2019 Atlanta Braves Thread

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Why is it that Hank Aaron had a spike in homeruns at age 37-39, yet no one every accuses him of steroids?

prob cause he avg 33 HR per season over 23 years

And bc they weren't used yet lol. I think the first cases involved russian weight lifters during the 60s Olympics. It was until the 80s that american athletes really started using them.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Why is it that Hank Aaron had a spike in homeruns at age 37-39, yet no one every accuses him of steroids?

prob cause he avg 33 HR per season over 23 years

Funny, that is the exact number of homeruns per season Barry Bonds hit prior to alleged steroid use. But one of the biggest reasons why people assume Barry was injecting steroids is because "you dont get better when you are 36 years old."

Its just funny that standard isnt applied across the board.

Ya its normal to go from 33 Hrs to 70.HRs at that age.

Lolwut

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Why is it that Hank Aaron had a spike in homeruns at age 37-39, yet no one every accuses him of steroids?

prob cause he avg 33 HR per season over 23 years

Funny, that is the exact number of homeruns per season Barry Bonds hit prior to alleged steroid use. But one of the biggest reasons why people assume Barry was injecting steroids is because "you dont get better when you are 36 years old."

Its just funny that standard isnt applied across the board.

Ya its normal to go from 33 Hrs to 70.HRs at that age.

Lolwut

Its also not normal to have the far and away best power season of your career at age 39.

I was half serious. Messing around.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Why is it that Hank Aaron had a spike in homeruns at age 37-39, yet no one every accuses him of steroids?

prob cause he avg 33 HR per season over 23 years

Funny, that is the exact number of homeruns per season Barry Bonds hit prior to alleged steroid use. But one of the biggest reasons why people assume Barry was injecting steroids is because "you dont get better when you are 36 years old."

Its just funny that standard isnt applied across the board.

Ya its normal to go from 33 Hrs to 70.HRs at that age.

Lolwut

Its also not normal to have the far and away best power season of your career at age 39.

I was half serious. Messing around.

47 was the most he hit in a season
Hank hit 47 HRs in 1971 when he was 37.
That was 3 years after they lowered the pitching mound and move the strike zone. I'm sure he like that.

He only had 29 in '68 the year of the pitcher. Then he had 44, 38, 47, 34, 40 then 20, 12, and 10 his last 3 years

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Why is it that Hank Aaron had a spike in homeruns at age 37-39, yet no one every accuses him of steroids?

prob cause he avg 33 HR per season over 23 years

Funny, that is the exact number of homeruns per season Barry Bonds hit prior to alleged steroid use. But one of the biggest reasons why people assume Barry was injecting steroids is because "you dont get better when you are 36 years old."

Its just funny that standard isnt applied across the board.

Ya its normal to go from 33 Hrs to 70.HRs at that age.

Lolwut

Bonds hit 49 HR's the year before he hit 73. He also averaged 40 HR per season from 1993-2000 during his age 28-35 seasons. If you could just hit 73 because you rubbed cream on your arms a lot more guys would've accomplished what he did.

Im not defending Bonds' PED use, but the argument against his career is always so inconsistent and dismissive. The fact that he averaged 52 HR's per season for 5 years from 2000-2004, playing in a dead yard home stadium, as a lefty, kind of makes it hard to explain away his accomplishments based solely on a PED.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Why is it that Hank Aaron had a spike in homeruns at age 37-39, yet no one every accuses him of steroids?

prob cause he avg 33 HR per season over 23 years

Funny, that is the exact number of homeruns per season Barry Bonds hit prior to alleged steroid use. But one of the biggest reasons why people assume Barry was injecting steroids is because "you dont get better when you are 36 years old."

Its just funny that standard isnt applied across the board.

Ya its normal to go from 33 Hrs to 70.HRs at that age.

Lolwut

Bonds hit 49 HR's the year before he hit 73. He also averaged 40 HR per season from 1993-2000 during his age 28-35 seasons. If you could just hit 73 because you rubbed cream on your arms a lot more guys would've accomplished what he did.

Im not defending Bonds' PED use, but the argument against his career is always so inconsistent and dismissive. The fact that he averaged 52 HR's per season for 5 years from 2000-2004, playing in a dead yard home stadium, as a lefty, kind of makes it hard to explain away his accomplishments based solely on a PED.

Which is ultimately why I even brought this up in here. Aaron had a similar spike (in the sense that he had his career best power output at age 37), and no one ever says "people dont get better with age" when Aaron is brought up. Again, I wasnt completely serious that Aaron took steroids, but was just pointing out the hypocrisy in the arguments against Barry.

Originally posted by SoCold:
47 was the most he hit in a season
Hank hit 47 HRs in 1971 when he was 37.
That was 3 years after they lowered the pitching mound and move the strike zone. I'm sure he like that.

He only had 29 in '68 the year of the pitcher. Then he had 44, 38, 47, 34, 40 then 20, 12, and 10 his last 3 years

His age 37 season, he hit a homerun in every 10.5 at bats.

His age 39 season, he hit a homerun every 9.8 at bats.

Those two seasons are far and away his best seasons from a power perspective. None of his other seasons are even close to that ratio.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Why is it that Hank Aaron had a spike in homeruns at age 37-39, yet no one every accuses him of steroids?

prob cause he avg 33 HR per season over 23 years

Funny, that is the exact number of homeruns per season Barry Bonds hit prior to alleged steroid use. But one of the biggest reasons why people assume Barry was injecting steroids is because "you dont get better when you are 36 years old."

Its just funny that standard isnt applied across the board.

Ya its normal to go from 33 Hrs to 70.HRs at that age.

Lolwut

Bonds hit 49 HR's the year before he hit 73. He also averaged 40 HR per season from 1993-2000 during his age 28-35 seasons. If you could just hit 73 because you rubbed cream on your arms a lot more guys would've accomplished what he did.

Im not defending Bonds' PED use, but the argument against his career is always so inconsistent and dismissive. The fact that he averaged 52 HR's per season for 5 years from 2000-2004, playing in a dead yard home stadium, as a lefty, kind of makes it hard to explain away his accomplishments based solely on a PED.

Which is ultimately why I even brought this up in here. Aaron had a similar spike (in the sense that he had his career best power output at age 37), and no one ever says "people dont get better with age" when Aaron is brought up. Again, I wasnt completely serious that Aaron took steroids, but was just pointing out the hypocrisy in the arguments against Barry.

Hank Aaron used a legal form of performance enhancement called playing his home games at a stadium called "The Launching Pad". Its funny how incredible advantages are totally ignored as long as they were out of the players' control. Willie Mays played his entire career in big pitchers parks, but nobody ever brings that up.

As for Bonds, I dont think casual fans really understand how dead fly balls are to right field at Oracle Park. Its a perfect storm of wind patterns, cold/humid marine air, and wall dimensions that make it impossibly difficult for a left handed hitter to hit HR's there. Whatever artificial advantages Bonds reaped from PED's would've been countered by those elements that have hampered literally every other lefty thats even played there.

If you look at his power splits from 2000-2004, he hit HR at a nearly dead even rate between home and away. 130 HR at home, 128 on the road. If he was getting significant artificial boosts in power from PED's, it would be reflected in the splits. You don't maintain that kind of balanced consistency without natural skill. I think PED's gave Bonds the advantage of stamina to maintain a high level of performance for 140+ games per season into his late 30's.

Its just more convenient for people to condense everything he did into one sweeping generalization of "juicing". In an era where 50%+ of players were using PED's, Bonds still stood head and shoulders above everyone else because of his eye for hitting.

Can't believe baseball season is about to start. It feels surreal, and definitely doesn't feel like baseball season.

Originally posted by TheChozen:
Can't believe baseball season is about to start. It feels surreal, and definitely doesn't feel like baseball season.

Three hours to go! GO BRAVO's!

Great way to start the season. Christ.

Oh well, 59 more games to go.

Originally posted by BYisGod:
Great way to start the season. Christ.

Oh well, 59 more games to go.

Being shut down by one of the best pitchers in baseball, and only giving up 1 run isnt a terrible way to start a season. Did you watch the Giants last night? LOL

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Great way to start the season. Christ.

Oh well, 59 more games to go.

Being shut down by one of the best pitchers in baseball, and only giving up 1 run isnt a terrible way to start a season. Did you watch the Giants last night? LOL

Wouldn't be opening day without a little overreacting, now would it?

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BYisGod:
Great way to start the season. Christ.

Oh well, 59 more games to go.

Being shut down by one of the best pitchers in baseball, and only giving up 1 run isnt a terrible way to start a season. Did you watch the Giants last night? LOL

Wouldn't be opening day without a little overreacting, now would it?

Your team is really good. SHould be there right at the end.

Let's not denigrate the Hammer.