. You drew a simple line in the sand. But while i think many of them will later in life if they can afford it, I don't think you would be advocating for them to do that at a very early age.

What is there not to understand? You either have male anatomy or female anatomy. Why should any biological man be allowed to compete in physical sports with a biological woman that doesn't have the same physical advantages? It's ridiculous that this is even a thing.

idk you want me to ask the state qualifying girl wrestler on my sons wrestling team?

Yes I do. Can you please ask her when she's full grown competing against full grown men?
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
My first inclination is to say no but if women don't care that guys are playing women sports than what do I care? There were 2 girls from our womens high school bball team that after graduated transitioned to men. Would it have been weird if they were in the mens bball program with us? IDK, its a tough convo. Its probably even more weird the other way around, but they aren't choosing to be that way. I am fine with it just don't start the inevitable b***hing when a born guy turned woman gets the biggest contract in WNBA history.

But they do care. There's a number of girls/women who are vocalizing their displeasure over it.
I don't care about woman's sports. Therefore this subject gets the same amount of attention
I dunno but from some stuff in MMA and cycling I've read it seems that the people born female have a disadvantage

If a transgendered person becomes the best female fighter and others end up at the top of the podium in other sports, how do people feel about the situation then?
Originally posted by RonMexico:
I dunno but from some stuff in MMA and cycling I've read it seems that the people born female have a disadvantage

If a transgendered person becomes the best female fighter and others end up at the top of the podium in other sports, how do people feel about the situation then?

Men do have an advantage biologically.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
I would think to compete you should have 100% converted to the sex identifying. There will always be an advantage for some but that can't be fixed. If not converted you shouldn't qualify.

I can understand that thought process. You drew a simple line in the sand. But while i think many of them will later in life if they can afford it, I don't think you would be advocating for them to do that at a very early age.

What is there not to understand? You either have male anatomy or female anatomy. Why should any biological man be allowed to compete in physical sports with a biological woman that doesn't have the same physical advantages? It's ridiculous that this is even a thing.

because you have to have empathy for other humans. Read my first post. If you can try and imagine how they feel, to feel that lonely and to be shunned and made fun of. We are talking a very small % of people. I am not saying they should or should not be allowed to compete. I am saying I can see why people wouldn't want them to, but i also recognize these are people who want to compete, belong, have friends, etc.

Why is it that you can't have empathy while still holding to your belief? Does the same empathy apply to people like Rachel Dolezel? How is that any different from being something that you're not? Shouldn't empathy apply to both examples of human beings that don't relate to who they are? While one example gains public support the other is publicly shamed.
Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
I would think to compete you should have 100% converted to the sex identifying. There will always be an advantage for some but that can't be fixed. If not converted you shouldn't qualify.

I can understand that thought process. You drew a simple line in the sand. But while i think many of them will later in life if they can afford it, I don't think you would be advocating for them to do that at a very early age.

What is there not to understand? You either have male anatomy or female anatomy. Why should any biological man be allowed to compete in physical sports with a biological woman that doesn't have the same physical advantages? It's ridiculous that this is even a thing.

This. You are born male or female. It's genetic, and something you can't change just by adding or removing body parts. Your chemistry/ X/Y chromosomes are still the same.
1. Was John Bobbitt miraculously turned into a female when his wife cut his d*** off, and then miraculously returned back to a male when sewn back on?
2. Just because you identify yourself as the opposite sex, does not make you the opposite sex. You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig. You put a Rolls Royce hood ornament on a VW Beetle, it's still a Volkswagen.
Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
I would think to compete you should have 100% converted to the sex identifying. There will always be an advantage for some but that can't be fixed. If not converted you shouldn't qualify.

I can understand that thought process. You drew a simple line in the sand. But while i think many of them will later in life if they can afford it, I don't think you would be advocating for them to do that at a very early age.

What is there not to understand? You either have male anatomy or female anatomy. Why should any biological man be allowed to compete in physical sports with a biological woman that doesn't have the same physical advantages? It's ridiculous that this is even a thing.

This. You are born male or female. It's genetic, and something you can't change just by adding or removing body parts. Your chemistry/ X/Y chromosomes are still the same.
1. Was John Bobbitt miraculously turned into a female when his wife cut his d*** off, and then miraculously returned back to a male when sewn back on?
2. Just because you identify yourself as the opposite sex, does not make you the opposite sex. You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig. You put a Rolls Royce hood ornament on a VW Beetle, it's still a Volkswagen.

Lol, amen Jim
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Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
I would think to compete you should have 100% converted to the sex identifying. There will always be an advantage for some but that can't be fixed. If not converted you shouldn't qualify.

I can understand that thought process. You drew a simple line in the sand. But while i think many of them will later in life if they can afford it, I don't think you would be advocating for them to do that at a very early age.

What is there not to understand? You either have male anatomy or female anatomy. Why should any biological man be allowed to compete in physical sports with a biological woman that doesn't have the same physical advantages? It's ridiculous that this is even a thing.

idk you want me to ask the state qualifying girl wrestler on my sons wrestling team?

Yes I do. Can you please ask her when she's full grown competing against full grown men?

Well she's a Senior so I assume she's full grown. She competes against any guy in her weight class. Maybe I'll wait until they are full grown to ask them.
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by AceDuce49:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
I would think to compete you should have 100% converted to the sex identifying. There will always be an advantage for some but that can't be fixed. If not converted you shouldn't qualify.

I can understand that thought process. You drew a simple line in the sand. But while i think many of them will later in life if they can afford it, I don't think you would be advocating for them to do that at a very early age.

What is there not to understand? You either have male anatomy or female anatomy. Why should any biological man be allowed to compete in physical sports with a biological woman that doesn't have the same physical advantages? It's ridiculous that this is even a thing.

idk you want me to ask the state qualifying girl wrestler on my sons wrestling team?

Yes I do. Can you please ask her when she's full grown competing against full grown men?

Well she's a Senior so I assume she's full grown. She competes against any guy in her weight class. Maybe I'll wait until they are full grown to ask them.

No CHOMO but I thought sophomore was full grown for a girl.
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