Originally posted by Niners99:Again, I said "BY HIMSELF". Nobody ever said "LeBron doesn't elevate his teammates". I said he doesn't elevate his teammates by himself. He always has stars around him to help. The entire "Without Pippen Jordan has no titles" is a terrible pro-LeBron point, because without Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, and AD, LeBron has no titles.
It's a bad look when you lose in the first round 3 years in a row before getting pippen ... and also Lebron would have more rings if the literal best team ever assembled wasn't created
Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by Zachary:You mean him taking a team that has been trash forever to be the 4th seed with 50 wins and win MVP?And make it to the finals? Yea you right
But not win it all/ so got chase after something better. Let's look at MJ/ Phill.
Who was Phil Jackson before Michael? What makes you think Lebron would see someone who never won anything without him as the goat coach? He wouldn't and short of Popovich getting fired and running to Lebron how is someone who leaves every time he sees greener pastures going to end up with a great coach?
I don't care about Phil jackson. I'm just saying you can't say Lebron didn't accomplish anything, which is why he left the Cavs, when he took them to the finals and won mvp .. that's just an asinine statement