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Jul 6, 2022 at 6:24 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.

Jul 6, 2022 at 7:55 AM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000
Jul 6, 2022 at 7:57 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.
Jul 6, 2022 at 8:01 AM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.

Yes, if you're a good DB and you generate TO's you get paid.
Jul 6, 2022 at 8:04 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.

Yes, if you're a good DB and you generate TO's you get paid.

Lol okay. Highest payed CB in the NFL has 5 INTs in 4 years. Go back to the O line forum
Jul 6, 2022 at 8:15 AM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.

Yes, if you're a good DB and you generate TO's you get paid.

Lol okay. Highest payed CB in the NFL has 5 INTs in 4 years. Go back to the O line forum

My bad. Good DB's that generate TO"s aren't highly sought after and "payed" more than those who don't.

Go back to school.
Jul 6, 2022 at 8:28 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.

Yes, if you're a good DB and you generate TO's you get paid.

Lol okay. Highest payed CB in the NFL has 5 INTs in 4 years. Go back to the O line forum

My bad. Good DB's that generate TO"s aren't highly sought after and "payed" more than those who don't.

Go back to school.

Folks were making this guy out to be a big splash FA signing. While he is an upgrade at the position, he has like the 14th ranked CB contract in the league.
Jul 6, 2022 at 8:36 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.

Yes, if you're a good DB and you generate TO's you get paid.

Lol okay. Highest payed CB in the NFL has 5 INTs in 4 years. Go back to the O line forum

My bad. Good DB's that generate TO"s aren't highly sought after and "payed" more than those who don't.

Go back to school.

Good players are over payed in free agency regardless of position. You new to this concept or something. There's a reason Marcus Peters wasn't retained by the Chiefs. It's why Trevon Diggs is T considered the best DB. Interceptions are a glorified stat that gets players overrated. JC Jackson is more of an outlier than the rule as he is just a an incredible player that got to benefit from having one of if not the most incredible defensive minds in football.
Jul 6, 2022 at 8:38 AM
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.

Yes, if you're a good DB and you generate TO's you get paid.

Lol okay. Highest payed CB in the NFL has 5 INTs in 4 years. Go back to the O line forum

My bad. Good DB's that generate TO"s aren't highly sought after and "payed" more than those who don't.

Go back to school.

Folks were making this guy out to be a big splash FA signing. While he is an upgrade at the position, he has like the 14th ranked CB contract in the league.

Agreed. I'm happy to have him but he's Emmanuel Moseley 2.0 to me and might be his replacement in case EM plays well and goes to the Jets next year. And that's not a knock on him. Who knows, if our pass rush hits like it should, the TO's will come. This kind of contract is our wheelhouse.
Jul 6, 2022 at 8:40 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.

Yes, if you're a good DB and you generate TO's you get paid.

Lol okay. Highest payed CB in the NFL has 5 INTs in 4 years. Go back to the O line forum

My bad. Good DB's that generate TO"s aren't highly sought after and "payed" more than those who don't.

Go back to school.

Folks were making this guy out to be a big splash FA signing. While he is an upgrade at the position, he has like the 14th ranked CB contract in the league.

Agreed. I'm happy to have him but he's Emmanuel Moseley 2.0 to me and might be his replacement in case EM plays well and goes to the Jets next year. And that's not a knock on him. Who knows, if our pass rush hits like it should, the TO's will come. This kind of contract is our wheelhouse.

Naw the Mike Hughes contract with the Lions was more our wheelhouse let's be real.

Jul 6, 2022 at 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.

Yes, if you're a good DB and you generate TO's you get paid.

Lol okay. Highest payed CB in the NFL has 5 INTs in 4 years. Go back to the O line forum

My bad. Good DB's that generate TO"s aren't highly sought after and "payed" more than those who don't.

Go back to school.

Folks were making this guy out to be a big splash FA signing. While he is an upgrade at the position, he has like the 14th ranked CB contract in the league.

Agreed. I'm happy to have him but he's Emmanuel Moseley 2.0 to me and might be his replacement in case EM plays well and goes to the Jets next year. And that's not a knock on him. Who knows, if our pass rush hits like it should, the TO's will come. This kind of contract is our wheelhouse.

Naw the Mike Hughes contract with the Lions was more our wheelhouse let's be real.

LOL. I had to go look that one up. Good one!
Jul 6, 2022 at 11:11 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.

Yes, if you're a good DB and you generate TO's you get paid.

Lol okay. Highest payed CB in the NFL has 5 INTs in 4 years. Go back to the O line forum

My bad. Good DB's that generate TO"s aren't highly sought after and "payed" more than those who don't.

Go back to school.

Folks were making this guy out to be a big splash FA signing. While he is an upgrade at the position, he has like the 14th ranked CB contract in the league.

Agreed. I'm happy to have him but he's Emmanuel Moseley 2.0 to me and might be his replacement in case EM plays well and goes to the Jets next year. And that's not a knock on him. Who knows, if our pass rush hits like it should, the TO's will come. This kind of contract is our wheelhouse.

Naw the Mike Hughes contract with the Lions was more our wheelhouse let's be real.

LOL. I had to go look that one up. Good one!

Injury prone? Check
cheap 1 year deal? Check
balls out if healthy? Check
go into each season with a bunch of "if he stays healthy" talk? Check

it woulda been perfect
Jul 6, 2022 at 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.

Yes, if you're a good DB and you generate TO's you get paid.

Lol okay. Highest payed CB in the NFL has 5 INTs in 4 years. Go back to the O line forum

My bad. Good DB's that generate TO"s aren't highly sought after and "payed" more than those who don't.

Go back to school.

Folks were making this guy out to be a big splash FA signing. While he is an upgrade at the position, he has like the 14th ranked CB contract in the league.

Agreed. I'm happy to have him but he's Emmanuel Moseley 2.0 to me and might be his replacement in case EM plays well and goes to the Jets next year. And that's not a knock on him. Who knows, if our pass rush hits like it should, the TO's will come. This kind of contract is our wheelhouse.

Naw the Mike Hughes contract with the Lions was more our wheelhouse let's be real.

LOL. I had to go look that one up. Good one!

Injury prone? Check
cheap 1 year deal? Check
balls out if healthy? Check
go into each season with a bunch of "if he stays healthy" talk? Check

it woulda been perfect

Paraag just called. Would you mind forwarding over your resume?
[ Edited by NCommand on Jul 6, 2022 at 11:30 AM ]
Jul 6, 2022 at 1:48 PM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If any of our secondary could generate a TO, they'd all cost x2 as much.


Ha. It's crazy to see the difference in C.Ward's contract and J.C. Jackson esp. in the GTD $.

Jackson:
Contract: 5 yr(s) / $82,500,000
Signing Bonus $25,000,000
Average Salary $16,500,000
Total Guarantees $40,000,000
Guaranteed at Signing $40,000,000

Ward:
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $40,500,000
Signing Bonus $12,025,000
Average Salary$13,500,000
Total Guarantees $26,620,000
Guaranteed at Signing $18,060,000

And you think interceptions is the only reason he got payed twice as much.

Yes, if you're a good DB and you generate TO's you get paid.

Lol okay. Highest payed CB in the NFL has 5 INTs in 4 years. Go back to the O line forum

My bad. Good DB's that generate TO"s aren't highly sought after and "payed" more than those who don't.

Go back to school.

Folks were making this guy out to be a big splash FA signing. While he is an upgrade at the position, he has like the 14th ranked CB contract in the league.

Agreed. I'm happy to have him but he's Emmanuel Moseley 2.0 to me and might be his replacement in case EM plays well and goes to the Jets next year. And that's not a knock on him. Who knows, if our pass rush hits like it should, the TO's will come. This kind of contract is our wheelhouse.

Naw the Mike Hughes contract with the Lions was more our wheelhouse let's be real.

LOL. I had to go look that one up. Good one!

Injury prone? Check
cheap 1 year deal? Check
balls out if healthy? Check
go into each season with a bunch of "if he stays healthy" talk? Check

it woulda been perfect

How are his acls
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