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im so excited to have him for two more years! great player! A++++
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Not even mad about it, I appreciate the love from those who do respect/like myself & my work, & dedication, no issues with anyone, yes I have issues with ppl on social media who like to troll me over my Dogs, since my 11yr old Honey passed in the middle of the night last night, the one I made a GFM for, but idgaf about them, they want to troll or try to get under my skin, oh well I'll block them like I did 9moon.

Again nothing but love, I was wrong, I really thought he'd want $10M a yr, I'm happy he took less, $7.7M a yr is a great deal for us, especially because I expect it to have void years, which I hate, but it will lower the cap hits over the 2yrs, kinda wish they got a longer deal done, like when Dre signed just a 2yr extension and now will be a UFA after 2024, or how Moseley signed a 2yr deal as a RFA when I would have tried to get 3-5yr deal at the same APY he got. But good for Jauan, he's earned it, $10.5M GTD is a nice amount for a guy who is the 3rd WR, but as I said stats don't tell it all, he does everything, good route runner, good pass catcher, playmaker, & great blocker, that's why I was thinking he'd get $10M+ a yr, but now that I realize that his agents are the Rosenhaus' well we have a great relationship with them, the 49ers FO & them always get deals done.

Just seeing this. Sorry to hear about your dog. For the record, my intention was not to drag you or to showboat that you were wrong. All of my replies/questions to you were posted way before he signed an extension.

No worries, what I was trying to say about Jauan, you may have missed it, I posted my reasoning, I thought someone running Kyle's scheme would want a Jauan, who is a good catcher, good route runner, & a great blocker, that's why I was saying $10M+ a yr, I should have specified that $10M base, $15M max, but I admit I was wrong, and I'm glad I was.

Oh and thank you, it's been a tough couple of days here, but life must go on.
[ Edited by AB81Rules on May 30, 2024 at 1:19 PM ]
This extension only makes sense in regards to getting something for Jennings, instead of losing him in free agency. IMO. That or they're preparing for life after either Deebo/aiyuk. (My guess Deebo). So we are spreading out Jennings cap hit over multiple years and most like trade him after this year . All of this talent is great for scheme and potential injuries

why draft a guy in the first and 4th that plays a position where for the next 2-3 years they'll be your 4-5th best option at best? Combined get what 20 targets a year? That isn't why you take a player in the first.

I think it's great to have everyone for this upcoming season, it's an embarrassment of riches at skill positions, but I don't see any way we keep Aiyuk, Deebo, Jennings, CMC, Kittle, Pearsall, cowing etc. you don't invest those kind of resources (a first round) into a guy you plan on being your 4th-5th string WR.

i anticipate next year we will either trade deebo or jennings, possibly both. It's great to have these options, good moves by the front office but no way we keep everyone past this upcoming year. IMO.
[ Edited by tankle104 on May 30, 2024 at 4:27 PM ]
I agree, its now or never for this group.
Originally posted by tankle104:
This extension only makes sense in regards to getting something for Jennings, instead of losing him in free agency. IMO. That or they're preparing for life after either Deebo/aiyuk. (My guess Deebo). So we are spreading out Jennings cap hit over multiple years and most like trade him after this year . All of this talent is great for scheme and potential injuries

why draft a guy in the first and 4th that plays a position where for the next 2-3 years they'll be your 4-5th best option at best? Combined get what 20 targets a year? That isn't why you take a player in the first.

I think it's great to have everyone for this upcoming season, it's an embarrassment of riches at skill positions, but I don't see any way we keep Aiyuk, Deebo, Jennings, CMC, Kittle, Pearsall, cowing etc. you don't invest those kind of resources (a first round) into a guy you plan on being your 4th-5th string WR.

i anticipate next year we will either trade deebo or jennings, possibly both. It's great to have these options, good moves by the front office but no way we keep everyone past this upcoming year. IMO.

I disagree on this, Jennings won't IMO be traded in 2025, the 49ers can afford the 3 WRs thru 2025, then Jauan will likely leave in FA and get more money, they can afford to keep Aiyuk, Deebo, CMC, & Kittle past 2025, there's no issue with their cap in 2026 or beyond, as for Pearsalll & Cowing, they're on rookie deals, they make very little compared to veterans, they can create a ton of cap room next year, an Aiyuk extension saves the team $7.999M, they should carryover in the $20M range into 2025 to help with them being over the cap next year, which by my projections on rosters, they'd be just $7M over before Jauan & Aiyuk extensions, if they can extend Mooney this year, they save $9.148M, while also wiping out his $12.298M dead money hit in 2025, they'll lose FAs, like Mitchell, Hufanga, Banks, possible Dre & DMo.
For the record, I thought JJ would get 10m per as well.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I disagree on this, Jennings won't IMO be traded in 2025, the 49ers can afford the 3 WRs thru 2025, then Jauan will likely leave in FA and get more money, they can afford to keep Aiyuk, Deebo, CMC, & Kittle past 2025, there's no issue with their cap in 2026 or beyond, as for Pearsalll & Cowing, they're on rookie deals, they make very little compared to veterans, they can create a ton of cap room next year, an Aiyuk extension saves the team $7.999M, they should carryover in the $20M range into 2025 to help with them being over the cap next year, which by my projections on rosters, they'd be just $7M over before Jauan & Aiyuk extensions, if they can extend Mooney this year, they save $9.148M, while also wiping out his $12.298M dead money hit in 2025, they'll lose FAs, like Mitchell, Hufanga, Banks, possible Dre & DMo.

I don't think it's really an issue of affording them, it's more of just having a bunch of assets we don't use. You're saying that we used valuable resources (1st and a fourth) on players that we barely intend to use for the next 3-4 years?

this last year we had nearly the least pass attempts in the league. Our guys only got numbers cause we were historically efficient on offense, which sure may be doable again, but it'll be difficult. We have the most expensive WR room, before resigning Aiyuk, the most expensive backfield with juice/CMC, paying Kittle a lot and now we just drafted guy in the first and fourth that we don't plan on really using outside of 15-20 targets a year for the next 3-4 years (assuming we keep the same set up we had last year for the next several years, which is what I believe you're saying).

I think we keep all of them this season and then next season we see some changes. I'm fine with whatever happens but if their plan was to keep Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Kittle, CMC etc then picking a WR in the first was dumb in the sense of a huge waste - whether he was BPA or not on their board. You just don't take guys in the first that you don't plan on using for 3+ years. Lol
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I disagree on this, Jennings won't IMO be traded in 2025, the 49ers can afford the 3 WRs thru 2025, then Jauan will likely leave in FA and get more money, they can afford to keep Aiyuk, Deebo, CMC, & Kittle past 2025, there's no issue with their cap in 2026 or beyond, as for Pearsalll & Cowing, they're on rookie deals, they make very little compared to veterans, they can create a ton of cap room next year, an Aiyuk extension saves the team $7.999M, they should carryover in the $20M range into 2025 to help with them being over the cap next year, which by my projections on rosters, they'd be just $7M over before Jauan & Aiyuk extensions, if they can extend Mooney this year, they save $9.148M, while also wiping out his $12.298M dead money hit in 2025, they'll lose FAs, like Mitchell, Hufanga, Banks, possible Dre & DMo.

I don't think it's really an issue of affording them, it's more of just having a bunch of assets we don't use. You're saying that we used valuable resources (1st and a fourth) on players that we barely intend to use for the next 3-4 years?

this last year we had nearly the least pass attempts in the league. Our guys only got numbers cause we were historically efficient on offense, which sure may be doable again, but it'll be difficult. We have the most expensive WR room, before resigning Aiyuk, the most expensive backfield with juice/CMC, paying Kittle a lot and now we just drafted guy in the first and fourth that we don't plan on really using outside of 15-20 targets a year for the next 3-4 years (assuming we keep the same set up we had last year for the next several years, which is what I believe you're saying).

I think we keep all of them this season and then next season we see some changes. I'm fine with whatever happens but if their plan was to keep Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Kittle, CMC etc then picking a WR in the first was dumb in the sense of a huge waste - whether he was BPA or not on their board. You just don't take guys in the first that you don't plan on using for 3+ years. Lol

I honestly think they'll use Pearsall a good amount this year, he'll get more snaps than we think he's going to get, as for Cowing, I think he has a real shot at being the teams punt returner this year, as for the future I still think both picks were good picks, idk who at 32 would have been better than Pearsall? All the top Tackles were off the board before we picked, I'm not sure there was any IOL worth the 31st pick, I do like the Puni & Kingston picks, I'm hoping Burford gets his s**t together, not sure on EDGE guys, I do wish we would have added a younger EDGE, maybe not in the 1st, but to push Drake & Beal, cause beyond Bosa, Floyd, Griss-Matos, Jackson, & Beal they don't have anyone worth a 53 man spot IMO, guys like Alex Barrett, Austin Bryant, Raymond Johnson III, & Sam Okuayinonu just aren't worth a spot on the 53, I'd like to see another veteran added on a 1yr deal, or some young EDGE gets waived, & we claim him, like how we added Charles Omenihu, & Arden Key in the years we did, both played good for us thanks to the scheme & of course DL coach Kris Kocurek. So then I think maybe a CB? We did take Renardo Green who should start next yr, but besides Womack, & Luter, the rest are on.y signed thru 2024, Mooney, DMo, Yiadom, & Ya-Sin, then guys like Ambry, Lucas, Kemon Hall are either meh or just ST guys. I honestly don't know what other position we could or should have went at 31.
Jauan Jennings' terms are in, 2yr $15.39M deal, he got minimum base salaries for 2024 & 2025, $1.055M & $1.17M, he got a $6.21M signing bonus, prorated over 5yrs, has $625K per game roster bonuses in both years, a $100K workout bonus in 2025, plus he's due a $5.605M option bonus in 2025, total of $10.54M GTD, $8.435M is fully GTD.

Cap numbers are $2,774,941 in 2024, & $4.258M in 2025, but he will have a $8.21M dead money hit in 2026.

Terms come from OverTheCap.com.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I honestly think they'll use Pearsall a good amount this year, he'll get more snaps than we think he's going to get, as for Cowing, I think he has a real shot at being the teams punt returner this year, as for the future I still think both picks were good picks, idk who at 32 would have been better than Pearsall? All the top Tackles were off the board before we picked, I'm not sure there was any IOL worth the 31st pick, I do like the Puni & Kingston picks, I'm hoping Burford gets his s**t together, not sure on EDGE guys, I do wish we would have added a younger EDGE, maybe not in the 1st, but to push Drake & Beal, cause beyond Bosa, Floyd, Griss-Matos, Jackson, & Beal they don't have anyone worth a 53 man spot IMO, guys like Alex Barrett, Austin Bryant, Raymond Johnson III, & Sam Okuayinonu just aren't worth a spot on the 53, I'd like to see another veteran added on a 1yr deal, or some young EDGE gets waived, & we claim him, like how we added Charles Omenihu, & Arden Key in the years we did, both played good for us thanks to the scheme & of course DL coach Kris Kocurek. So then I think maybe a CB? We did take Renardo Green who should start next yr, but besides Womack, & Luter, the rest are on.y signed thru 2024, Mooney, DMo, Yiadom, & Ya-Sin, then guys like Ambry, Lucas, Kemon Hall are either meh or just ST guys. I honestly don't know what other position we could or should have went at 31.

You may be right, time will tell. I'm just talking about how I view it from where we stand today. Having an abundance of talent at the skill positions is never a bad thing - especially cause we have no idea if anyone will get injured.

just to be clear, I love Jennings and think he's a big piece to what we do and what our offense stands for (toughness, relentless, grinder etc). It's awesome to have him back. I also think cowing and Pearsall are super talented and great fits for our system - so I don't think we will be able to hold them back. Itll be interesting if we use cowing/Pearsall in more WR/RB plays like the jet sweep - we tried that a few times with Ray Ray but rarely worked out.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Jauan Jennings' terms are in, 2yr $15.39M deal, he got minimum base salaries for 2024 & 2025, $1.055M & $1.17M, he got a $6.21M signing bonus, prorated over 5yrs, has $625K per game roster bonuses in both years, a $100K workout bonus in 2025, plus he's due a $5.605M option bonus in 2025, total of $10.54M GTD, $8.435M is fully GTD.

Cap numbers are $2,774,941 in 2024, & $4.258M in 2025, but he will have a $8.21M dead money hit in 2026.

Terms come from OverTheCap.com.

Yeah, my first thought when I heard we resigned him was how we can spread out his cap hit over numerous years - instead of taking the entire hit this year on the tender. It was a very smart move by the front office and Jennings got upfront money - WIN/WIN. Thanks for the info

i just wanted to post this when he signed from two days ago
[ Edited by picklejuice on May 31, 2024 at 2:44 PM ]
Originally posted by picklejuice:

i just wanted to post this when he signed from two days ago

Nice, gotta say I have always loved his hair too lol
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Cosmo:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Wow surprised he took less than $10M a yr, I really am, I'm glad, just surprised, cause he's such a good WR, and I don't know if he wants to be the 3rd WR forever.

Don't worry, not everyone saw you puffing your chest with certainty about it in the Aiyuk thread

I have now 🤣🤣.

These boards could use a little more accountability like this

The accountability that AB showed for admitting he was wrong and surprised about this? Or other posters puffing their chest when they finally discover something he incorrectly predicted? Guy has a pretty clean record of predicting how contracts will shake out, but I'm not sure anyone can call it 100% of the time.

Totally agree. Total BS to lump AB in with some of the blowhards on this board. He has done amazing work for YEARS and still will be my go to on all things related to the cap.

Agreed AB knows his s**t better than many of the mainstream media talking heads. Uncalled for.

Now if it were some random idiot a*****e like me...
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
I agree, its now or never for this group.

We have said this for a few years now I think lol
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