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Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Jennings can play outside, he did it at UT and was successful at it even with bad qb play.

He did it for a bunch games last year too

What it looked like to me was when they put him on the line outside and he was going against press he really struggled.

The Best Young Mind In Football should not be putting him on the outside then... NO?

That was the point. The top 3 WRs available for game 1 is slot JJ, slot Cowing, and Pearsall ... someone has to play "out of position".

Other people have more faith in JJ against press man.

I don't really think Robinson is going to get suspended anytime soon. Would be great if we could buy more time with all of that until Aiyuk comes back.
Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Jennings can play outside, he did it at UT and was successful at it even with bad qb play.

He did it for a bunch games last year too

What it looked like to me was when they put him on the line outside and he was going against press he really struggled.

The Best Young Mind In Football should not be putting him on the outside then... NO?

That was the point. The top 3 WRs available for game 1 is slot JJ, slot Cowing, and Pearsall ... someone has to play "out of position".

Other people have more faith in JJ against press man.

I don't really think Robinson is going to get suspended anytime soon. Would be great if we could buy more time with all of that until Aiyuk comes back.

Maybe, but if you look at NFL DUI history it seems really unlikely they can stretch it out too much longer. For him to make it until Aiyuk is back they are going to have to stretch it out to nearly a year since the DUI, and I haven't found any NFL misdemeanor first DUI arrests that have gone beyond 8 months before the NFL acts and Robinson is right around 8 months now.

If he gets convicted on the DUI (again based on the time passed it seems likely ... if they don't have evidence they would toss a simple misdemeanor usually within 2 months), then NFL rules require 3 games. But the NFL doesn't have to wait for a conviction, they can use their own investigators to get the breath/blood test results and suspend him under the conduct policy.
Originally posted by Scoots:
Maybe, but if you look at NFL DUI history it seems really unlikely they can stretch it out too much longer. For him to make it until Aiyuk is back they are going to have to stretch it out to nearly a year since the DUI, and I haven't found any NFL misdemeanor first DUI arrests that have gone beyond 8 months before the NFL acts and Robinson is right around 8 months now.

If he gets convicted on the DUI (again based on the time passed it seems likely ... if they don't have evidence they would toss a simple misdemeanor usually within 2 months), then NFL rules require 3 games. But the NFL doesn't have to wait for a conviction, they can use their own investigators to get the breath/blood test results and suspend him under the conduct policy.


Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Jennings can play outside, he did it at UT and was successful at it even with bad qb play.

He did it for a bunch games last year too

What it looked like to me was when they put him on the line outside and he was going against press he really struggled.

The Best Young Mind In Football should not be putting him on the outside then... NO?

That was the point. The top 3 WRs available for game 1 is slot JJ, slot Cowing, and Pearsall ... someone has to play "out of position".

Other people have more faith in JJ against press man.

I don't really think Robinson is going to get suspended anytime soon. Would be great if we could buy more time with all of that until Aiyuk comes back.

Maybe, but if you look at NFL DUI history it seems really unlikely they can stretch it out too much longer. For him to make it until Aiyuk is back they are going to have to stretch it out to nearly a year since the DUI, and I haven't found any NFL misdemeanor first DUI arrests that have gone beyond 8 months before the NFL acts and Robinson is right around 8 months now.

If he gets convicted on the DUI (again based on the time passed it seems likely ... if they don't have evidence they would toss a simple misdemeanor usually within 2 months), then NFL rules require 3 games. But the NFL doesn't have to wait for a conviction, they can use their own investigators to get the breath/blood test results and suspend him under the conduct policy.

If this NFL won't discipline Chiefs Rice after causing a multiple car crash looking at a myriad of felonies than they should give Demarcus Robinson a pass too.
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
If this NFL won't discipline Chiefs Rice after causing a multiple car crash looking at a myriad of felonies than they should give Demarcus Robinson a pass too.

The CBA doesn't explicitly detail the punishment for a felony speeding crash. The DUI is literally not something that can be dodged if he did it ... he MUST get at least a 3 game suspension ... if he did it. And they don't need to wait for the courts to decide.
Originally posted by Scoots:
The CBA doesn't explicitly detail the punishment for a felony speeding crash. The DUI is literally not something that can be dodged if he did it ... he MUST get at least a 3 game suspension ... if he did it. And they don't need to wait for the courts to decide.

Rice left a multiple car crash he caused, who's to say he wasn't drunk? All I know is if the NFL doesn't mind letting Rice get away with this haneous act then they should look the other way on Robinson. I know they won't because of precidence you pointed out.
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by Scoots:
The CBA doesn't explicitly detail the punishment for a felony speeding crash. The DUI is literally not something that can be dodged if he did it ... he MUST get at least a 3 game suspension ... if he did it. And they don't need to wait for the courts to decide.

Rice left a multiple car crash he caused, who's to say he wasn't drunk? All I know is if the NFL doesn't mind letting Rice get away with this haneous act then they should look the other way on Robinson. I know they won't because of precidence you pointed out.

The police say he wasn't drunk. And the NFL has yet to rule on Rice pending the criminal case, but it is still hanging over his head.

The big distinction is that the NFL is waiting on the process before they punish Rice, and I have little doubt he will be punished since he admitted he did it, and depending on the criminal case it could be severe (but probably not more than a few games). At the moment he's on the books for 8 criminal charges. Why it's taking so long requires a bunch of speculation ... one of the stranger ones is that his lawyer is also a Senator and has been given basically a blanket continuance on all of his cases while he's working for the state which is kind of amazing. But that, the fact that so many charges and so many people are involved, and probably back room negotiations on a plea deal is why he hasn't been punished yet.

Robinson's DUI triggers specific punishment agreed on in the CBA, and Robinson was allowed to play after the DUI because the Rams said he "took responsibility for his actions" and they were going to leave the punishment to the NFL.

The only reason I can think of that the NFL hasn't already punished him is because once he's suspended he may not be able to participate with the 49ers in some (or all) elements of the process (not allowed to practice, train, be in the facility, contact any personnel of the team, etc) of getting ready for the season, so they are holding back the punishment as a favor to him and the 49ers. The league could allow all that contact after the punishment is assigned but it's easier to just wait to announce the punishment. This is, as I'm lead to understand, not uncommon. I don't think that can possible extend into the regular season unless there is some actual evidence that he wasn't DUI.
Originally posted by Scoots:
The police say he wasn't drunk. And the NFL has yet to rule on Rice pending the criminal case, but it is still hanging over his head.

The big distinction is that the NFL is waiting on the process before they punish Rice, and I have little doubt he will be punished since he admitted he did it, and depending on the criminal case it could be severe (but probably not more than a few games). At the moment he's on the books for 8 criminal charges. Why it's taking so long requires a bunch of speculation ... one of the stranger ones is that his lawyer is also a Senator and has been given basically a blanket continuance on all of his cases while he's working for the state which is kind of amazing. But that, the fact that so many charges and so many people are involved, and probably back room negotiations on a plea deal is why he hasn't been punished yet.

Robinson's DUI triggers specific punishment agreed on in the CBA, and Robinson was allowed to play after the DUI because the Rams said he "took responsibility for his actions" and they were going to leave the punishment to the NFL.

The only reason I can think of that the NFL hasn't already punished him is because once he's suspended he may not be able to participate with the 49ers in some (or all) elements of the process (not allowed to practice, train, be in the facility, contact any personnel of the team, etc) of getting ready for the season, so they are holding back the punishment as a favor to him and the 49ers. The league could allow all that contact after the punishment is assigned but it's easier to just wait to announce the punishment. This is, as I'm lead to understand, not uncommon. I don't think that can possible extend into the regular season unless there is some actual evidence that he wasn't DUI.

You do a great job explaining the CBAs stance on DUIs and Rices situation. I still think this situation stinks and doesn't help the NFL is pulling for the Chiefs narrative most fans have.
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by Scoots:
The police say he wasn't drunk. And the NFL has yet to rule on Rice pending the criminal case, but it is still hanging over his head.

The big distinction is that the NFL is waiting on the process before they punish Rice, and I have little doubt he will be punished since he admitted he did it, and depending on the criminal case it could be severe (but probably not more than a few games). At the moment he's on the books for 8 criminal charges. Why it's taking so long requires a bunch of speculation ... one of the stranger ones is that his lawyer is also a Senator and has been given basically a blanket continuance on all of his cases while he's working for the state which is kind of amazing. But that, the fact that so many charges and so many people are involved, and probably back room negotiations on a plea deal is why he hasn't been punished yet.

Robinson's DUI triggers specific punishment agreed on in the CBA, and Robinson was allowed to play after the DUI because the Rams said he "took responsibility for his actions" and they were going to leave the punishment to the NFL.

The only reason I can think of that the NFL hasn't already punished him is because once he's suspended he may not be able to participate with the 49ers in some (or all) elements of the process (not allowed to practice, train, be in the facility, contact any personnel of the team, etc) of getting ready for the season, so they are holding back the punishment as a favor to him and the 49ers. The league could allow all that contact after the punishment is assigned but it's easier to just wait to announce the punishment. This is, as I'm lead to understand, not uncommon. I don't think that can possible extend into the regular season unless there is some actual evidence that he wasn't DUI.

You do a great job explaining the CBAs stance on DUIs and Rices situation. I still think this situation stinks and doesn't help the NFL is pulling for the Chiefs narrative most fans have.

Oh yeah and that tid-bit about his lawyer being a sitting senator stinks to high heaven as well.
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by Scoots:
The police say he wasn't drunk. And the NFL has yet to rule on Rice pending the criminal case, but it is still hanging over his head.

The big distinction is that the NFL is waiting on the process before they punish Rice, and I have little doubt he will be punished since he admitted he did it, and depending on the criminal case it could be severe (but probably not more than a few games). At the moment he's on the books for 8 criminal charges. Why it's taking so long requires a bunch of speculation ... one of the stranger ones is that his lawyer is also a Senator and has been given basically a blanket continuance on all of his cases while he's working for the state which is kind of amazing. But that, the fact that so many charges and so many people are involved, and probably back room negotiations on a plea deal is why he hasn't been punished yet.

Robinson's DUI triggers specific punishment agreed on in the CBA, and Robinson was allowed to play after the DUI because the Rams said he "took responsibility for his actions" and they were going to leave the punishment to the NFL.

The only reason I can think of that the NFL hasn't already punished him is because once he's suspended he may not be able to participate with the 49ers in some (or all) elements of the process (not allowed to practice, train, be in the facility, contact any personnel of the team, etc) of getting ready for the season, so they are holding back the punishment as a favor to him and the 49ers. The league could allow all that contact after the punishment is assigned but it's easier to just wait to announce the punishment. This is, as I'm lead to understand, not uncommon. I don't think that can possible extend into the regular season unless there is some actual evidence that he wasn't DUI.

You do a great job explaining the CBAs stance on DUIs and Rices situation. I still think this situation stinks and doesn't help the NFL is pulling for the Chiefs narrative most fans have.

I don't know that there is any reason to think the NFL is "for" one team or another. They are just waiting on the judicial process to play out before punishing Rice. The NFL has been criticized in the past for punishing players before the judicial process even gets through the investigation process. 8 charges for Rice ... it's REALLY unlikely he gets no punishment.
Originally posted by Scoots:
I don't know that there is any reason to think the NFL is "for" one team or another. They are just waiting on the judicial process to play out before punishing Rice. The NFL has been criticized in the past for punishing players before the judicial process even gets through the investigation process. 8 charges for Rice ... it's REALLY unlikely he gets no punishment.

I don't see how a company could employ a guy that caused a huge wreck with many injuries and leaves the scene of the crime. A really bad look.
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Originally posted by Scoots:
I don't know that there is any reason to think the NFL is "for" one team or another. They are just waiting on the judicial process to play out before punishing Rice. The NFL has been criticized in the past for punishing players before the judicial process even gets through the investigation process. 8 charges for Rice ... it's REALLY unlikely he gets no punishment.

I don't see how a company could employ a guy that caused a huge wreck with many injuries and leaves the scene of the crime. A really bad look.

If a "bad" crime in someone's past excludes you from the NFL there would be a bunch of roster spots open pretty quick. Deshaun Watson, Tyreek Hill, and Joe Mixon jump to mind.

The latest is KaVontae Turpin of the Cowboys ... he was kicked off TCU for an assault and now he was arrested for pot and a gun. The gun pot charge is because it was Texas, and the gun charge is not about the gun since Texas is a constitutional carry state, but it is against a federal law to carry a gun while using a schedule 1 drug, and it is against Texas law to carry a gun while committing a crime (such as possession of pot).

So ... he had a small amount of pot and a legal gun, but because it's Texas the pot is illegal which makes the gun possession illegal. The league is probably not going to come down too hard on him since they changed the rules on weed since it's legal in so many states, but he's clearly an idiot for getting caught with it in Texas.

There is also Maxwell Hairston about something that happened 4 years ago, but that's a civil case so it's entirely possible the NFL will ignore it.
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Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Jennings can play outside, he did it at UT and was successful at it even with bad qb play.

He did it for a bunch games last year too

What it looked like to me was when they put him on the line outside and he was going against press he really struggled.

The Best Young Mind In Football should not be putting him on the outside then... NO?

That was the point. The top 3 WRs available for game 1 is slot JJ, slot Cowing, and Pearsall ... someone has to play "out of position".

Other people have more faith in JJ against press man.

we've had a SIMILAR situation before.. when JR got injured and came back, Mooch's inability to make a decision on who should start between JR, JJ and TO lead to the down fall of his IQ... to this day, this is the reason why I always believe that TO is a good teammate... he tap Mooch on the shoulder and told him that JR should start at X and that JJ should stay at Z while he (TO) does not even need to start.

then and only then did Mooch figured things out.
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Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Jennings can play outside, he did it at UT and was successful at it even with bad qb play.

He did it for a bunch games last year too

What it looked like to me was when they put him on the line outside and he was going against press he really struggled.

The Best Young Mind In Football should not be putting him on the outside then... NO?

That was the point. The top 3 WRs available for game 1 is slot JJ, slot Cowing, and Pearsall ... someone has to play "out of position".

Other people have more faith in JJ against press man.

I don't really think Robinson is going to get suspended anytime soon. Would be great if we could buy more time with all of that until Aiyuk comes back.

Rick the Slick should start at the X position
J-One as the Z (then motion him around like they used to do w/Art Monk)
Cowing at the SLOT.. (allow him to work those crossing patterns left and right)
Oh no, 49er fans are gonna hate him now

Can't blame him.. although I'd like to say honor the contract you signed.
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