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  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Proud of what ASU has been able to do, given the coaching change and timeline.

Four-star tackle, four-star RB, top juco RB, top juco DT and 12+ three star guys. Don't know that anybody could reasonably expect anything better this offseason.

ASU got a good LB in Salamo Fiso, looks like another Junior Seau, only 3 stars though.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Proud of what ASU has been able to do, given the coaching change and timeline.

Four-star tackle, four-star RB, top juco RB, top juco DT and 12+ three star guys. Don't know that anybody could reasonably expect anything better this offseason.

ASU got a good LB in Salamo Fiso, looks like another Junior Seau, only 3 stars though.

Yeah, looking forward to seeing him. Assuming our coaching improves, we should do well with a bevy of 3-star guys with a few 4-stars sprinkled in.
FSU IS BALLING!!!
To put things in perspective, the top 2008-2009 recruiting classes (JRs and SRs last year) were:

1. Alabama #1, #1 [1]
2. Ohio State #4, #3 [ unranked]
3. USC #8, #4 [Could have been ranked anywhere from #7-#21]
4. LSU #11, #2 [ 2]
5. Georgia #7, #6 [20]
6. Florida #3, #11 [ 36, recieved 1 vote]
7. Florida State #9, #7 [23]
8. Michigan #10, #8 [9]
9. Texas #14, #5 [28]
10. Oklahoma #6, #13 [15]
11. Miami #5, #15 [unranked]
12. Notre Dame #2, #21 [36, recieved 1 vote]
13. South Carolina #22, #12 [8]
14. UCLA #13, #14 [unranked]
15. Texas A&M #16, #22 [32]
16. North Carolina 32, 9 [unranked]
17. Auburn #20, #19 [29]
18. Ole Miss #29, #18 [unranked]
19. Virginia Tech - #18, #23 [17]
20. Tennessee #35, #10 [unranked]
21. Clemson #12, #37 [22]
22. Oregon #19, #32 [4]
23. ASU #20, #31 [unranked]
24. Arkansas #36,#16 [5]
25. Michigan State #16, #47 [10]

Final USA Coaches poll ranking last year in brackets.

So out of the top 20 recruiting classes leading up to the 2011 season, I'd say 14 were busts. Thats more than half.

Oklahoma State, Boise State, amd Stanford all had top 10 finishes despite recruiting. Stanford had a #20 class in 08 and Ok St had the #26 class in 08. So generally speaking, I would say it takes a top 20 class to make it into the top 10 as only Boise State has done it without one.

Also, this doesn't factor into coach changes and injuries. Florida, Ohio State, Miami, Notre Dame have all had coaching changes. Also some schools had JUCO recruits that from 08 and 09 would have likely been gone by the '11 season.
Brady Hoke did a great job. all defensive guys and good o line prospects. Gotta totally rebuild the trenches then work on some explosive offensive weapons.
Originally posted by TX9R:
Meh, another year another top 3 class for Texas. 13 4-stars but only 1 5-star. Actually kind of a down year. Means nothing if the QB doesn't shake out.

Are folks starting to get a inpatient with Mack Brown?
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Stanford brings in Andrus Peat. #2 OT in the country from Chandler, AZ.

Stanford's class is stacked.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Stanford brings in Andrus Peat. #2 OT in the country from Chandler, AZ.

Stanford's class is stacked.

Stanford is not f'ing around with their O-line. They don't get a lot of the skill players that other schools do, but when you have stacked potential NFL lines like they do, it helps any QB or RB look good.
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Looks like Stanford will end up with four or five 5-star players.
Alabama, Texas, Florida, Ohio State and Michigan leading the way in recruiting.

Stanford landed a 5-star OG, and 2 4-star OT. Stanford is also still in the running for another 4-star OT.
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Brady Hoke did a great job. all defensive guys and good o line prospects. Gotta totally rebuild the trenches then work on some explosive offensive weapons.
Originally posted by TX9R:
Meh, another year another top 3 class for Texas. 13 4-stars but only 1 5-star. Actually kind of a down year. Means nothing if the QB doesn't shake out.

Are folks starting to get a inpatient with Mack Brown?

As unbelievable as it may seem it sure sounds that way. People get spoiled. Personally I think Mack has earned Bobby Bowden-type leeway. But considering the amount of very, very good QBs that have come out of Texas in the last 5 years, it's amazing that UT hasn't gotten/ produced one.

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Stanford is not f'ing around with their O-line. They don't get a lot of the skill players that other schools do, but when you have stacked potential NFL lines like they do, it helps any QB or RB look good.

And Barry Sanders Jr is going to be running behind that line

I think Stanford will continue to be good for at least the next few years.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Brady Hoke did a great job. all defensive guys and good o line prospects. Gotta totally rebuild the trenches then work on some explosive offensive weapons.

Michigan got lucky that OSU is going through sanctions right now. Their program was essentially in the toilet (by their standards) and this gives them a chance to regroup.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Looks like Stanford will end up with four or five 5-star players.


names?
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Looks like Stanford will end up with four or five 5-star players.


names?

bro, you know you can check ESPN's recruiting page right? now all content is $$$, like list of commits
Originally posted by aman49:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Brady Hoke did a great job. all defensive guys and good o line prospects. Gotta totally rebuild the trenches then work on some explosive offensive weapons.

Michigan got lucky that OSU is going through sanctions right now. Their program was essentially in the toilet (by their standards) and this gives them a chance to regroup.
Not really Ohio state still had a great class and didn't lose many recruits b/c of those sanctions. And Urban killed it with all the guys backing off from Penn State b/c of Sandusky. Hoke and his staff just flat out did a good job. I'm sure there would have been more competition if Meyer was at Ohio state all year but those sanctions really didn't hurt their recruiting. Mostly due to Meyer b/c he's a beast at recruiting. Ohio state closed strongly.
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Brady Hoke did a great job. all defensive guys and good o line prospects. Gotta totally rebuild the trenches then work on some explosive offensive weapons.
Originally posted by TX9R:
Meh, another year another top 3 class for Texas. 13 4-stars but only 1 5-star. Actually kind of a down year. Means nothing if the QB doesn't shake out.

Are folks starting to get a inpatient with Mack Brown?

As unbelievable as it may seem it sure sounds that way. People get spoiled. Personally I think Mack has earned Bobby Bowden-type leeway. But considering the amount of very, very good QBs that have come out of Texas in the last 5 years, it's amazing that UT hasn't gotten/ produced one.
I had that feeling. It's like folks all of the sudden start pining for the "coach in waiting" to take over after a few lackluster seasons. To a lesser extent that's what happened to Ralph Friegeden at MD. Nowhere near the success of Mack Brown but considering it's MD folks should have been more than happy with his output. Now they are kicking themselves, and tons of players are abandoning ship.
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