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CB depth - biggest 2020 risk?

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  • Garce
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We have 3 decent corners with Witherspoon on the cusp of a make or break year not to mention Jimmie Ward can go to CB if need be as well.

Jason Verrett another Wild card.
Originally posted by Garce:
We have 3 decent corners with Witherspoon on the cusp of a make or break year not to mention Jimmie Ward can go to CB if need be as well.

Jason Verrett another Wild card.

Still want a vet for at least TC. Would love to find a Walt Harris.
You cannot address every holeweakness on the team. All you can do is minimize the weakest link. Lynch knows as a former DB that if the DL is weak, no matter if you have pro bowlers at cb, things will breakdown if you don't pressure the QB. We are the same as last year-so not worried.

If you are worried about 2021-we will deal with it then. Drafting one and if they don't resign Sherman, they can use his money on another cb in free agency.
There are some slight concerns with the depth but glaring weakness doesn't really come to mind with the starters. Sherm is still a damn good corner and no he's not moving(seriously put this to rest because we have our starting safeties) to safety. K'waun is coming off the best year of his career. I think Moseley is only going to get better with the valuable experience he gained from last season. I'm not expecting much to change though. Our CB's are still going to feed off that pressure from the front four.
[ Edited by Hopper on Apr 26, 2020 at 1:43 AM ]
I don't hate our depth to be honest. Sherman, Moseley, Witherspoon, Harris, Johnson and Verrett is really like not bad. Throw in Williams and Reed in the slot and we are pretty solid.
Originally posted by Garce:
We have 3 decent corners with Witherspoon on the cusp of a make or break year not to mention Jimmie Ward can go to CB if need be as well.

Jason Verrett another Wild card.

Spoon sucks. He has no confidence and seems unable to get past/forget the previous play.

Jimmy Ward is a safety. Already played him at corner with poor results. He played well at Safety last season.

Verrett is done. He had his chance last season and barely made the field.

It's Sherman, Williams and Moesley........that's it. Should have drafted a couple rookies to compete.

This is our biggest weakness by far.
Sherman, Witherspoon, K'Waun and Tartt are all in UFA contract years. Moseley will be an ERFA, so I see a lot of transition after 2020.

Slot: K'Waun is 28 so he will be looking for his final long-term contract. I can't see the 49ers able to pay him. I see D.J. Reed as the future starter, with Jason Verrett as the backup.
SS: Tartt, like K'Waun probably will find a better contract elsewhere. I'm not sure if Moore can step in as full-time SS and Harris doesn't strike me as an adequate replacement for Tartt.
Outside: Sherman is slowing down but still effective. I suspect Lynch sees a one or two-year extension at a fairly affordable price. Moseley should be easily resigned. Witherspoon should be affordable, but hasn't shown a lot. Tim Harris is a wild card, but like Verrett and Ward, health is an issue.
FS: Looks solid with Ward and Moore.

Stays: Sherman, Moseley
Departs: K'Waun, Tartt, Witherspoon

Lynch will be going into next year's offseason looking for a starter at SS, future starter at outside CB and backup for Reed at the slot. He'll likely draft 3 DBs in the 2021 draft.
[ Edited by hummbabybear on Apr 26, 2020 at 8:56 AM ]
Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Sherman, Witherspoon, K'Waun and Tartt are all in UFA contract years. Moseley will be an ERFA, so I see a lot of transition after 2020.

Slot: K'Waun is 28 so he will be looking for his final long-term contract. I can't see the 49ers able to pay him. I see D.J. Reed as the future starter, with Jason Verrett as the backup.
SS: Tartt, like K'Waun probably will find a better contract elsewhere. I'm not sure if Moore can step in as full-time SS and Harris doesn't strike me as an adequate replacement for Tartt.
Outside: Sherman is slowing down but still effective. I suspect Lynch sees a one or two-year extension at a fairly affordable price. Moseley should be easily resigned. Witherspoon should be affordable, but hasn't shown a lot. Tim Harris is a wild card, but like Verrett and Ward, health is an issue.
FS: Looks solid with Ward and Moore.

Stays: Sherman, Moseley
Departs: K'Waun, Tartt, Witherspoon

Lynch will be going into next year's offseason looking for a starter at SS, future starter at outside CB and backup for Reed at the slot. He'll likely draft 3 DBs in the 2021 draft.

Should have drafted a CB this year. Big problem in my view. Lynch seems to be hanging his hat his front seven.
I would look to sign Witherspoon to an extension right now, add 2-3 years to his deal while his value is low. Witherspoon wants to be here, so might as well ock him in so we have less FA's at CB to worry about after the 2020 season. Sherman+Williams might be leaving in FA, so at least having Mosely+Witherspoon locked in is good, while we probably spend our 1st round pick on a CB.
Tartt is also a FA, and unless he comes back cheap, I think he can be replaced pretty easily. Moore makes a lot of sense, because he's a good tackler, and probably better in space than Tartt is. Williams' I would like back on a short term deal if he does it cheap. Williams has been very good for us since he has been here, and I don't want Reed taking over for him, unless there isn't much of a drop off, and if Williams is wanting too much money.

Originally posted by Bobdawg78:
I would look to sign Witherspoon to an extension right now, add 2-3 years to his deal while his value is low. Witherspoon wants to be here, so might as well ock him in so we have less FA's at CB to worry about after the 2020 season. Sherman+Williams might be leaving in FA, so at least having Mosely+Witherspoon locked in is good, while we probably spend our 1st round pick on a CB.
Tartt is also a FA, and unless he comes back cheap, I think he can be replaced pretty easily. Moore makes a lot of sense, because he's a good tackler, and probably better in space than Tartt is. Williams' I would like back on a short term deal if he does it cheap. Williams has been very good for us since he has been here, and I don't want Reed taking over for him, unless there isn't much of a drop off, and if Williams is wanting too much money.

Spoon should not be extended. He doesnt have the right mind set for the position and his tackling is an embarrassment. If he was a 6th round pick would he still be around?
Yea i agree. To me we don't have much of anything behind our starters. I'm not sure why anybody would be wanting to re sign Witherspoon
We have a lot of young guys. I think they're just hoping they all develop. It's super risky for sure, but our pass rush helped a lot for these corners.
Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Sherman, Witherspoon, K'Waun and Tartt are all in UFA contract years. Moseley will be an ERFA, so I see a lot of transition after 2020.

Slot: K'Waun is 28 so he will be looking for his final long-term contract. I can't see the 49ers able to pay him. I see D.J. Reed as the future starter, with Jason Verrett as the backup.
SS: Tartt, like K'Waun probably will find a better contract elsewhere. I'm not sure if Moore can step in as full-time SS and Harris doesn't strike me as an adequate replacement for Tartt.
Outside: Sherman is slowing down but still effective. I suspect Lynch sees a one or two-year extension at a fairly affordable price. Moseley should be easily resigned. Witherspoon should be affordable, but hasn't shown a lot. Tim Harris is a wild card, but like Verrett and Ward, health is an issue.
FS: Looks solid with Ward and Moore.

Stays: Sherman, Moseley
Departs: K'Waun, Tartt, Witherspoon

Lynch will be going into next year's offseason looking for a starter at SS, future starter at outside CB and backup for Reed at the slot. He'll likely draft 3 DBs in the 2021 draft.

9ers will have 60 mil at their disposal. Can bring back whoever they want to

To answer the thread yes it's the biggest issue. I'd expect 2021 to be the year they really attack it.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Apr 26, 2020 at 5:28 PM ]
We will address it next year. You fill what holes are greatest with the assets you have. People forget what Kyle said? If you draft a player or get a player, are they better than what is on the roster? They felt at the first two picks, the hole was bigger at DL and WR. Are the DB picks worth the value at the those positions? I didn't think so and neither did they. You don't just draft a pick because of what people perceive is a need. They know better than most what is most important.

Plus because of the pandemic, CB is a hard position to learn. Not only that, all this group think of what a good CB is, is useless if he doesn't fit your style of play.
Any drafted in the later rounds, while they may surprise like Sherman, majority will require to be developed. The only time you throw them to the wolves is when you are like in Shanahan's first year.
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