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Orlando Magic 2009 Eastern Conference Champions Offseason Thread

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Just for the fun of it

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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by GameOver:
^fair enough, but I just dont see Vince being a "team player" in this one...i plan on hearing a lot from him...during the season...lol


however, lol, nice touch at the end...good luck jrg, dino, and VA...hope your offseason goes well and not ballistic...

I wouldnt mind seeing you guys in the Finals again...thatd be a huge shot to Shaq+LeBot which would be too funny to see on TV...again...lol

I think first off, Vince will be happy to be winning ball games after being stuck in NJ with basically nothing for the majority of his career. He's coming to play w/ the best young C and a LEGIT team for once. May sway his point of view..or hopefully I hope so. Maybe he finishes the game w/ 10 points, but Orlando wins. That should be all that matters. Hell, I'll take his 30+ performances..but winning games is all that matters. Hopefully he sees that as well.

Haha, yeah..good luck to you guys as well, I wouldn't be surprised w/ another Lakers/Magic Finals..hopefully the old saying "Paybacks a b***h" comes into play here.

Your overconfidence is overwhelming. The Magic will find out how hard it is to get back, next year. Can they? Maybe. But you seem to have looked past your conference competition getting stronger, as well.


As far as my opinion on Vince, I'm skeptical, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Wait, I thought it would be Spurs/Magic?

You thought wrong. We're going back to back. If not another 3-peat. Remember, Phil has never won anything less than 3 in a row.



But back to the Magic: What's the story of they lose Hedo?

Jackson won't be back w/ LA next year..health problems, doesn't wanna travel w/ the team...part time coach..get outta here w/ that nonsense. You guys need a coach before you talk about repeating..and 3-peat?

Back to the Magic...IF Hedo doesn't re-sign to play w/ us, I've seen alot of stuff regarding Hedo, Redick/Anderson, draft picks to Toronto for Chris Bosh. Who knows. I'd rather have Hedo to keep this rotation going..but what will happen. DeVos apparently intends to dig deep in the pockets to keep Hedo in a Magic jersey and even if he doesn't and even if we don't make a move for Bosh/Boozer, we still have:

Nelson
Carter
Pietrus
Lewis
Howard

Losing the NBA Finals to us must have made you block out any Laker news, lately. Phil and Mitch already put the part time gig to rest, saying it got blown out of proportion and wouldn't be happening. Phil should be back next year. What's really funny is you trying to talk smack about OUR coaching situation when you have the Master of Panic on your bench doing everything he can to eff it up for your team.


Good luck on the run to get back to the Finals next year. I think it'll be tougher than you think.

This morning on ESPNEWS they reported Jackson didn't want to travel w/ w/ the team which became a problem w/ the Lakers owner because he wants a coach fully committed to the team. And I'm not talking smack, just pointing out obvious facts. And how can you call SVG the "Master Of Panic" when before Shaq said something, I'm sure you knew nothing about him. I'm sure he did alot of that when we beat the defending NBA Champions and LeBot. We had two games (Game 2 & 4) we should have taken which would have TOTALLY changed that series..we just didn't finish them. It came down to Orlando LOSING those games (Courtney Lee missed layup in Game 2 and us blowing the lead in Game 4) that costed us the Finals. So, lay off SVG w/ this panic nonsense. If he was doing that, how did we win Game 7 in Boston?

See ya next year Lakers

This is from yesterday:


Quote:
The GM also addressed Phil Jackson’s comments on ESPN radio yesterday that suggested the coach and Kupchak had discussed Jackson’s not traveling as much should he return: “Yes, Phil and I had a long discussion this morning, and the short of it is, what he said he didn’t mean it to sound the way it sounded. If he comes back to coach, he will come back and coach both home and away games. I guess there was a hypothetical approach to the question, and Phil answered the question, but today my discussion with him was that type of scenario doesn’t work, and that’s his opinion as well.”


And then this from today:


Quote:
Just reported by Laker Rob on the radio (AM570-Lakers Flagship station) according to Frank Hamblin - Phil will be back and he will coach fulltime.


So easily you forget about games 1 and 5, where Stan had nothing for what was being thrown at his team. Good luck with SVG. And good job assuming you know what I know about him, or anything for that matter. You're great at that.

w/ Phil Jackson..who cares. I certainly don't. You have your own thread..just telling you what I saw this morning.

And as or SVG, Game 1 and 5? Nothing for what was being thrown at him? I don't see any panic there..I just see a simply better Laker ball club. You beat us those games. We won Game 3 and should have won 2 & 4. And yes, if you are going to call SVG the "Master of Panic" I am going to assume what you know of him..considering 'Van Gundy' and 'panic' have never been in the same sentence of any of your posts until Shaq mentioned something of it.

I just used a fun nickname that obviously hits a little too close to home for you. How exactly is he not though, with the way he constantly is screaming and blurting out crazy stuff all over the sideline? He's an emotional wreck out there. It's no wonder he hasn't had an aneurysm already.


Whatever, man. I'm not trying to bag on you guys. Good luck next year, and all that.
Originally posted by jrg:
Just for the fun of it


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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by GameOver:
^fair enough, but I just dont see Vince being a "team player" in this one...i plan on hearing a lot from him...during the season...lol


however, lol, nice touch at the end...good luck jrg, dino, and VA...hope your offseason goes well and not ballistic...

I wouldnt mind seeing you guys in the Finals again...thatd be a huge shot to Shaq+LeBot which would be too funny to see on TV...again...lol

I think first off, Vince will be happy to be winning ball games after being stuck in NJ with basically nothing for the majority of his career. He's coming to play w/ the best young C and a LEGIT team for once. May sway his point of view..or hopefully I hope so. Maybe he finishes the game w/ 10 points, but Orlando wins. That should be all that matters. Hell, I'll take his 30+ performances..but winning games is all that matters. Hopefully he sees that as well.

Haha, yeah..good luck to you guys as well, I wouldn't be surprised w/ another Lakers/Magic Finals..hopefully the old saying "Paybacks a b***h" comes into play here.

Your overconfidence is overwhelming. The Magic will find out how hard it is to get back, next year. Can they? Maybe. But you seem to have looked past your conference competition getting stronger, as well.


As far as my opinion on Vince, I'm skeptical, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Wait, I thought it would be Spurs/Magic?

You thought wrong. We're going back to back. If not another 3-peat. Remember, Phil has never won anything less than 3 in a row.



But back to the Magic: What's the story of they lose Hedo?

Jackson won't be back w/ LA next year..health problems, doesn't wanna travel w/ the team...part time coach..get outta here w/ that nonsense. You guys need a coach before you talk about repeating..and 3-peat?

Back to the Magic...IF Hedo doesn't re-sign to play w/ us, I've seen alot of stuff regarding Hedo, Redick/Anderson, draft picks to Toronto for Chris Bosh. Who knows. I'd rather have Hedo to keep this rotation going..but what will happen. DeVos apparently intends to dig deep in the pockets to keep Hedo in a Magic jersey and even if he doesn't and even if we don't make a move for Bosh/Boozer, we still have:

Nelson
Carter
Pietrus
Lewis
Howard

Losing the NBA Finals to us must have made you block out any Laker news, lately. Phil and Mitch already put the part time gig to rest, saying it got blown out of proportion and wouldn't be happening. Phil should be back next year. What's really funny is you trying to talk smack about OUR coaching situation when you have the Master of Panic on your bench doing everything he can to eff it up for your team.


Good luck on the run to get back to the Finals next year. I think it'll be tougher than you think.

This morning on ESPNEWS they reported Jackson didn't want to travel w/ w/ the team which became a problem w/ the Lakers owner because he wants a coach fully committed to the team. And I'm not talking smack, just pointing out obvious facts. And how can you call SVG the "Master Of Panic" when before Shaq said something, I'm sure you knew nothing about him. I'm sure he did alot of that when we beat the defending NBA Champions and LeBot. We had two games (Game 2 & 4) we should have taken which would have TOTALLY changed that series..we just didn't finish them. It came down to Orlando LOSING those games (Courtney Lee missed layup in Game 2 and us blowing the lead in Game 4) that costed us the Finals. So, lay off SVG w/ this panic nonsense. If he was doing that, how did we win Game 7 in Boston?

See ya next year Lakers

This is from yesterday:


Quote:
The GM also addressed Phil Jackson’s comments on ESPN radio yesterday that suggested the coach and Kupchak had discussed Jackson’s not traveling as much should he return: “Yes, Phil and I had a long discussion this morning, and the short of it is, what he said he didn’t mean it to sound the way it sounded. If he comes back to coach, he will come back and coach both home and away games. I guess there was a hypothetical approach to the question, and Phil answered the question, but today my discussion with him was that type of scenario doesn’t work, and that’s his opinion as well.”


And then this from today:


Quote:
Just reported by Laker Rob on the radio (AM570-Lakers Flagship station) according to Frank Hamblin - Phil will be back and he will coach fulltime.


So easily you forget about games 1 and 5, where Stan had nothing for what was being thrown at his team. Good luck with SVG. And good job assuming you know what I know about him, or anything for that matter. You're great at that.

w/ Phil Jackson..who cares. I certainly don't. You have your own thread..just telling you what I saw this morning.

And as or SVG, Game 1 and 5? Nothing for what was being thrown at him? I don't see any panic there..I just see a simply better Laker ball club. You beat us those games. We won Game 3 and should have won 2 & 4. And yes, if you are going to call SVG the "Master of Panic" I am going to assume what you know of him..considering 'Van Gundy' and 'panic' have never been in the same sentence of any of your posts until Shaq mentioned something of it.

I just used a fun nickname that obviously hits a little too close to home for you. How exactly is he not though, with the way he constantly is screaming and blurting out crazy stuff all over the sideline? He's an emotional wreck out there. It's no wonder he hasn't had an aneurysm already.


Whatever, man. I'm not trying to bag on you guys. Good luck next year, and all that.

Lol, you're not the first to use it..its all popped up since the interview w/ Shaq on ESPN and his Twitter nonsense. He screams like that because he coaches w/ a very high intensity and expects alot of his teams. Other coaches (and I'm not bashing) like Phil can mumble, stay quiet, and keep his cool on the sidelines..but SVG is all out..screaming, jumping all over the place..he expects alot out of his players and I love it. I hate for a coach to just sit there on the sideline and watch. I want him as into the game as the players.

Good luck to you as well.
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Also (not telling you how to do your job) but, can you move this thread into the Orlando Off season thread? We don't really need two.
Originally posted by jrg:
Also (not telling you how to do your job) but, can you move this thread into the Orlando Off season thread? We don't really need two.

I'm was going to, but didn't want to piss you guys off.
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by jrg:
Also (not telling you how to do your job) but, can you move this thread into the Orlando Off season thread? We don't really need two.

I'm was going to, but didn't want to piss you guys off.

Its all good.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
I think one player who is really underrated in this deal is ryan anderson. hes a good shooter which fits orlando's system and hes a decent rebounder with some size for the 4 spot.

Exactly. Otis Smith said that this made the trade with CLee happen. Anderson may well in fact be the steal.
Otis Smith just said on ESPN that keeping Turkoglu is now a longshot. The Magic got worse this offseason. Losing Gortat, Hedo, and Battie makes them a lot smaller. Courtney Lee played great for a rookie last season (has playoff exp.) but so did Anderson. Let's see how Anderson fits in first. VC is one of my favorite players ever but he's not what he once was. Turkoglu was a big part of the Magic last season. Dwight Howard should get better. I think they'll be able to compete for the championship still.
Originally posted by Jesse:
Otis Smith just said on ESPN that keeping Turkoglu is now a longshot. The Magic got worse this offseason. Losing Gortat, Hedo, and Battie makes them a lot smaller. Courtney Lee played great for a rookie last season (has playoff exp.) but so did Anderson. Let's see how Anderson fits in first. VC is one of my favorite players ever but he's not what he once was. Turkoglu was a big part of the Magic last season. Dwight Howard should get better. I think they'll be able to compete for the championship still.

f**k Vince Carter...I'm sorry guys, I like the Magic and all, but Vince Carter is a piece of s**t and refuse to cheer for him.

Don't take it personal next season when I hate on him...

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Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by Jesse:
Otis Smith just said on ESPN that keeping Turkoglu is now a longshot. The Magic got worse this offseason. Losing Gortat, Hedo, and Battie makes them a lot smaller. Courtney Lee played great for a rookie last season (has playoff exp.) but so did Anderson. Let's see how Anderson fits in first. VC is one of my favorite players ever but he's not what he once was. Turkoglu was a big part of the Magic last season. Dwight Howard should get better. I think they'll be able to compete for the championship still.

f**k Vince Carter...I'm sorry guys, I like the Magic and all, but Vince Carter is a piece of s**t and refuse to cheer for him.

Don't take it personal next season when I hate on him...

You're a Raptors fan..its cool
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by Jesse:
Otis Smith just said on ESPN that keeping Turkoglu is now a longshot. The Magic got worse this offseason. Losing Gortat, Hedo, and Battie makes them a lot smaller. Courtney Lee played great for a rookie last season (has playoff exp.) but so did Anderson. Let's see how Anderson fits in first. VC is one of my favorite players ever but he's not what he once was. Turkoglu was a big part of the Magic last season. Dwight Howard should get better. I think they'll be able to compete for the championship still.

f**k Vince Carter...I'm sorry guys, I like the Magic and all, but Vince Carter is a piece of s**t and refuse to cheer for him.

Don't take it personal next season when I hate on him...

You're a Raptors fan..its cool

the way he left the Raptors still makes me sick...

"I'm not dunking anymore"

never forget that...
Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by Jesse:
Otis Smith just said on ESPN that keeping Turkoglu is now a longshot. The Magic got worse this offseason. Losing Gortat, Hedo, and Battie makes them a lot smaller. Courtney Lee played great for a rookie last season (has playoff exp.) but so did Anderson. Let's see how Anderson fits in first. VC is one of my favorite players ever but he's not what he once was. Turkoglu was a big part of the Magic last season. Dwight Howard should get better. I think they'll be able to compete for the championship still.

f**k Vince Carter...I'm sorry guys, I like the Magic and all, but Vince Carter is a piece of s**t and refuse to cheer for him.

Don't take it personal next season when I hate on him...

You're a Raptors fan..its cool

the way he left the Raptors still makes me sick...

"I'm not dunking anymore"

never forget that...

What about Tracy Mcgriddle?
Originally posted by Jesse:
Otis Smith just said on ESPN that keeping Turkoglu is now a longshot. The Magic got worse this offseason. Losing Gortat, Hedo, and Battie makes them a lot smaller. Courtney Lee played great for a rookie last season (has playoff exp.) but so did Anderson. Let's see how Anderson fits in first. VC is one of my favorite players ever but he's not what he once was. Turkoglu was a big part of the Magic last season. Dwight Howard should get better. I think they'll be able to compete for the championship still.

Hedo will be good, but he does tend to be inconsistent as was during the playoffs when the Magic needed him the most. Plus his frustrations didnt help. Battie is gone, and that is good. Gortat isnt gone yet.

Maybe Vince will play better now since he is at home and on a championship caliber team. He even said during his press conference that he never played with a legit big man until D12. I am excited to see what he and D12 will be doing.

Now the Magic can go for a legit PF (Sheed? Boozer?) to help D12, along with some cheap depth. This will allow Lewis to revert back to SF his natural position. With Vince at SG and Jameer back at PG...............oh boy!
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