2012-13 General NBA Discussion Thread

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
What's everybody's thoughts on if Ron Artest is a HoFer? I personally think he'll get it. Not a first ballot, but eventually.

There is no NBA HOF right? Isn't it a basketball HOF? That includes high school, college and NBA? That is what I thought.

Anyway, IMO, Artest is not HOF material.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

What's everybody's thoughts on if Ron Artest is a HoFer? I personally think he'll get it. Not a first ballot, but eventually.

There is no NBA HOF right? Isn't it a basketball HOF? That includes high school, college and NBA? That is what I thought.

Anyway, IMO, Artest is not HOF material.

Right. It's just the Naismith Memorial Hall of Fame. Named after the games inventor. It covers the entire world of basketball.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

You don't go in as a member of one team or another. That's only in baseball.

Lol oh. Well he should go in the boxing HOF IMO

I don't think Artest gets in, and I don't think he deserves to.

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

I don't think Artest gets in, and I don't think he deserves to.

Doesn't even deserve a conversation about it.

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

I don't think Artest gets in, and I don't think he deserves to.

Doesn't even deserve a conversation about it.

Why do you say that?

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I don't think Artest gets in, and I don't think he deserves to.

Doesn't even deserve a conversation about it.

Why do you say that?

what has he done that hall of fame worthy? No way he gets in

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
What's everybody's thoughts on if Ron Artest is a HoFer? I personally think he'll get it. Not a first ballot, but eventually.

Absoutely not. No f**king way is Ron Artest a Hall of Famer in any sense of the word.

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
What's everybody's thoughts on if Ron Artest is a HoFer? I personally think he'll get it. Not a first ballot, but eventually.

Absoutely not. No f**king way is Ron Artest a Hall of Famer in any sense of the word.

This

Stoney you're off your rocker if you think Artest's a HOFer

Look at his credentials:

FG% .418
Points 11,757 (14.2 ppg)
Rebounds 3,908 (4.7 rpg)
Assists 2,464 (3 apg)
Steals 1,543 (1.9 spg)

NBA champion (2010)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2004)
NBA All-Star (2004)
All-NBA Third Team (2004)
2× All-Defensive First Team (2004, 2006)
2× All-Defensive Second Team (2003, 2009)

Now look at Dennis Johnson's, who was overlooked for nearly 2 decades and barely got in, posthumously:

FG% .445
Points 15,535 (14.9 ppg)
Rebounds 4,249 (3.9 rpg)
Assists 5,499 (5.0 apg)
Steals 1,477 (1.3 spg)

3× NBA champion (1979, 1984, 1986)
Finals MVP (1979)
5× NBA All-Star (1979–1982, 1985)
All-NBA First Team (1981)
All-NBA Second Team (1980)
6× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1979–1983, 1987)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1984–1986)
#3 Retired by the Boston Celtics

And those are just numbers. Dennis Johnson was hugely instrumental in the 3 championships he helped win. Artest's contributions to the Lakers 2010 championship pale in comparison.

If Pau Gasol was American, would he be a HOFer?

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
If Pau Gasol was American, would he be a HOFer?

He'd be on the fence. Probably not, though. That he's a 7x European player of the year winner, has 2 Olympic silvers and 3 Golds in FIBA play for Spain will be enough for him to get in when combined with his NBA accomplishments.

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
If Pau Gasol was American, would he be a HOFer?

He'd be on the fence. Probably not, though. That he's a 7x European player of the year winner, has 2 Olympic silvers and 3 Golds in FIBA play for Spain will be enough for him to get in when combined with his NBA accomplishments.

Ya, that's why I excluded his international accomplishments. If he was Bob Williams from Illinois, he wouldn't be a HOFer, IMO.

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
If Pau Gasol was American, would he be a HOFer?

He'd be on the fence. Probably not, though. That he's a 7x European player of the year winner, has 2 Olympic silvers and 3 Golds in FIBA play for Spain will be enough for him to get in when combined with his NBA accomplishments.

Ya, that's why I excluded his international accomplishments. If he was Bob Williams from Illinois, he wouldn't be a HOFer, IMO.

Perhaps, but he were American, maybe he wouldn't play as soft as he does.

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
If Pau Gasol was American, would he be a HOFer?

Yes. His numbers are HOF worthy. about 19ppg, almost 10rpg, 1.7bpg, over 3apg etc. He is a HOFer just based on his NBA career.