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Originally posted by goatroppolo:
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
We play well at home. We will win at home our next 2 for sure. Not as certain at Seattle unless McCaffrey is back.

I also think we beat the Chiefs and Dallas at home as well.

How can you possibly say you think we beat the chiefs. With this D they may hang a 50 burger on us

Must be nice to be that optimistic. I miss that feeling.
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by goatroppolo:
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
We play well at home. We will win at home our next 2 for sure. Not as certain at Seattle unless McCaffrey is back.

I also think we beat the Chiefs and Dallas at home as well.

How can you possibly say you think we beat the chiefs. With this D they may hang a 50 burger on us

Must be nice to be that optimistic. I miss that feeling.

Beat the Chiefs

the sad part is that Spags will throw the same exact looks with man coverage at Shanahan, and he still won't have an answer bc he's so stoic and inflexible with his offensive scheme…
Originally posted by DrEll:
Beat the Chiefs

the sad part is that Spags will throw the same exact looks with man coverage at Shanahan, and he still won't have an answer bc he's so stoic and inflexible with his offensive scheme…

My question is why can't we do any of the s**t that the chiefs, or Flores in Minny does. The D is so predictable and vanilla
The Chiefs could easily be 0-3 right now. We beat them at home by 14.
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Originally posted by goatroppolo:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Beat the Chiefs

the sad part is that Spags will throw the same exact looks with man coverage at Shanahan, and he still won't have an answer bc he's so stoic and inflexible with his offensive scheme…

My question is why can't we do any of the s**t that the chiefs, or Flores in Minny does. The D is so predictable and vanilla

Because Kyle doesn't want to change. Vic Fangio was a consultant for this team a couple years ago. We refused to hire him as D coordinator bc Shanahan didn't want to change the scheme. Wilks, and by extension Sorensen, are byproducts of a coach who has no interest in trying something different…
Originally posted by DrEll:
Because Kyle doesn't want to change. Vic Fangio was a consultant for this team a couple years ago. We refused to hire him as D coordinator bc Shanahan didn't want to change the scheme. Wilks, and by extension Sorensen, are byproducts of a coach who has no interest in trying something different…

Well we are in trouble then because it looks very easy to move the ball on us. I'm sick of how vanilla we are. QB's today get confused very easy we should do some things to confuse or make them hesitate
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Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
The Chiefs could easily be 0-3 right now. We beat them at home by 14.

They handle those key moments...we dont
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Originally posted by goatroppolo:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Because Kyle doesn't want to change. Vic Fangio was a consultant for this team a couple years ago. We refused to hire him as D coordinator bc Shanahan didn't want to change the scheme. Wilks, and by extension Sorensen, are byproducts of a coach who has no interest in trying something different…

Well we are in trouble then because it looks very easy to move the ball on us. I'm sick of how vanilla we are. QB's today get confused very easy we should do some things to confuse or make them hesitate

Talk radio guys mentioned something interesting that I didn't know, Wilks wanted to bring his own scheme in but Shanny didn't want it and was forced to learn the scheme already in place. Reason why Wilks took so long to grasp it and probably never really learned it completely.

Honestly, right now, I think he did a better job than Sorenson as of today and Sorenson has been in it longer.
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Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by goatroppolo:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Because Kyle doesn't want to change. Vic Fangio was a consultant for this team a couple years ago. We refused to hire him as D coordinator bc Shanahan didn't want to change the scheme. Wilks, and by extension Sorensen, are byproducts of a coach who has no interest in trying something different…

Well we are in trouble then because it looks very easy to move the ball on us. I'm sick of how vanilla we are. QB's today get confused very easy we should do some things to confuse or make them hesitate

Talk radio guys mentioned something interesting that I didn't know, Wilks wanted to bring his own scheme in but Shanny didn't want it and was forced to learn the scheme already in place. Reason why Wilks took so long to grasp it and probably never really learned it completely.

Honestly, right now, I think he did a better job than Sorenson as of today and Sorenson has been in it longer.

This is true. Wilks was told to work with the current scheme in place. That's why he never really adapted. Kyle is a clown 🤡
Originally posted by Baldie:
Talk radio guys mentioned something interesting that I didn't know, Wilks wanted to bring his own scheme in but Shanny didn't want it and was forced to learn the scheme already in place. Reason why Wilks took so long to grasp it and probably never really learned it completely.

Honestly, right now, I think he did a better job than Sorenson as of today and Sorenson has been in it longer.

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Originally posted by Baldie:
Talk radio guys mentioned something interesting that I didn't know, Wilks wanted to bring his own scheme in but Shanny didn't want it and was forced to learn the scheme already in place. Reason why Wilks took so long to grasp it and probably never really learned it completely.

Honestly, right now, I think he did a better job than Sorenson as of today and Sorenson has been in it longer.

Yeah, Wilkes had the secondary leading the league in interceptions, he was great in that area, at least. Sorenson is going to need time, a reason why losing to LA hurts so much. We don't have much time. Sorenson did learn his scheme concepts from Pete Carroll, so he does have experience in this scheme. It will be interesting to see how his defense responds to the LA loss.
After we lose this game we can start trading away players and rebuild. Window is closed for a while till we rebuild and that will be tough after spending way too much money on trying to keep a few players around.
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
After we lose this game we can start trading away players and rebuild. Window is closed for a while till we rebuild and that will be tough after spending way too much money on trying to keep a few players around.

I think the window is pretty closed. Rebuild time is here and Shanahan needs to go. High priced old guys need to go. We need to rebuild the lines especially through the draft. Both of them.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I think the window is pretty closed. Rebuild time is here and Shanahan needs to go. High priced old guys need to go. We need to rebuild the lines especially through the draft. Both of them.

Time to crash the team plane and have a special supplemental draft. It's the only way to be sure.
lol we thought the Rams in Levi's South was a "get right game" lol
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