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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by random49er:
Try and see if you can tone down the personal stuff. I know from your previous love affair with Jimmy how emotional you can be about your QB. But what about sticking to the topics instead of the extra stuff? It gets old to me, and I'd rather just discuss the topics, not how good or bad of a poster someone is.

Now that that's out the way...are you walking back a stupid comment?



Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
The irony

You comment on me personally when I reply to someone else, all the time.

I comment on Wooisms


LOL, hypocrisy.
[ Edited by TheWooLick on Feb 4, 2025 at 3:44 PM ]
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I am rooting for the three peat.


I am as well. If they 3 peat, no way they are back in the SB next year, or at least they won't have the refs.

Goodell won't let the Chiefs get to a 4th, so it makes our chances better.

I'm not rooting for it...but I rather KC win the game with some critical officiating being a huge talking point so the NFL almost has to go against them next year as a result.

Partly because if we didn't get it done in 2 tries, I don't want to see Nick Sirianni and that damn Eagles fanbase getting that honor. Remind people that it's really hard to beat that damn team and the refs.

I won't be losing any sleep if KC loses the game of course but I don't want to see Eagles fans happy and I definitely don't want the stupid takes that Sirianni is a better HC than Shanahan because he won a SB

Tho upside to Eagles winning is reminding people that you can still win SBs without an elite QB in place and that guy making big $.

If KC wins they are 5-2 in Super Bowls.

if Philly wins, they are 2-3 Super Bowls.

if KC wins, we'll be reminded for the rest of our lives they were one of the greatest dynasties of all time and have as many SB rings as SF and Dallas, and one less than NE and Pittsburgh.

If Philly wins, we'll soon forget they won a Super Bowl like we did with the previous win they had a decade ago.

A Philly win is a one off. A KC win is hearing about the best dynasty of all time for the next decade.

go with the lesser evil. Root for Philly.

Meh, can't be a dynasty without having one great, dominating team in any of their SB victories. Nobody ever gonna say "man, that KC team of the 2020s was one of the greatest ever." They get bludgeoned by 70s Steelers, 80s Niners, 90s Cowboys. Just saying least impressive "dynasty" ever.

I agree with your assessment. As far as last years SB, KC couldn't get past the 50 yd line until Greenlaw got injured and that punt turnover just made it worse. Until then they were getting whooped. JMHO It makes me sick to say this but I hope the Eagles kick their a@@.
[ Edited by Cg9erSF on Feb 4, 2025 at 3:49 PM ]
Originally posted by Cg9erSF:
I agree with your assessment. As far as last years SB, KC couldn't get past the 50 yd line until Greenlaw got injured and that punt turnover just made it worse. Until then they were getting whooped. JMHO It makes me sick to say this but I hope the Eagles kick their a@@.
too bad some posters here can't see that game as you and i did.. KC needs a * next to their wins
Originally posted by TopDogBerkeley:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I say give him 5/262 to represent replacing Trey Lance (#5) at pick 262. $52.4 mil per year.

Mike Florio is recommending that the 49ers make him play out this year on the current contract and negotiate a new deal after the 2025 season.

The 49ers should finalize a deal immediately since you can absolutely count on Florio being wrong.

Mike Florio just like the rest of us have 0 on the line whether the 49ers sign Brock this year or not.

Kyle and John however have a lot on the line.

Think of it this way. What does waiting another year do?

Extra games to analyze Brock? Ok….is 40 starts including playoffs not enough?

By waiting two things can happen.
1. Brock plays well - now you have less leverage as he enters UFA and now you have to pay him more due to market inflation and likely some other contracts getting done as well.
2. Brock plays poorly which likely means you had another bad season and Kyle/John may not even be around to give him a new deal.

So logically the only way to get a cheaper contract from Brock after waiting a year is increasing the chance Kyle and/or John could be fired. So why would they make that decision? It's basically gambling against your best interests.

Not to mention having the QB who saved your ass from the Lance debacle playing for peanuts in a contract year is a terrible look within the locker room AND you're risking Brock playing bad football cuz he's afraid to hurt his contract.

For the people who make these decisions and have to live and die by them…there is no real
logical reason for them to wait this out. None.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Was going to post this. This is exactly what I've been saying with regards to Brock. Especially when it comes to our offense which relies so much on timing and anticipation the inconsistency we had on offense this year very few QBs would be able to succeed.

And really Brock wasn't even that terrible despite all that. The way some talk about him it's like he was throwing for like 150 yards per game and had way more picks than TDs this year.

Sure, it's great if he's got studs all over the offense but if we give him a good OL and just some guys who are consistent and healthy he'll be able to play well.
If I was Brock - honestly, I'd totally be willing to bet on myself -- knowing my work ethic and competitiveness. I'd totally take an incentive laden contract so long as their were decent injury guarantees.

4 years - Say $45-$50mm a year with incentives - my ego wouldn't demand top salary as long as their were incentives.
Say -- +$3mm for a winning season, +$3mm for playoffs, +3mm for NFC Championship Game, +5MM for being in a superbowl, +5mm for winning the superbowl. That would total $19mm bonus for a superbowl win in a given season.

Guaranteed money $120mm
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Originally posted by HearstFan:
If I was Brock - honestly, I'd totally be willing to bet on myself -- knowing my work ethic and competitiveness. I'd totally take an incentive laden contract so long as their were decent injury guarantees.

4 years - Say $45-$50mm a year with incentives - my ego wouldn't demand top salary as long as their were incentives.
Say -- +$3mm for a winning season, +$3mm for playoffs, +3mm for NFC Championship Game, +5MM for being in a superbowl, +5mm for winning the superbowl. That would total $19mm bonus for a superbowl win in a given season.

Guaranteed money $120mm

LMAO, you most certainly would not. You're a QB in the NFL who has led your team to 2 NFCCGs and 1 SB, yet still paid so poorly that you have a roommate. But you say "what the hell, let's roll it back. I can do this another year, risking injuries or any other variable that could sideline my career."

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
LOL, hypocrisy.

Anything else about 2023?
Originally posted by genus49:
Mike Florio just like the rest of us have 0 on the line whether the 49ers sign Brock this year or not.

Kyle and John however have a lot on the line.

Think of it this way. What does waiting another year do?

Extra games to analyze Brock? Ok….is 40 starts including playoffs not enough?

By waiting two things can happen.
1. Brock plays well - now you have less leverage as he enters UFA and now you have to pay him more due to market inflation and likely some other contracts getting done as well.
2.Brock plays poorly which likely means you had another bad season and Kyle/John may not even be around to give him a new deal.

So logically the only way to get a cheaper contract from Brock after waiting a year is increasing the chance Kyle and/or John could be fired. So why would they make that decision? It's basically gambling against your best interests.

Not to mention having the QB who saved your ass from the Lance debacle playing for peanuts in a contract year is a terrible look within the locker room AND you're risking Brock playing bad football cuz he's afraid to hurt his contract.

For the people who make these decisions and have to live and die by them…there is no real
logical reason for them to wait this out. None.

Even operating under some of the assumptions you present in your post, this isn't true.

Like your number 2 possibility (if the 49ers were to not pay Brock this offseason):

'Brock plays poorly which likely means you had another bad season and Kyle/John may not even be around to give him a new deal.'

Do you think this possibility doesn't exist if Brock is signed to a long term deal now? And if he did, and had a new contract, wouldn't this reflect poorly on the guys who signed him? Why are you assuming waiting another year would be a means to get a cheaper deal instead of potentially moving on at the position?
My prediction is we will offer Brock more money than any other team would offer him had he been a free agent this year and he will sign the deal early offseason
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Cg9erSF:
I agree with your assessment. As far as last years SB, KC couldn't get past the 50 yd line until Greenlaw got injured and that punt turnover just made it worse. Until then they were getting whooped. JMHO It makes me sick to say this but I hope the Eagles kick their a@@.
too bad some posters here can't see that game as you and i did.. KC needs a * next to their wins
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by genus49:
Mike Florio just like the rest of us have 0 on the line whether the 49ers sign Brock this year or not.

Kyle and John however have a lot on the line.

Think of it this way. What does waiting another year do?

Extra games to analyze Brock? Ok….is 40 starts including playoffs not enough?

By waiting two things can happen.
1. Brock plays well - now you have less leverage as he enters UFA and now you have to pay him more due to market inflation and likely some other contracts getting done as well.
2.Brock plays poorly which likely means you had another bad season and Kyle/John may not even be around to give him a new deal.

So logically the only way to get a cheaper contract from Brock after waiting a year is increasing the chance Kyle and/or John could be fired. So why would they make that decision? It's basically gambling against your best interests.

Not to mention having the QB who saved your ass from the Lance debacle playing for peanuts in a contract year is a terrible look within the locker room AND you're risking Brock playing bad football cuz he's afraid to hurt his contract.

For the people who make these decisions and have to live and die by them…there is no real
logical reason for them to wait this out. None.

Even operating under some of the assumptions you present in your post, this isn't true.

Like your number 2 possibility (if the 49ers were to not pay Brock this offseason):

'Brock plays poorly which likely means you had another bad season and Kyle/John may not even be around to give him a new deal.'

Do you think this possibility doesn't exist if Brock is signed to a long term deal now? And if he did, and had a new contract, wouldn't this reflect poorly on the guys who signed him? Why are you assuming waiting another year would be a means to get a cheaper deal instead of potentially moving on at the position?

Fair enough...would you say this regime has proven they have a great track record at drafting top flight QBs?

They lucked into Brock Purdy. The one time they put in a ton of energy and investment into bringing in a new QB it was a MAJOR disaster, one that Brock saved them from.

Let's not forget the team is coming off a 6-11 season. They made two moves highly praised with the DC and ST Coach additions. We're getting a 4th place schedule that looks pretty easy on paper. The SB is going to be played at Levis.

What do you think the odds are that if Purdy plays poorly enough not to warrant another contract that Kyle and John both keep their jobs after next season?

Your take is that the 49ers gain the ability to walk away from Brock by not paying him now. My question is...why would they walk away from him if he plays well? So that brings us back to they would only walk away if he plays poorly aka team does poorly aka John and Kyle risk being fired after back to back poor seasons with high expectations and a lot invested.

Which brings me back to...there is no serious logical reason for THEM to wait.

Fans will still be fans regardless. Media guys will keep their jobs. Easy for them to say "just don't pay him yet"

And yes, there exists a possibly where Brock is extended and he plays poorly but if you're putting money on it as Kyle/John you're not expecting that result because Brock has shown a lot more good than bad when the team around him is solid. That type of negative thinking shouldn't factor in their decision making. It would be betting against themselves basically. AKA they wouldn't.
[ Edited by genus49 on Feb 5, 2025 at 5:59 AM ]
People still think we should wait a year...
Originally posted by HearstFan:
If I was Brock - honestly, I'd totally be willing to bet on myself -- knowing my work ethic and competitiveness. I'd totally take an incentive laden contract so long as their were decent injury guarantees.

4 years - Say $45-$50mm a year with incentives - my ego wouldn't demand top salary as long as their were incentives.
Say -- +$3mm for a winning season, +$3mm for playoffs, +3mm for NFC Championship Game, +5MM for being in a superbowl, +5mm for winning the superbowl. That would total $19mm bonus for a superbowl win in a given season.

Guaranteed money $120mm

Why should he take less money than Dak, Lawrence, Kyler, Hurts, Burrow, Love, etc? None of the QB's making 50-60 mil last year have a ring, and none have even shown the ability to win playoff games besides Burrow. Asking Purdy to take some kind of discount is insulting. He's just as accomplished, if not more, than everyone else in the top 10 salary bracket.

Every cheapskate that wants him for 40 mil, or wants to see another year of him to decide if hes legit is just being biased against him for being a 7th rounder. If he had been picked 3rd overall with the success he's had so far, nobody would be questioning giving him top 5 money. Everyone would say "Man this kid is still young and looked great so far. Lock him up!"

Florio is a moron who is out of touch with the situation. Purdy is getting paid, and the only people still doubting him are outside the building.
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