Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Giedi:
That's too harsh. I still think Trey can become a Brock 2.0 in the passing game. What is most disappointing to me is his lack of durability. How can you develop as a QB if you need game reps but are constantly injured and can't get the game reps needed to improve. What durability Trey has shown me so far is very similar to the durability that Jimmy has. We all know why ShanaLynch gave all those draft picks for Trey in the first place.
Limited sample size but TL is markedly worse right now
JG started 64% of the time
TL 21% of the time
even if TL started all 17 games next year, he would be at 58%, would still have work to do
for this I'm just counting games missed as QB1 due to injury
Wow! 
those are really bad stats for Trey. I hope Trey can stay healthy for the next 17 games. It starts with conditioning and goes on from there. If he has 17 healthy games as starter or as backup next year I'm confident he can improve to where he can challenge 2022 rookie version of Brock. Of course Brock, when healthy, is going to get better as time goes on too.
Obviously those are bad stats for Trey, he got hurt 2nd game of the first season he was supposed to start in.
His finger injury is just crazy bad luck - look at Russell Wilson, dude never missed a game in his career and one day his follow through hits a helmet and he's out. That's not durability based injury.
Now we don't know how he hurt his knee vs Arizona so it would be purely speculation on how it got hurt. But that's a durability based issue.
The ankle injury is just pure crap luck no different than Brock's UCL injury or Bosa's ACL 2nd game of his 2nd season. I remember people claimed he was injury prone at that point. He hasn't missed just one start since...and I have a feeling we overlooked Atlanta or he would've been available for that game too.
As John Lynch said, sometimes you hit a bad streak of injuries and then you stay healthy for years. Hopefully that's the case with Trey but having him run like a FB definitely won't help things so hopefully Kyle and Trey both adjust.
Yeah, the 49er injury issue is indeed half fluke and half preventable, in a sense. I mean its the NFL and players will get injured. But some players do adjust - somehow - and aren't injured for a long time. (The John Lynch example)
Going on what has happened versus what might happen, Trey's durability is questionable. How does Trey improve that? I don't think its anywhere as simple as improving his mechanics, for sure. Jalen Hurd never got healthy, and Pettis never got good. I think as a coach you have to factor that into your calculations going forward.
If I was coach and knowing I have two good QBs but they are fragile, I'm investing a ton on QB protections and tweaking my offensive system to protect them as much as possible like - no more QB powers for Trey and a deeper Tight End squad for Brock.
As for Trey, if he can just stay healthy - I think he can be a good QB in this league. He has the physical talent to do it. It's the six inches behind his ears that need to take the next level and he needs game reps for that. Practice is nice, but game reps are priceless for his development. If he doesn't get it and Brock does, I think its game over for Trey. From what little I've seen from Trey, I am very confident he can play in this league and at minimum he can be as effective as Brock.
I realize the thread has moved on but I'm behind.
Hurd had a history of injury from college, made a position change to lessen the beating and then suffered a serious back injury after a very promising training camp/first preseason game. He then suffered an ACL tear in camp running on the sidelines iirc the following season.
The situations aren't similar imo. I also wonder how much of Jalen's inability to stick after those injuries were mental(have to imagine the mental toll it takes on you where you just can't even get to a real game to show what you can do)
Pettis' issues had nothing to do with him staying healthy. He simply wasn't showing the coaches the type of mentality they wanted to see of someone with his talent.
Last I checked there have been 0 questions about Trey's work ethic or leadership abilities. In fact I find it funny how the locker room still loved Jimmy G so much even though he basically ghosted everyone once he was away from the team meanwhile Trey was rolling around on a scooter to get to team meetings and stick with the team after his injury and people act like he's a pariah or something.
It's really funny to me how the narrative on Trey is split. Every time I go back to rewatch his games I'm more encouraged for his future than discouraged and yet plenty of people here or twitter act like the guy is out there just shooting us in the foot every drive and the offense is garbage with him in there. Yet some of those same people had a ton of praise for Jimmy. It's super confusing to me.
At least Brock had just 1 type of tape and it was all wins and even the bad was in short supply and got fixed in crunch time outside of the obvious game. I really can't imagine being a 49ers fan right now and not rooting for the best of both players.
