49ers select Kaelon Black, RB, Indiana at no. 90

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Heroism:
how are they so bad at this after a decade?

It's absolutely inexplicable. How tf do we expect this to help us compete with Seattle? HOW??

Kyle is a genius. Don't worry, for reasons not his fault we will not win again next season.

Kyle is arrogant and despite being wrong over and over with his rd 1-3 draft picks, he thinks he will 'win' this time. He's like a gambler losing his bets but he's sure that this time he will win. Black probably would have been available in rd 5, could have definitely picked in rd 4. Should have traded back and picked up another 2027 pick etc

Arrogant gamblers like Kyle need to be stopped from ruining the team by the owner (Jed) bringing in a good draft GM

This team is ruined?

Originally posted by Crown:
This team is ruined?

Not in my opinion, I'm actually really impressed with where the team is from 2 seasons ago.

I really like a lot of our young defensive players. I think they're very promising. Idk what we are this year but last year we had the 3rd youngest defense, which is promising.

our offense is old but we have a bunch of speed now. Really solid veterans. Only real concerns I have are IOL and TE. I'm really hoping the young TEs take a big leap. I'm hoping someone can step up and impress at LG.

the strategy, in my opinion, is to have a young, energetic, promising defense - while our offense is more veteran and established.

if we can stay healthy - we have as good a chance as anyone, IMO.

Originally posted by maxsmart:
Kyle is arrogant and despite being wrong over and over with his rd 1-3 draft picks, he thinks he will 'win' this time. He's like a gambler losing his bets but he's sure that this time he will win. Black probably would have been available in rd 5, could have definitely picked in rd 4. Should have traded back and picked up another 2027 pick etc

Arrogant gamblers like Kyle need to be stopped from ruining the team by the owner (Jed) bringing in a good draft GM

Sorry, but no. You think that Black might have been available in round 5. I think that was highly unlikely, so we agree to differ. But to say that he could definitely have been picked in round 4 is just wrong. There were 10 more picks left in round 3 and a further 6 in round 4 before our next pick. It is clear that the team were set on Black, in which case they were right to take him when they thought best. Running backs had not flown off the board at that stage, and there is no reason to believe that no other team wanted him. It would have been a gamble, not a definite.

I don't accept your point about Shanahan ruining the team either. I have argued several times in, I think, the Lynch thread that posters who damn Lynch for his drafting are missing the point that drafting is just luck and by no means the only way to develop a team. And I am not sure that I recognise this "good draft GM" that you want Jed to bring in. If it was that simple, other teams would be grabbing them off the shelves. Anyway, drafting isn't just down to the GM, or the HC. There is the scouts, the coordinators, the coaches and so on.

My six pennyworth.

Originally posted by English:
Sorry, but no. You think that Black might have been available in round 5. I think that was highly unlikely, so we agree to differ. But to say that he could definitely have been picked in round 4 is just wrong. There were 10 more picks left in round 3 and a further 6 in round 4 before our next pick. It is clear that the team were set on Black, in which case they were right to take him when they thought best. Running backs had not flown off the board at that stage, and there is no reason to believe that no other team wanted him. It would have been a gamble, not a definite.

I don't accept your point about Shanahan ruining the team either. I have argued several times in, I think, the Lynch thread that posters who damn Lynch for his drafting are missing the point that drafting is just luck and by no means the only way to develop a team. And I am not sure that I recognise this "good draft GM" that you want Jed to bring in. If it was that simple, other teams would be grabbing them off the shelves. Anyway, drafting isn't just down to the GM, or the HC. There is the scouts, the coordinators, the coaches and so on.

My six pennyworth.

No idea why but "my six pennyworth" had me laughing way more than it should have bro

Originally posted by maxsmart:
Black probably would have been available in rd 5, could have definitely picked in rd 4.

I don't know. I just looked at the entrails of a sheep and it's clear that he would have been picked in the very next pick. You have never seen a liver speak so clearly. And a hawk flew over my left shoulder and pooped just missing me. Any good augur knows that this was a warning from Jupiter to not waste the opportunity to draft him.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
No idea why but "my six pennyworth" had me laughing way more than it should have bro

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by ninerAxe:
Let's not forget Gore is a scout for the team. Probably had a say or contributed in some manner.

This is a great point that needed to be highlighted. You guys don't think they ask Gore's opinion on all the RBs? Of course they do.

Gore wanted Washington.

Do you have a source for that?

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by English:
Sorry, but no. You think that Black might have been available in round 5. I think that was highly unlikely, so we agree to differ. But to say that he could definitely have been picked in round 4 is just wrong. There were 10 more picks left in round 3 and a further 6 in round 4 before our next pick. It is clear that the team were set on Black, in which case they were right to take him when they thought best. Running backs had not flown off the board at that stage, and there is no reason to believe that no other team wanted him. It would have been a gamble, not a definite.

I don't accept your point about Shanahan ruining the team either. I have argued several times in, I think, the Lynch thread that posters who damn Lynch for his drafting are missing the point that drafting is just luck and by no means the only way to develop a team. And I am not sure that I recognise this "good draft GM" that you want Jed to bring in. If it was that simple, other teams would be grabbing them off the shelves. Anyway, drafting isn't just down to the GM, or the HC. There is the scouts, the coordinators, the coaches and so on.

My six pennyworth.

No idea why but "my six pennyworth" had me laughing way more than it should have bro

Inflation happened

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by English:
Sorry, but no. You think that Black might have been available in round 5. I think that was highly unlikely, so we agree to differ. But to say that he could definitely have been picked in round 4 is just wrong. There were 10 more picks left in round 3 and a further 6 in round 4 before our next pick. It is clear that the team were set on Black, in which case they were right to take him when they thought best. Running backs had not flown off the board at that stage, and there is no reason to believe that no other team wanted him. It would have been a gamble, not a definite.

I don't accept your point about Shanahan ruining the team either. I have argued several times in, I think, the Lynch thread that posters who damn Lynch for his drafting are missing the point that drafting is just luck and by no means the only way to develop a team. And I am not sure that I recognise this "good draft GM" that you want Jed to bring in. If it was that simple, other teams would be grabbing them off the shelves. Anyway, drafting isn't just down to the GM, or the HC. There is the scouts, the coordinators, the coaches and so on.

My six pennyworth.

No idea why but "my six pennyworth" had me laughing way more than it should have bro

Inflation happened

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Crown:
This team is ruined?

Not in my opinion, I'm actually really impressed with where the team is from 2 seasons ago.

I really like a lot of our young defensive players. I think they're very promising. Idk what we are this year but last year we had the 3rd youngest defense, which is promising.

our offense is old but we have a bunch of speed now. Really solid veterans. Only real concerns I have are IOL and TE. I'm really hoping the young TEs take a big leap. I'm hoping someone can step up and impress at LG.

the strategy, in my opinion, is to have a young, energetic, promising defense - while our offense is more veteran and established.

if we can stay healthy - we have as good a chance as anyone, IMO.

agree with you.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by maxsmart:
Kyle is arrogant and despite being wrong over and over with his rd 1-3 draft picks, he thinks he will 'win' this time. He's like a gambler losing his bets but he's sure that this time he will win. Black probably would have been available in rd 5, could have definitely picked in rd 4. Should have traded back and picked up another 2027 pick etc

Arrogant gamblers like Kyle need to be stopped from ruining the team by the owner (Jed) bringing in a good draft GM

Sorry, but no. You think that Black might have been available in round 5. I think that was highly unlikely, so we agree to differ. But to say that he could definitely have been picked in round 4 is just wrong. There were 10 more picks left in round 3 and a further 6 in round 4 before our next pick. It is clear that the team were set on Black, in which case they were right to take him when they thought best. Running backs had not flown off the board at that stage, and there is no reason to believe that no other team wanted him. It would have been a gamble, not a definite.

I don't accept your point about Shanahan ruining the team either. I have argued several times in, I think, the Lynch thread that posters who damn Lynch for his drafting are missing the point that drafting is just luck and by no means the only way to develop a team. And I am not sure that I recognise this "good draft GM" that you want Jed to bring in. If it was that simple, other teams would be grabbing them off the shelves. Anyway, drafting isn't just down to the GM, or the HC. There is the scouts, the coordinators, the coaches and so on.

My six pennyworth.

I have zero problem or pennyworth for them taking black where they did.

my problem is will he actually be used or just buried like James.

Originally posted by Stevec9932:
FG should have been a 1st ballot HOFer

I can see Frank Gore being an assistant running back coach one of these days. I think he's on the player personnel staff - so he can scout and develop players the way Bobby Turner seems to do - when Coach Turner retires.

Two 49er running backs in the 2026 draft class would have been stunningly fantastic!

Originally posted by tankle104:
That's because for the last 10 seasons, we've almost always been top 5 In injuries. to make matters worse, we tend to lose key players to major innjries,
not role players.

Kyle did say that James was making progress towards getting snaps last year. He got injured sometime early in the season, I don't remember if it was training camp or pre season. So James was behind in that regard.

based on James college play, he reminded me a lot of gores running style. Hopefully he can become half the player gore was.

our running back room (CMC/black/James) lacks speed though. It's unlikely any of those three will take it 75 yards to the house - they most likely can't out run the defense. All our speed is at the WR position.

I like how the 49er defense handled all the injuries. Despite Warner and Bosa going down, they still made the playoffs. What I think they did, is simply draft a lot of promising young players and when the starters went down, the backups stepped in and developed throughout the course of the season. I think that's really the only way to deal with the annual injury situation.

If you have more raw but young talent behind the starters that can step in, injuries actually help you develop them, via having them experience real in game reps. That means you need more draft picks because draft picks are on contract for at least 3 years, first round picks are on the team for 4 years. Trade down = more draft picks. So I think the way they handled this years draft is a good model for future drafts, at least I hope they think so.

Originally posted by Crown:
I have zero problem or pennyworth for them taking black where they did.

my problem is will he actually be used or just buried like James.

He's going to play. Brian Robinson Jr is no longer around and he played 20% of offensive snaps last year and had 100 touches from scrimmage.

It's funny that Black is 2 years and 5 months older than Jordan James.