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...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.
[ Edited by 4ML on May 22, 2017 at 4:14 PM ]
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What are you talking about? Bulls had the best roster in the league by far every year they won. So answer me - how did Bulls win 55 games without Jordan and almost beat Knicks in the playoffs?

BJ Armstrong was a starter in an all star game. Horace Grant made an all-star team with Bulls and of course he had Pippen. In the second 3 peat - he had Rodman and Pippen and no other team had 3 future HOFers on the roster. He never went thru a team with a big 3.



Nobody wants to acknowledge the fact that the 94 Bulls won 55 games without MJ!! Forget a horrible foul by Pippen possibly costing them a game 7 victory over the Knicks, focus on the fact that they won 55 games the year he retired! What has the teams LeBron played on looked like after he left? Hell, the Cavs are 4-23 since 2015 in games he doesn't play in! An NBA Contender with him on the floor ands lottery team without him...hmmm
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Originally posted by 4ML:
...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.

Damn, you are definitely not giving Jordan credit.

Ron Harper, Toni Kukoc ! Jordan made all of those guys. Jordan made everyone around him better.
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on May 22, 2017 at 7:40 PM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 4ML:
...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.

Damn, your are definitely not giving Jordan credit.

Lol at least MJ can do things like hit free throws when it matters. Never seen a great player shank so many free throws in crunch time.
Originally posted by 4ML:
...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.

Those guys were important but it was MJ when a play had to made. I watched tons of MJ and Lebron games so it's not close for me. It's like people saying Moss is better than Rice. If you saw both, the answer is clear.
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Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 4ML:
...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.

Damn, your are definitely not giving Jordan credit.

Lol at least MJ can do things like hit free throws when it matters. Never seen a great player shank so many free throws in crunch time.

lol straight from skip bayless' page. How many significant games Lebron solely lost because he didn't make free throws when it mattered?

Btw...He hit one that mattered last year in the NBA Finals Game 7. You remember that one?
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Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 4ML:
...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.

Those guys were important but it was MJ when a play had to made. I watched tons of MJ and Lebron games so it's not close for me. It's like people saying Moss is better than Rice. If you saw both, the answer is clear.

Yes, I'm sure your opinion matters.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 4ML:
...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.

Those guys were important but it was MJ when a play had to made. I watched tons of MJ and Lebron games so it's not close for me. It's like people saying Moss is better than Rice. If you saw both, the answer is clear.

Yes, I'm sure your opinion matters.

I'm not on my knees for a certain player so yes it does. I'm just calling it like it is.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 4ML:
...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.

Damn, your are definitely not giving Jordan credit.

Lol at least MJ can do things like hit free throws when it matters. Never seen a great player shank so many free throws in crunch time.

lol straight from skip bayless' page. How many significant games Lebron solely lost because he didn't make free throws when it mattered?

Btw...He hit one that mattered last year in the NBA Finals Game 7. You remember that one?

If he would hit all his frees throws when it mattered then you wouldn't have to point to a time when he actually hit one.

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Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 4ML:
...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.

Damn, your are definitely not giving Jordan credit.

Lol at least MJ can do things like hit free throws when it matters. Never seen a great player shank so many free throws in crunch time.

lol straight from skip bayless' page. How many significant games Lebron solely lost because he didn't make free throws when it mattered?

Btw...He hit one that mattered last year in the NBA Finals Game 7. You remember that one?

If he would hit all his frees throws when it mattered then you wouldn't have to point to a time when he actually hit one.

Yea...you even deflect questions like Skip Bayless lol
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 4ML:
...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.

Damn, your are definitely not giving Jordan credit.

Lol at least MJ can do things like hit free throws when it matters. Never seen a great player shank so many free throws in crunch time.

lol straight from skip bayless' page. How many significant games Lebron solely lost because he didn't make free throws when it mattered?

Btw...He hit one that mattered last year in the NBA Finals Game 7. You remember that one?

If he would hit all his frees throws when it mattered then you wouldn't have to point to a time when he actually hit one.

Yea...you even deflect questions like Skip Bayless lol

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.cleveland.com/v1/articles/20530087/lebron_james_on_continued_free.amp

If it wasn't a problem then there wouldn't be numerous articles about it. Got to add on, it's like Shaq and free throws. You can't point to a specific play but you know his free throw shooting is a hinderance. He's not on Shaq's level but Lebron shouldn't miss so much.
[ Edited by niners94 on May 22, 2017 at 8:15 PM ]
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Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 4ML:
...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.

Damn, your are definitely not giving Jordan credit.

Lol at least MJ can do things like hit free throws when it matters. Never seen a great player shank so many free throws in crunch time.

lol straight from skip bayless' page. How many significant games Lebron solely lost because he didn't make free throws when it mattered?

Btw...He hit one that mattered last year in the NBA Finals Game 7. You remember that one?

If he would hit all his frees throws when it mattered then you wouldn't have to point to a time when he actually hit one.

Yea...you even deflect questions like Skip Bayless lol

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.cleveland.com/v1/articles/20530087/lebron_james_on_continued_free.amp

If it wasn't a problem then there wouldn't be numerous articles about it.



You said he misses too many FTs when it matters. I asked - which significant game did he lose because he missed FTs in crunch.

Yes, Lebron isn't a great FT shooter. I'm glad you found some articles to validate something obvious.

Move on bro. I don't want to go back and forth about trivial issues. You think Lebron is levels below MJ. Good for you. I don't know why you need my approval for your opinion.

Please PM jcs to further discuss Jordan. He started this. I already said he's the GOAT.
[ Edited by 4ML on May 22, 2017 at 8:36 PM ]
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 4ML:
...and I haven't even talked about guys like Tony Kukoc and Ron Harper (who btw averaged like 20ppg for his career and was considered a top 5 perimeter defender before joining Bulls at age 30 and took a small role to win a chip).



Jordan is GOAT but don't say dumb things like Jordan did it by himself. He was getting swept out of 1st round when he was doing it by himself.

Damn, your are definitely not giving Jordan credit.

Lol at least MJ can do things like hit free throws when it matters. Never seen a great player shank so many free throws in crunch time.

lol straight from skip bayless' page. How many significant games Lebron solely lost because he didn't make free throws when it mattered?

Btw...He hit one that mattered last year in the NBA Finals Game 7. You remember that one?

If he would hit all his frees throws when it mattered then you wouldn't have to point to a time when he actually hit one.

Yea...you even deflect questions like Skip Bayless lol

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.cleveland.com/v1/articles/20530087/lebron_james_on_continued_free.amp

If it wasn't a problem then there wouldn't be numerous articles about it.



You said he misses too many FTs when it matters. I asked - which significant game did he lose because he missed FTs in crunch.

Yes, Lebron isn't a great FT shooter. I'm glad you found some articles to validate something obvious.

Move on bro. I don't want to go back and forth about trivial issues. You think Lebron is levels below MJ. Good for you. I don't know why you need my approval for your opinion.

Please PM 49allthetime to further discuss Jordan. He started this. I already said he's the GOAT.

It's just nitpicking since I know Lebron is one of the greatest. Just not quiet as good as MJ in my opinion.
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Originally posted by niners94:
It's just nitpicking since I know Lebron is one of the greatest. Just not quiet as good as MJ in my opinion.

...and that's fine. I don't have a problem with that opinion.

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