When all is said and done the NBA GOAT is..........

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

^ you are the one cramming the Lebron = GOAT down our throats though while, getting in little shots at Jordan's legacy at the same time

lol not at all. I'm only responding to ppl who think Lebron is not even in the conversation. You got that ass backwards.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

^ you are the one cramming the Lebron = GOAT down our throats though while, getting in little shots at Jordan's legacy at the same time

lol not at all. I'm only responding to ppl who think Lebron is not even in the conversation. You got that ass backwards.

Whole I don't think he's the GOAT, He should absolutely be in the conversation.. But the last few pages of this and the other thread have been littered with posts taking shots at Jordan about the social media/media thing, can't win without Pippen, played in a watered down league, can't beat teams that have more than 1 HOF players , etc etc. That, imo, is someone trying to denigrate one guy to prop his guy up. If not my apologies

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

^ you are the one cramming the Lebron = GOAT down our throats though while, getting in little shots at Jordan's legacy at the same time

lol not at all. I'm only responding to ppl who think Lebron is not even in the conversation. You got that ass backwards.

Whole I don't think he's the GOAT, He should absolutely be in the conversation.. But the last few pages of this and the other thread have been littered with posts taking shots at Jordan about the social media/media thing, can't win without Pippen, played in a watered down league, can't beat teams that have more than 1 HOF players , etc etc. That, imo, is someone trying to denigrate one guy to prop his guy up. If not my apologies

I think I've said many times in this thread - imo top 3 players of all time are Kareem, Bron and MJ in any order. It comes down to your preference. Either way - you're picking the best of their eras.

Sometimes you've to reply negativity with negativity. That's all. I never been a hater. I enjoy watching great players. Always have - always will. To me, that is the best part of NBA bc these guys are complete freaks.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Bron took a bad Cavs team to a finals. To say he doesnt elevate his players is ridiculous. The difference with the teams hes won on, he had help. Just like every single modern NBA player that won a title.

MJ isnt winning without Pippen, and guys like Rodman, Grant, Kerr, etc.. Its not Brons fault that the Cavs horrible front office couldnt get him help like Jordan, Kobe, Duncan, and other greats got.

Bron was still the best player in Miami and Clevland, and even now at 35 hes still the best player. I expect these arguments from jiks, sac, monster, and tjd.

You're better than this.

Where did I say he didn't elevate his teammates? I literally never said that.

You just took 4ML's argument against Jordan and then just applied it to my argument against LeBron.

The entire thing started with 4ML saying Jordan was nothing without Pippen, which makes no sense when he's trying to argue for LeBron, who literally couldn't have won any titles with a sidekick or two that were just as good as Pippen.

But I get it, you go out of your way to argue with me about everything, so you had to find some angle to jump in on this.

You literally said, "when did Bron ever elevate a team by himself". Wtf lol

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Bron took a bad Cavs team to a finals. To say he doesnt elevate his players is ridiculous. The difference with the teams hes won on, he had help. Just like every single modern NBA player that won a title.

MJ isnt winning without Pippen, and guys like Rodman, Grant, Kerr, etc.. Its not Brons fault that the Cavs horrible front office couldnt get him help like Jordan, Kobe, Duncan, and other greats got.

Bron was still the best player in Miami and Clevland, and even now at 35 hes still the best player. I expect these arguments from jiks, sac, monster, and tjd.

You're better than this.

Where did I say he didn't elevate his teammates? I literally never said that.

You just took 4ML's argument against Jordan and then just applied it to my argument against LeBron.

The entire thing started with 4ML saying Jordan was nothing without Pippen, which makes no sense when he's trying to argue for LeBron, who literally couldn't have won any titles with a sidekick or two that were just as good as Pippen.

But I get it, you go out of your way to argue with me about everything, so you had to find some angle to jump in on this.

You literally said, "when did Bron ever elevate a team by himself". Wtf lol

"By himself". Key words. He always had Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, AD, etc. He elevates his teams, but not by himself. Hes had other superstars around him every time he's had success.

Originally posted by Knowledge:
Lebron will never be the GOAT

Originally posted by Knowledge:

Lebron will never be the GOAT unless he gets at least 6 rings

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Imagine Lebron being coached by probably the greatest NBA head coach ever, he'll probably have 40 rings.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Imagine Lebron being coached by probably the greatest NBA head coach ever, he'll probably have 40 rings.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Imagine Lebron being coached by probably the greatest NBA head coach ever, he'll probably have 40 rings.

Or he'd leave him after year 3 when he didn't have instant success.

Originally posted by Zachary:

You mean him taking a team that has been trash forever to be the 4th seed with 50 wins and win MVP?And make it to the finals? Yea you right

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Bron took a bad Cavs team to a finals. To say he doesnt elevate his players is ridiculous. The difference with the teams hes won on, he had help. Just like every single modern NBA player that won a title.

MJ isnt winning without Pippen, and guys like Rodman, Grant, Kerr, etc.. Its not Brons fault that the Cavs horrible front office couldnt get him help like Jordan, Kobe, Duncan, and other greats got.

Bron was still the best player in Miami and Clevland, and even now at 35 hes still the best player. I expect these arguments from jiks, sac, monster, and tjd.

You're better than this.

Where did I say he didn't elevate his teammates? I literally never said that.

You just took 4ML's argument against Jordan and then just applied it to my argument against LeBron.

The entire thing started with 4ML saying Jordan was nothing without Pippen, which makes no sense when he's trying to argue for LeBron, who literally couldn't have won any titles with a sidekick or two that were just as good as Pippen.

But I get it, you go out of your way to argue with me about everything, so you had to find some angle to jump in on this.

You literally said, "when did Bron ever elevate a team by himself". Wtf lol

"By himself". Key words. He always had Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, AD, etc. He elevates his teams, but not by himself. Hes had other superstars around him every time he's had success.

Did you not watch him during his first stint in Cleveland? Thats exactly what he did, elevate his teammates. Unless you think Mo Williams and Drew Gooden were the reason for the Cavs going to the finals or the deep playoff runs.

And Kyrie and Love were winning like 30 games a year on their own. Saying Bron doesnt elevate his teammates makes no sense. Thats Skip Bayless talk.