Discussion: Steps to Fix the 49ers

You know it's real bad when threads like these come out.

Originally posted by Predator85:
Pay your consistently good players (like Buckner), not your one year wonders.

Still stuck on that one ehh? Move on.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
You know it's real bad when threads like these come out.

Haha some people were waiving the white flag after Purdy threw his first interception or we lost our first and second games early.

I also believe we should have been playing our rookies earlier. I don't like them never seeing the field bc when you need them it won't work. Like one of Brock's picks was a timing route with Cow. Cow is never in the game. Timing will be off. Duhh!!! Let them play now and get back to running Mason and G.

Nobody stops father time nor the cap.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

THIS YEAR:

1) Adjust the offense to include more of the quick game to stretch the defense wider. Who cares if the offense is dink and dunk if it moves the chains. This can help open up the middle for running and potentially provide more chances for deep play action.

2) Utilize Brock's running ability more. That means zone reads and QB RPO on draws. Just make sure he knows to be safe.

3) Scheme up some more creative formations, motions, and misdirection that teams haven't seen before. Especially for short yardage and the red zone. Keeping teams guessing in those situations will make us a lot more unpredictable, more dangerous, and consequentially more effective/successful in those spots.


NEXT YEAR/FUTURE:

1) Fix the weak spots on OL (LG, C, RT). With a shorter QB, you need a beefier interior OL to keep guys out of his face so Brock has lanes more consistently and or more space in front of him so that when he releases it, the ball can be over the heads of the DL/OL instead of the trajectory being cutoff from a shorter distance which leads to more deflections/batdowns. I'd draft a center and OT, and sign competition. I might even try Jaylon Moore at LG if he's brought back. If Feliciano can return, he may be a cheap option at C.

2) Draft a future star at LB and competition at S, along with depth at DE. I like Sam O in the rotation. He's still got upside but needs to learn more moves. We might consider signing a safety for competition too.

3) Put a massive emphasis on acquiring proven talents on special teams in FA and the draft. That means guys who can tackle downfield, and block for returns, but also threats to score on returns.

OK so Brock is running more and Kyle has been a little more creative but we're still not getting enough quick hitters or screens..


To update my list now.. And add to it for the future part..

* FIRE/REASSIGN SORENSEN - I've never seen such situationally awful football on defense. He never seems to have the right answers to get off the field on third down. Especially third and long, which is ridiculous. Red zone, short yardage, and under two minutes we just never stop anyone when we need to. There will be too many guys out there who are upgrades to not bring them in.

* FIRE BRIAN SCHNEIDER - We have by far the worst unit in the league and we've not been good enough for years.

* Cut the dead weight. That means let Deebo go. He's a captain but reminds me of post injury Bowman, just not the same player anymore. Let Banks walk, bench Brendel and McKivitz, and draft their replacements. It's also time to admit Juice isn't doing much to help the offense anymore. I don't think he's blocking as well as he used to and no one's afraid of him split out wide..

* Get more speed at receiver to benefit from an improved OL.

* Get a LOT of help at linebacker. We need two more starting caliber guys ready in the wings. Fred needs help.

* Get Safety competition for Brown.

We need to blow up this team and get rid of dead weight. That means pretty much everyone besides CMC, Bosa, Fred, and Probably Brock. Love me some Kittle but shannahan doesnt use him right. If we can get out of the Deebo contract, DO IT! we're probably stuck with the Ayiuk and Trent contract for a couple of years.

Originally posted by Yeti:
We need to blow up this team and get rid of dead weight. That means pretty much everyone besides CMC, Bosa, Fred, and Probably Brock. Love me some Kittle but shannahan doesnt use him right. If we can get out of the Deebo contract, DO IT! we're probably stuck with the Ayiuk and Trent contract for a couple of years.

Ground Hog day.

Originally posted by Yeti:
We need to blow up this team and get rid of dead weight. That means pretty much everyone besides CMC, Bosa, Fred, and Probably Brock. Love me some Kittle but shannahan doesnt use him right. If we can get out of the Deebo contract, DO IT! we're probably stuck with the Ayiuk and Trent contract for a couple of years.

McCaffery is the highest paid running back in the league and looks like he's running in sand right now.

Originally posted by redrathman:

Originally posted by Yeti:
We need to blow up this team and get rid of dead weight. That means pretty much everyone besides CMC, Bosa, Fred, and Probably Brock. Love me some Kittle but shannahan doesnt use him right. If we can get out of the Deebo contract, DO IT! we're probably stuck with the Ayiuk and Trent contract for a couple of years.

McCaffery is the highest paid running back in the league and looks like he's running in sand right now.

you can't expect players who sit this long and be in top form.. this aint Madden

Trent, Aiyuk and injuries screwed our entire season.. play out the season without any more injuries (knocks on wood) and come back ready for next year

So, the further we get, the more we can see what needs to be done. Here's a quick recap of steps so far on how to improve the quality of each of the following areas:

COACHING STAFF
- Fire Brian Schneider & Nick Sorensen
- Add Saleh or Jim Schwartz if available

OFFENSIVE SCHEME
- More quick hitters, screens, picks, and rubs
- Start having Brock set protection calls in key situations (3rd down, under 2 min, etc.) -- shouldn't be too hard to do on a limited basis

DEFENSIVE SCHEME
- More disguised blitzes & coverages
- coach hard on lane integrity

PERSONNEL IMPROVEMENTS
- Draft/sign new quality OL (C & OT minimum), LB, FS, TE, DE, DT, and speed WR to replace poor performers or overpaid players

FINANCIAL IMPROVEMENT
- Release Hargrave, Leonard Floyd (Post-Jun 1)
- Trade or release Deebo (Post Jun 1)
- Trade or release Juice
- Do not re-sign Banks, Ward, Campbell, Yiadom, Givens, or DFF, and replacement them with cheaper upgrades in draft

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
So, the further we get, the more we can see what needs to be done. Here's a quick recap of steps so far on how to improve the quality of each of the following areas:

COACHING STAFF
- Fire Brian Schneider & Nick Sorensen
- Add Saleh or Jim Schwartz if available

OFFENSIVE SCHEME
- More quick hitters, screens, picks, and rubs
- Start having Brock set protection calls in key situations (3rd down, under 2 min, etc.) -- shouldn't be too hard to do on a limited basis

DEFENSIVE SCHEME
- More disguised blitzes & coverages
- coach hard on lane integrity

PERSONNEL IMPROVEMENTS
- Draft/sign new quality OL (C & OT minimum), LB, FS, TE, DE, DT, and speed WR to replace poor performers or overpaid players

FINANCIAL IMPROVEMENT
- Release Hargrave, Leonard Floyd (Post-Jun 1)
- Trade or release Deebo (Post Jun 1)
- Trade or release Juice
- Do not re-sign Banks, Ward, Campbell, Yiadom, Givens, or DFF, and replacement them with cheaper upgrades in draft

That's a lot of changes.. if we could have made a few plays here and there with us being at least with a 8-2 record, would you want to make all these changes ?

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
So, the further we get, the more we can see what needs to be done. Here's a quick recap of steps so far on how to improve the quality of each of the following areas:

COACHING STAFF
- Fire Brian Schneider & Nick Sorensen
- Add Saleh or Jim Schwartz if available

OFFENSIVE SCHEME
- More quick hitters, screens, picks, and rubs
- Start having Brock set protection calls in key situations (3rd down, under 2 min, etc.) -- shouldn't be too hard to do on a limited basis

DEFENSIVE SCHEME
- More disguised blitzes & coverages
- coach hard on lane integrity

PERSONNEL IMPROVEMENTS
- Draft/sign new quality OL (C & OT minimum), LB, FS, TE, DE, DT, and speed WR to replace poor performers or overpaid players

FINANCIAL IMPROVEMENT
- Release Hargrave, Leonard Floyd (Post-Jun 1)
- Trade or release Deebo (Post Jun 1)
- Trade or release Juice
- Do not re-sign Banks, Ward, Campbell, Yiadom, Givens, or DFF, and replacement them with cheaper upgrades in draft

This makes a lot of sense. Very doable. I would keep Givens he is nice depth and cheap.

hopefully we have team friendly deal with Brock so we can sign that DE or C in free agency.

I would also reassign greenlaw to 1 year prove it deal.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

So, the further we get, the more we can see what needs to be done. Here's a quick recap of steps so far on how to improve the quality of each of the following areas:

COACHING STAFF
- Fire Brian Schneider & Nick Sorensen
- Add Saleh or Jim Schwartz if available

OFFENSIVE SCHEME
- More quick hitters, screens, picks, and rubs
- Start having Brock set protection calls in key situations (3rd down, under 2 min, etc.) -- shouldn't be too hard to do on a limited basis

DEFENSIVE SCHEME
- More disguised blitzes & coverages
- coach hard on lane integrity

PERSONNEL IMPROVEMENTS
- Draft/sign new quality OL (C & OT minimum), LB, FS, TE, DE, DT, and speed WR to replace poor performers or overpaid players

FINANCIAL IMPROVEMENT
- Release Hargrave, Leonard Floyd (Post-Jun 1)
- Trade or release Deebo (Post Jun 1)
- Trade or release Juice
- Do not re-sign Banks, Ward, Campbell, Yiadom, Givens, or DFF, and replacement them with cheaper upgrades in draft

That's a lot of changes.. if we could have made a few plays here and there with us being at least with a 8-2 record, would you want to make all these changes ?

Over the years, I've noticed that it always seems like more when you write something all out, but yes, I do think if we got to 8-2 while being this sloppy, I'd still press for changes.

Some of these are things that need to be done regardless of circumstances, like the financial stuff and personnel.

I think firing Sorensen and improving the scheme go hand in hand so that's kind of a bundle. For Kyle, it's really only a couple tweaks so I don't think it's overall as much as it seems. Really believe we'd benefit from all the above IMO.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
So, the further we get, the more we can see what needs to be done. Here's a quick recap of steps so far on how to improve the quality of each of the following areas:

COACHING STAFF
- Fire Brian Schneider & Nick Sorensen
- Add Saleh or Jim Schwartz if available

OFFENSIVE SCHEME
- More quick hitters, screens, picks, and rubs
- Start having Brock set protection calls in key situations (3rd down, under 2 min, etc.) -- shouldn't be too hard to do on a limited basis

DEFENSIVE SCHEME
- More disguised blitzes & coverages
- coach hard on lane integrity

PERSONNEL IMPROVEMENTS
- Draft/sign new quality OL (C & OT minimum), LB, FS, TE, DE, DT, and speed WR to replace poor performers or overpaid players

FINANCIAL IMPROVEMENT
- Release Hargrave, Leonard Floyd (Post-Jun 1)
- Trade or release Deebo (Post Jun 1)
- Trade or release Juice
- Do not re-sign Banks, Ward, Campbell, Yiadom, Givens, or DFF, and replacement them with cheaper upgrades in draft

That's a lot of changes.. if we could have made a few plays here and there with us being at least with a 8-2 record, would you want to make all these changes ?

Absolutely. Even if this team was 8-2 they'd get curb stomped in the playoffs. Haven't had one blowout win this season and they've played some pretty bad teams. I still think health was the biggest factor this season, but it shined a light on all of the other weaknesses.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
So, the further we get, the more we can see what needs to be done. Here's a quick recap of steps so far on how to improve the quality of each of the following areas:

COACHING STAFF
- Fire Brian Schneider & Nick Sorensen
- Add Saleh or Jim Schwartz if available

OFFENSIVE SCHEME
- More quick hitters, screens, picks, and rubs
- Start having Brock set protection calls in key situations (3rd down, under 2 min, etc.) -- shouldn't be too hard to do on a limited basis

DEFENSIVE SCHEME
- More disguised blitzes & coverages
- coach hard on lane integrity

PERSONNEL IMPROVEMENTS
- Draft/sign new quality OL (C & OT minimum), LB, FS, TE, DE, DT, and speed WR to replace poor performers or overpaid players

FINANCIAL IMPROVEMENT
- Release Hargrave, Leonard Floyd (Post-Jun 1)
- Trade or release Deebo (Post Jun 1)
- Trade or release Juice
- Do not re-sign Banks, Ward, Campbell, Yiadom, Givens, or DFF, and replacement them with cheaper upgrades in draft

I'd add Ulbrich to the DC options.