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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Nice!


Maybe Pettis is done?

Not an actual promotion, just active for this week off of the PS.

Yeah with James not activated it means Pettis is still working on returns.

I gotcha. But why even bring him up WITH Deebo, Aiyuk, Bourne, Taylor and Pettis all active. Curious move if they are just going to inactive him. Only 5 will be active.

It doesn't mean he dresses though right ? Precautionary in case Taylor or Pettis aren't right game day. I was hoping for James to come back because we've had no return game.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Nice!


Maybe Pettis is done?

Not an actual promotion, just active for this week off of the PS.

Yeah with James not activated it means Pettis is still working on returns.

I gotcha. But why even bring him up WITH Deebo, Aiyuk, Bourne, Taylor and Pettis all active. Curious move if they are just going to inactive him. Only 5 will be active.

I see all 6 active, unless Deebo's not able to go due to the undisclosed illness, whenever you elevate a player from the PS, they're always active, they get paid a prorated portion of their base salary if they were on the 53. It'll come down to if Mostert can go, if so, it's Mostert, Jet and Wilson at RB, and the 6 WRs.

Likely inactives IMO are

Mullens
Hasty (Unless Mostert can't go)
Helm
Compton
Moseley (Concussion)
Johnson (Groin I think)

So they can have 6 WRs active tomorrow.

Ideally, when Blair and Taylor return off PUP, they'll have 8 or 9 DL active each week, while having a WR inactive.

My ideal 2020 roster for the remainder of the season, barring injuries.

QB(3): Garoppolo/Beathard/Mullens
RB(5): Mostert/Coleman/McKinnon/Wilson/Hasty
FB(1): Juice
WR(6): Deebo/Aiyuk/Bourne/Taylor/James/Pettis or White (I'd personally get rid of Taylor, he's done nothing, no faith in him as a PR, just isn't the same player he was in 2017 and 2018)
TE(4): Kittle/Reed/Dwelley/Woerner
OL(8): Richburg/Tomlinson/Brunskill/Williams/McGlinchey/Garland/McKivitz/Skule
DL(9): AA/Ford/Hyder/Blair/Jones/Kinlaw/Givens/Street/Taylor
LB(5): Warner/Kwon/Greenlaw/Al-Shaair/Nzeocha
CB(5): Sherman/Moseley/Williams/Verrett/Witherspoon
S(4): Ward/Tartt/Moore/Harris
ST(3): Gould/Wish/Pepper

IR:

WR Austin
WR Hurd
WR Thompson
DE Bosa
DE Ansah
DT Thomas

PS:

RB Walter
FB Hokit
WR White
WR Jennings
WR Cracraft
TE Harrell or Helm
C Grasu
OG Shepley
OT Conway
DE Barrett
LB Walker
LB Flannigan-Fowles
CB Harris
CB Allen or Webster
FS Mayden
SS Cyprien

Some notes, I'd cut Compton, I doubt he'd get picked up, so he'd be available later on, same for Jordan.

I'd waive Ken Webster, Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles, Daniel Helm, Hroniss Grasu, Dion Jordan, and sign them back to the PS, well at least DFF, Grasu, and Jordan. I'd keep Harrell over Helm, and Undecided between Brian Allen or Ken Webster.

Also, don't expect Coleman to be cut, his entire $4.55M base salary is GTD, so they'd only save the remainder of his per game roster bonus, they could trade him, but he would need to be activated off of IR, that would require cutting a vested veteran that they can bring back, the only ones who would make sense, depending on timing/injuries, are, C Grasu, OG Compton, DE Jordan, CB Taylor, CB Johnson as they all make the league minimum, and none of their deals, except Compton's are GTD, Reed is a vested vet, but he's on IR.
[ Edited by AB81Rules on Oct 10, 2020 at 5:12 PM ]
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I see all 6 active, unless Deebo's not able to go due to the undisclosed illness, whenever you elevate a player from the PS, they're always active, they get paid a prorated portion of their base salary if they were on the 53. It'll come down to if Mostert can go, if so, it's Mostert, Jet and Wilson at RB, and the 6 WRs.

Likely inactives IMO are

Mullens
Hasty (Unless Mostert can't go)
Helm
Compton
Moseley (Concussion)
Johnson (Groin I think)

So they can have 6 WRs active tomorrow.

Ideally, when Blair and Taylor return off PUP, they'll have 8 or 9 DL active each week, while having a WR inactive.

My ideal 2020 roster for the remainder of the season, barring injuries.

QB(3): Garoppolo/Beathard/Mullens
RB(5): Mostert/Coleman/McKinnon/Wilson/Hasty
FB(1): Juice
WR(6): Deebo/Aiyuk/Bourne/Taylor/James/Pettis or White (I'd personally get rid of Taylor, he's done nothing, no faith in him as a PR, just isn't the same player he was in 2017 and 2018)
TE(4): Kittle/Reed/Dwelley/Woerner
OL(8): Richburg/Tomlinson/Brunskill/Williams/McGlinchey/Garland/McKivitz/Skule
DL(9): AA/Ford/Hyder/Blair/Jones/Kinlaw/Givens/Street/Taylor
LB(5): Warner/Kwon/Greenlaw/Al-Shaair/Nzeocha
CB(5): Sherman/Moseley/Williams/Verrett/Witherspoon
S(4): Ward/Tartt/Moore/Harris
ST(3): Gould/Wish/Pepper

Some notes, I'd cut Compton, I doubt he'd get picked up, so he'd be available later on, same for Jordan.

I'd waive Ken Webster, Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles, Daniel Helm, Hroniss Grasu, Dion Jordan, and sign them back to the PS, well at least DFF, Grasu, and Jordan. I'd keep Harrell over Helm, and Undecided between Brian Allen or Ken Webster.

Oh I see. You'd have all 6 active. Got it. Let's keep an eye out for that. Maybe ho 3 and 4 WR sets more this game too?

Good financial moves you noted.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I see all 6 active, unless Deebo's not able to go due to the undisclosed illness, whenever you elevate a player from the PS, they're always active, they get paid a prorated portion of their base salary if they were on the 53. It'll come down to if Mostert can go, if so, it's Mostert, Jet and Wilson at RB, and the 6 WRs.

Likely inactives IMO are

Mullens
Hasty (Unless Mostert can't go)
Helm
Compton
Moseley (Concussion)
Johnson (Groin I think)

So they can have 6 WRs active tomorrow.

Ideally, when Blair and Taylor return off PUP, they'll have 8 or 9 DL active each week, while having a WR inactive.

My ideal 2020 roster for the remainder of the season, barring injuries.

QB(3): Garoppolo/Beathard/Mullens
RB(5): Mostert/Coleman/McKinnon/Wilson/Hasty
FB(1): Juice
WR(6): Deebo/Aiyuk/Bourne/Taylor/James/Pettis or White (I'd personally get rid of Taylor, he's done nothing, no faith in him as a PR, just isn't the same player he was in 2017 and 2018)
TE(4): Kittle/Reed/Dwelley/Woerner
OL(8): Richburg/Tomlinson/Brunskill/Williams/McGlinchey/Garland/McKivitz/Skule
DL(9): AA/Ford/Hyder/Blair/Jones/Kinlaw/Givens/Street/Taylor
LB(5): Warner/Kwon/Greenlaw/Al-Shaair/Nzeocha
CB(5): Sherman/Moseley/Williams/Verrett/Witherspoon
S(4): Ward/Tartt/Moore/Harris
ST(3): Gould/Wish/Pepper

Some notes, I'd cut Compton, I doubt he'd get picked up, so he'd be available later on, same for Jordan.

I'd waive Ken Webster, Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles, Daniel Helm, Hroniss Grasu, Dion Jordan, and sign them back to the PS, well at least DFF, Grasu, and Jordan. I'd keep Harrell over Helm, and Undecided between Brian Allen or Ken Webster.

Oh I see. You'd have all 6 active. Got it. Let's keep an eye out for that. Maybe ho 3 and 4 WR sets more this game too?

Good financial moves you noted.

Updated the post.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Nice!


Maybe Pettis is done?

Not an actual promotion, just active for this week off of the PS.

Yeah with James not activated it means Pettis is still working on returns.

Some day ya'll learn to listen to me. Haha.

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Players that can stay healthy
Originally posted by E-49er:
Players that can stay healthy
needs you mean?
Originally posted by DJamhour:
Thanks for the time you put into this!

Top needs: IOL, Edge, S, WR (Speed over Size)
In my opinion the IOL needs to get upgraded, got absolutely destroyed in the SB. A quick Edge rusher to fill in for Ford cause he will be limited or hurt throughout the year. Safety because I feel Ward is gonna look to get paid and but we dont trust him to stay healthy enough on a longterm deal and we end up not giving him what he likes and give us a speedy Wr that can run more than 2 routes. I understand people are saying corner but its not one our biggest needs to use a top pick or high priced FA for.

First post after I updated this for this year!

Feb 11, 2020 at 11:38 AM

[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 20, 2020 at 3:36 PM ]
Someone at OTC needs to do a contract analysis per games played or snaps if you really want to get micro for the league.

Thinking of the Ansah signing. How little ROI we've received for so many players over the past 5 years but would love to see where the 49ers rank on that list. Maybe we're right in the middle of the pack?

LOL. Oh David, again.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Someone at OTC needs to do a contract analysis per games played or snaps if you really want to get micro for the league.

Thinking of the Ansah signing. How little ROI we've received for so many players over the past 5 years but would love to see where the 49ers rank on that list. Maybe we're right in the middle of the pack?

Would be great to see that for sure
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Someone at OTC needs to do a contract analysis per games played or snaps if you really want to get micro for the league.

Thinking of the Ansah signing. How little ROI we've received for so many players over the past 5 years but would love to see where the 49ers rank on that list. Maybe we're right in the middle of the pack?

Would be great to see that for sure

Yeah, informational only as a GM can't control injuries. But with all our injuries, I'd be very curious to know too.
For all the s**t 2020 was to us, there are some bright spots for sure. This team, IF HEALTHY [and it never will be], still has weapons, depth and foundational pieces.

Here's where we have the questions:

2021 53-man Roster:
Starter; Depth

Offensive Personnel: --- 20
QB: TBD [Jimmy Garoppolo]; Nick Mullens & TBD
RB: Raheem Mostert; JaMycal Hasty, Jerick McKinnon & Jeff Wilson
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Jordan Reed & Ross Dwelley
XWR: Brandon Aiyuk; TBD
SWR: Richie James; TBD
ZWR/F: Deebo Samuel; Jalen Hurd
LT: Trent Williams; Daniel Brunskill
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Colton McKivitz
C: TBD; TBD & Ben Garland
RG: TBD; TBD
RT: Mike McGlinchey; TBD

Defensive Personnel: --- 20
LDE/W9: Arik Armstead/TBD; Ronald Blair
2i: D.J. Jones; Darrion Daniels
3T: Javon Kinlaw; Kevin Givens
RDE/W9: Nick Bosa; Kerry Hyder
SAM: TBD; Azeez Al-Shaair
MIKE: Fred Warner; TBD
WILL: Dre Greenlaw; TBD
RCB: Emmanuel Moseley; TBD
SCB: K'Waun Williams; Jamar Taylor
LCB: Jason Verrett; Tim Harris
FS: Tarvarius Moore; Jimmie Ward
SS: Johnathan Cyprien; Marcell Harris

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Taybor Pepper
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

KOR: JaMycal Hasty & Jerick McKinnon
PR: TBD; Richie James
GR: Azeez Al-Shaair & Tarvarious Moore

Notes: Our same key needs for 2020 remain for 2021 as well in OL, ER & CB. You can throw QB in there too but it's highly unlikely they just cut Garoppolo for a couple years until a rookie is ready. They can ask for a restructure down but that's unlikely too. If Kyle wants a classic drop back WCO QB like Garoppolo, he's got a ton of work to do on the OL esp. regarding pass protection. If he's looking for Steve Young 2.0, he can invest less in the OL.

Several players need to be resigned such as Trent Williams, K'Waun Williams, Jordan Reed, Jason Verrett, Kerry Hyder & Jonathan Cyprien and extensions for Fred Warner & Kyle Juszczyk need to be done. Sherman, Tartt. Richjured, Ford and perhaps, Garoppolo could/should be gone. Ahkello Witherspoon is probably gone too.

AB, help me out here on the plan esp. from a cap perspective.
[ Edited by NCommand on Nov 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM ]
Kyle wants Steve Young 2.0 next.

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