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Official 2013-14 Los Angeles Lakers Thread
Nov 25, 2013 at 11:25 AM
- NeonNiner
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Guess Kobe and the Lakers don't want another ring or be contenders anymore.
Nov 25, 2013 at 11:52 AM
- StOnEy333
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I don't think this handcuffs the team as much as people might think. I'm not saying it's not a lot of money for an aging player, but they'll still have plenty of money to spend after Kobe, Nash, and sacre get paid. Which, IIRC, are the only players under contract after this season. I don't think Nash will be back, so they'll be alright.
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM
- GameOver
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I don't think this handcuffs the team as much as people might think. I'm not saying it's not a lot of money for an aging player, but they'll still have plenty of money to spend after Kobe, Nash, and sacre get paid. Which, IIRC, are the only players under contract after this season. I don't think Nash will be back, so they'll be alright.
Kobe's at 24 mill, Nash is at 9 mill, new cap is projected to be like 63 million...
Nick Young has a player option for 2 mill, Sacre will be here for 1 mill. That's $36 million locked up to those 4 guys. Then we have cap holds for everyone on the roster.
I think this deal all but guarantees Pau's departure (or a VERY steep discount from him to stay) and as far as Summer 2014 FA run...Idk what this means. Melo? Really? Best case scenario is Kobe, Melo, Pau, Nash? Nash is a epiphany away from retiring...God damnit
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM
- sacniner
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I don't think this handcuffs the team as much as people might think. I'm not saying it's not a lot of money for an aging player, but they'll still have plenty of money to spend after Kobe, Nash, and sacre get paid. Which, IIRC, are the only players under contract after this season. I don't think Nash will be back, so they'll be alright.
Nice job staying calm after Ninerjohn has been coming at you like that.
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM
- sacniner
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Originally posted by GameOver:
Kobe's at 24 mill, Nash is at 9 mill, new cap is projected to be like 63 million...
Nick Young has a player option for 2 mill, Sacre will be here for 1 mill. That's $36 million locked up to those 4 guys. Then we have cap holds for everyone on the roster.
I think this deal all but guarantees Pau's departure (or a VERY steep discount from him to stay) and as far as Summer 2014 FA run...Idk what this means. Melo? Really? Best case scenario is Kobe, Melo, Pau, Nash? Nash is a epiphany away from retiring...God damnit
Isn't Pau leaving a forgone conclusion?
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM
- NineFourNiner
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He could still restructure to bring in another player or two for a run.
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:12 PM
- sacniner
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Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
He could still restructure to bring in another player or two for a run.
Now this is some positive thinking. #TheSecret
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM
- GameOver
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Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by GameOver:
Kobe's at 24 mill, Nash is at 9 mill, new cap is projected to be like 63 million...
Nick Young has a player option for 2 mill, Sacre will be here for 1 mill. That's $36 million locked up to those 4 guys. Then we have cap holds for everyone on the roster.
I think this deal all but guarantees Pau's departure (or a VERY steep discount from him to stay) and as far as Summer 2014 FA run...Idk what this means. Melo? Really? Best case scenario is Kobe, Melo, Pau, Nash? Nash is a epiphany away from retiring...God damnit
Isn't Pau leaving a forgone conclusion?
Prior to this, I would have said no. Him coming back at a lower deal (say...$10 million) seemed feasible and reasonable under the one stipulation that Kobe takes a pay cut. Albeit, this deal is technically a pay cut it isn't enough to be able to keep Pau, some of our role guys (Jordan Hill, Xavier Henry, Jordan Farmar, and Wesley Johnson are all guys I want), and go after some necessary talent in the FA pool. We can offer 1 max deal and that's about it. I would much rather not give Carmelo $20 million and instead find two or three guys to take up that much space but of course, who?
WHO!!??!?!
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM
- GameOver
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Management either has something cooking behind the scenes (which I can't even imagine what that could be) or they really think this team is short just Kobe to make it a contender (LOL).
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM
- sacniner
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Originally posted by GameOver:
Prior to this, I would have said no. Him coming back at a lower deal (say...$10 million) seemed feasible and reasonable under the one stipulation that Kobe takes a pay cut. Albeit, this deal is technically a pay cut it isn't enough to be able to keep Pau, some of our role guys (Jordan Hill, Xavier Henry, Jordan Farmar, and Wesley Johnson are all guys I want), and go after some necessary talent in the FA pool. We can offer 1 max deal and that's about it. I would much rather not give Carmelo $20 million and instead find two or three guys to take up that much space but of course, who?
WHO!!??!?!
You guys always figure it out... Laker fans on twitter are suggesting that Kobe will still take a paycut if it means you guys will sign someone else. That ain't happening. This is his last contract and he just inked it. Why would he turn around and take a paycut? He likes his money and I don't blame him.
I agree with you about Melo. That would be a HORRENDOUS signing. I think almost everyone agrees. I would be shocked if they did that.
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM
- Ninerjohn
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Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I don't think this handcuffs the team as much as people might think. I'm not saying it's not a lot of money for an aging player, but they'll still have plenty of money to spend after Kobe, Nash, and sacre get paid. Which, IIRC, are the only players under contract after this season. I don't think Nash will be back, so they'll be alright.
Nice job staying calm after Ninerjohn has been coming at you like that.
STFU. I explained that Stoney is probably the most loyal Lakers fan in here. I just think his love for the Lakers and Kobe clouds his vision a bit. To say I have been "coming like you like that" is total BS.
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM
- sacniner
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
STFU. I explained that Stoney is probably the most loyal Lakers fan in here. I just think his love for the Lakers and Kobe clouds his vision a bit. To say I have been "coming like you like that" is total BS.
I was JOKING man. Haha... you're easy to piss off.
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM
- Ninerjohn
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Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
STFU. I explained that Stoney is probably the most loyal Lakers fan in here. I just think his love for the Lakers and Kobe clouds his vision a bit. To say I have been "coming like you like that" is total BS.
I was JOKING man. Haha... you're easy to piss off.
It seemed like more of an attempt to flame something between Stoney and me than a joke. I dont get the humor in it.
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM
- sacniner
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
STFU. I explained that Stoney is probably the most loyal Lakers fan in here. I just think his love for the Lakers and Kobe clouds his vision a bit. To say I have been "coming like you like that" is total BS.
I was JOKING man. Haha... you're easy to piss off.
It seemed like more of an attempt to flame something between Stoney and me than a joke. I dont get the humor in it.
It wasn't an attempt "to flame something" between you guys, NO HOMO. I wouldn't do that and I thought it was pretty obvious. Sorry.
Nov 25, 2013 at 12:35 PM
- Ninerjohn
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Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
STFU. I explained that Stoney is probably the most loyal Lakers fan in here. I just think his love for the Lakers and Kobe clouds his vision a bit. To say I have been "coming like you like that" is total BS.
I was JOKING man. Haha... you're easy to piss off.
It seemed like more of an attempt to flame something between Stoney and me than a joke. I dont get the humor in it.
It wasn't an attempt "to flame something" between you guys, NO HOMO. I wouldn't do that and I thought it was pretty obvious. Sorry.
No worries. I said after my first post that I had worded it wrong and didnt mean to imply that Stoney wasnt knowledgable. He is a loyal Laker fan come hell or high water and I appreciate that. No band wagon in him.