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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I need some damn Brock Purdy recovery news
Patience, butterfly - it's going to take him the full 6 months to build that elbow back up. He should be ready come the opener.
He's gonna actually need to practice well before that. You're not just tossing him out there otherwise.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Big Ben tore three flexor tendons off the bone, is that exactly the same as what happened with Purdy? I'm not being a smart ass - it's a serious question. It's hard to find specific details on these surgeries? I guess better said, is it the same type of surgery and rehab?
Also, Delhomme and Big Ben were old af when it happened . Do we know if either of them had healthy tissue? Brocks was healthy, so that was ideal as possible.
Both were 12+ years in the league with a lot of wear and tear.
https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2023/3/21/23650141/brock-purdy-jeff-dugas-nick-mullens-49ers-ucl-surgery
here is a new article that just came out
Apparently there is a big difference between a repair and reconstruction. I'm just not sure which each qb had yet. Looks like Brock's was a repair.
Per my wife….They can be similar surgeries. The difference is a tendon attaches bone to muscle. Your UCL is a ligament which attaches bone to bone. When you tear a tendon it's usually a much quicker recovery because they're more blood supply for a tendon vs a ligament.
a reconstruction is Tommy John surgery. They basically harvest tendons, drill holes in your bones and thread the tendons into those holes…the tendons then form into sort of a ligament which is called "ligamentization" the new structure and blood vessels grow…the process takes a lot of time because there isn't a ton of blood flow there. That will then become your new ligament holding the bones together.
brock got a internal brace. They basically drilled holes in his bone and connected the bones with a brace, it's a tape covered in collagen material…it holds it in place while your ligament heals. You can't put any stress on it, but it doesn't take as long to heal as TJ because there is not "ligamentization" process.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Big Ben tore three flexor tendons off the bone, is that exactly the same as what happened with Purdy? I'm not being a smart ass - it's a serious question. It's hard to find specific details on these surgeries? I guess better said, is it the same type of surgery and rehab?
Also, Delhomme and Big Ben were old af when it happened . Do we know if either of them had healthy tissue? Brocks was healthy, so that was ideal as possible.
Both were 12 years in the league with a lot of wear and tear.
https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2023/3/21/23650141/brock-purdy-jeff-dugas-nick-mullens-49ers-ucl-surgery
here is a new article that just came out
Apparently there is a big difference between a repair and reconstruction. I'm just not sure which each qb had yet. Looks like Brock's was a repair.
Per my wife….They can be similar surgeries. The difference is a tendon attaches bone to muscle. Your UCL is a ligament which attaches bone to bone. When you tear a tendon it's usually a much quicker recovery because they're more blood supply for a tendon vs a ligament.
a reconstruction is Tommy John surgery. They basically harvest tendons, drill holes in your bones and thread the tendons into those holes…the tendons then form into sort of a ligament which is called "ligamentization" the new structure and blood vessels grow…the process takes a lot of time because there isn't a ton of blood flow there. That will then become your new ligament holding the bones together.
brock got a internal brace. They basically drilled holes in his bone and connected the bones with a brace, it's a tape covered in collagen material…it holds it in place while your ligament heals. You can't put any stress on it, but it doesn't take as long to heal as TJ because there is not "ligamentization" process.
Appreciate the info, helps to have to all broken out like that instead of piecing it together through various forms of information.
Is it safe to assume that there have been large improvements in the technology/surgery since 2018? I read that mullens was the first one to use the internal brace. So I assume it's relatively new?
Does the internal brace stay once it's healed? And if so, does that have a positive impact in regards to him getting reinjured? I feel like with an internal brace, it would provide additional support against impacts, but I really am not sure.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Big Ben tore three flexor tendons off the bone, is that exactly the same as what happened with Purdy? I'm not being a smart ass - it's a serious question. It's hard to find specific details on these surgeries? I guess better said, is it the same type of surgery and rehab?
Also, Delhomme and Big Ben were old af when it happened . Do we know if either of them had healthy tissue? Brocks was healthy, so that was ideal as possible.
Both were 12+ years in the league with a lot of wear and tear.
https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2023/3/21/23650141/brock-purdy-jeff-dugas-nick-mullens-49ers-ucl-surgery
here is a new article that just came out
Apparently there is a big difference between a repair and reconstruction. I'm just not sure which each qb had yet. Looks like Brock's was a repair.
Per my wife….They can be similar surgeries. The difference is a tendon attaches bone to muscle. Your UCL is a ligament which attaches bone to bone. When you tear a tendon it's usually a much quicker recovery because they're more blood supply for a tendon vs a ligament.
a reconstruction is Tommy John surgery. They basically harvest tendons, drill holes in your bones and thread the tendons into those holes…the tendons then form into sort of a ligament which is called "ligamentization" the new structure and blood vessels grow…the process takes a lot of time because there isn't a ton of blood flow there. That will then become your new ligament holding the bones together.
brock got a internal brace. They basically drilled holes in his bone and connected the bones with a brace, it's a tape covered in collagen material…it holds it in place while your ligament heals. You can't put any stress on it, but it doesn't take as long to heal as TJ because there is not "ligamentization" process.
Appreciate the info, helps to have to all broken out like that instead of piecing it together through various forms of information.
Is it safe to assume that there have been large improvements in the technology/surgery since 2018? I read that mullens was the first one to use the internal brace. So I assume it's relatively new?
Does the internal brace stay once it's healed? And if so, does that have a positive impact in regards to him getting reinjured? I feel like with an internal brace, it would provide additional support against impacts, but I really am not sure.
) Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I need some damn Brock Purdy recovery news
Patience, butterfly - it's going to take him the full 6 months to build that elbow back up. He should be ready come the opener.
He's gonna actually need to practice well before that. You're not just tossing him out there otherwise.
He'll be throwing in 3 months. He'll have plenty of practice at OTAs and TC.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I need some damn Brock Purdy recovery news
Patience, butterfly - it's going to take him the full 6 months to build that elbow back up. He should be ready come the opener.
He's gonna actually need to practice well before that. You're not just tossing him out there otherwise.
He'll be throwing in 3 months. He'll have plenty of practice at OTAs and TC.
Dude that's not how this type of recovery works. If he's able to legit practice by 5 months then it will be an amazing rehab and recovery. We will see.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I need some damn Brock Purdy recovery news
Patience, butterfly - it's going to take him the full 6 months to build that elbow back up. He should be ready come the opener.
He's gonna actually need to practice well before that. You're not just tossing him out there otherwise.
He'll be throwing in 3 months. He'll have plenty of practice at OTAs and TC.
Dude that's not how this type of recovery works. If he's able to legit practice by 5 months then it will be an amazing rehab and recovery. We will see.
It won't be an amazing recovery, just the standard one that the doctors forecasted.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I need some damn Brock Purdy recovery news
Patience, butterfly - it's going to take him the full 6 months to build that elbow back up. He should be ready come the opener.
He's gonna actually need to practice well before that. You're not just tossing him out there otherwise.
He'll be throwing in 3 months. He'll have plenty of practice at OTAs and TC.
Dude that's not how this type of recovery works. If he's able to legit practice by 5 months then it will be an amazing rehab and recovery. We will see.
It won't be an amazing recovery, just the standard one that the doctors forecasted.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
When they say he can be throwing in 3 months, I don't think they mean full, unrestricted NFL throws, the type he'll need to make in a game.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
When they say he can be throwing in 3 months, I don't think they mean full, unrestricted NFL throws, the type he'll need to make in a game.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
When they say he can be throwing in 3 months, I don't think they mean full, unrestricted NFL throws, the type he'll need to make in a game.
what I wonder is when will be be cleared to prax? my understanding that's the 6 months or full recovery timeline
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
When they say he can be throwing in 3 months, I don't think they mean full, unrestricted NFL throws, the type he'll need to make in a game.
what I wonder is when will be be cleared to prax? my understanding that's the 6 months or full recovery timeline
I really wish there was some other timeline we could monitor to know how well he's staying on track.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I need some damn Brock Purdy recovery news
Patience, butterfly - it's going to take him the full 6 months to build that elbow back up. He should be ready come the opener.
He's gonna actually need to practice well before that. You're not just tossing him out there otherwise.
He'll be throwing in 3 months. He'll have plenty of practice at OTAs and TC.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
When they say he can be throwing in 3 months, I don't think they mean full, unrestricted NFL throws, the type he'll need to make in a game.
Correct. He will be on a throw count and the distance will be minimal…it's all progression and buildup. It's funny much like people can't stand the idea of lance developing…they can't stand the idea of proper recovery for Brock. Zero patience.
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Big Cock Brock had zero practice with the 1st team and did just fine from his first snap... me not worried
