week 1 Tampa Bay film analysis

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Very next play. Same personnel. Both TEs to one side. This is a clever misdirection run. McG, Person, Richburg, and Tomlinson all block for outside zone right - not Staley. Kittle will lead through strong B gap.


RBs counter step. Box defenders flow to their left.


False steppin.


If that CB 31 doesn't make this tackle it's a big gain.


+5


4 runs for 36 yards. It was the best stretch of run plays all day as the team overall struggled. Especially in the 4th. The drive ends with the missed FG.
4th quarter runs: +3, +1, 0, +1, 0 ,+18, 0, +2


Here's the first Kittle TD that got called back. I didn't know if you guys were gonna show it but I saw it on twitter and decided I would mark it up a bit. It's was a cool little wrinkle. I took this screen grab from Fouth and Nine on twitter added the play art myself. It's 22 pers in a tight formation. Juice was On line and Kittle was in the backfield. Nice little RZ wrinkle if you ask me.

Deebo is the Blue Route
Kittle is the red route
Juice is the green route
Second TE is the yellow route (can't make out the number)

Juice gets bumped so doesn't get to finish his route....my guess is he was gonna hook over the center to kinda have a shallow cross concept with Deebo when you add in the second TE it gives you a nice mesh
[ Edited by Niners816 on Sep 11, 2019 at 10:22 PM ]
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Originally posted by Niners816:
Here's the first Kittle TD that got called back. I didn't know if you guys were gonna show it but I saw it on twitter and decided I would mark it up a bit. It's was a cool little wrinkle. I took this screen grab from Fouth and Nine on twitter added the play art myself. It's 22 pers in a tight formation. Juice was On line and Kittle was in the backfield. Nice little RZ wrinkle if you ask me.

Deebo is the Blue Route
Kittle is the red route
Juice is the green route
Second TE is the yellow route (can't make out the number)

Juice gets bumped so doesn't get to finish his route....my guess is he was gonna hook over the center to kinda have a shallow cross concept with Deebo when you add in the second TE it gives you a nice mesh

49ers tried to catch the Bucs napping here, rushing out of the huddle to quick snap.


If Juice pretends to run a corner route I don't think there's a flag. He went lead blocking.
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^^^just looking where juice finishes, I think he was gonna be that hook over the centerline in the shallow cross plays.

I think you're right though....if he was running Gruden favorite Spider Y banana and ran that corner he wouldn't have been flagged.
Originally posted by thl408:
Outside zone does a good job of tiring the DL. I'll try to show a couple plays where they ran inside, directly into a bear front. It was odd. Usually a QB will check out of that call at the line.

I agree, but I think running at them would be more tiring for their DTs because they have to deal with their blockers and have to make a play on the ball carrier. This as opposed to being out of the play on outside zone if the HB gets to the outside. Maybe this is why they didn't check out of it against the bear front?
Originally posted by 9erred:
I listen to NFL network and they stated Ju Ju cannot become the number one wr on the Steelers by default, all the WR's are twos and threes until someone earns the title of number 1 WR, ie Jerry Rice, AJ Green, Julio Jones.

The Niners have NO NUMBER 1 WR's, the spot is UP for grabs. The team HOPES Deebo can claim it, but so far it appears we have lots of 2's and 3s and hoping someon can stand out soon.

It's an overrated term. Get the most talent you can and throw it to the open guy.
Originally posted by thl408:
If there are any plays you guys want to see in particular give me the description.

can we get an assessment of Jimmy G ? I saw a few plays where he had time to throw, was he just not looking or no one was open.
Originally posted by thl408:
New season, new film to watch! Let's go!

I'll start with the defense because they were the stars on Sunday.

DEFENSE
It's official, the 49ers are no longer a 5 man defensive front in base, they are a four man front with their wide 9 and Over fronts. All three backers are off-the-ball. We saw this in the preseason, but nothing is official until the regular season, it's now official.

49ers are also lining up a lot in two deep safety looks. This was discussed in the offseason. They are still a Cover 3 team as I charted many snaps in Cover 3, but they often start the play with two deep safeties and rotate to single high, or stay two deep and play some form of Quarters/Cover6. This is a change from last season as they only occasionally showed two deep safeties. So when comparing 2017/18 to week 1 vs TB, they are showing much more 2 deep safety presnap. They also played much more split coverages and the way they rotate to Cover 3 creates a really muddy picture for the QB - I'll try to show this. This is why the safeties need to be more interchangeable now in terms of skillset. Both safeties must play deep as well as play near the line equally well.

There was a play where the 49ers blew a coverage but the pass rush covered up the mistake. I will show this for sure because the play is a direct example of how an improved pass rush makes the secondary look better. Last couple seasons, the QB would have easily found and exploited the blown coverage, and we know there were blown coverages last season.

I thought Kwon was excellent on run defense but shaky versus the pass, but was never exploited. When he left the game and Nachoez came in, there was a drop off in run defense and on some plays it showed as Kwon was much more aggressive in diagnosing and plugging vs the run.

OFFENSE
It usually starts with the QB and Jimmy was more often than not off the mark. His usually accuracy in the intermediate range was not there. He overthrew Kittle, overthrew Bourne, threw behind Goodwin, it was not a good performance by my personal standard for Jimmy. I have seen and know he can be more accurate. Rust or injury or both? I think it's early enough that these are valid reasons (excuses). As far as decision making it was not as bad as his accuracy, with one particular play in the red zone where I thought Bourne was open enough to warrant a target that could have been a touchdown, I'll show this. TB mixed things up well in terms of coverages, mixing man and zone. The only time TB was able to get pressure seemed to be on blitzes, which is a testament to the pass protection.

The WRs have to be better vs man coverage. Kittle was the only player able to beat man consistently. Deebo really struggled at split end. I don't think he won a single route up the sideline. TB was grabby and that's something 2018 opponents used to help defeat the 49er WRs.

TB came with lots of Bear fronts and the 49ers ran right into it. I was wondering why as I was re-watching. My guess is maybe it was so hot Kyle didn't want to run the OL since OL doesn't substitute? No idea, but after a number of unsuccessful runs, there was a series in the 3Q where the 49ers made an adjustment, went 22 personnel, and ran some Counter plays that resulted in good runs - off tackle is how to beat a Bear front. Tomlinson and Richburg really struggled in run blocking vs Suh/Vea.

The Jimmy pick 6 is a throw he's made before, to a RB lined up wide, versus Cover3. But this time the CB was not backpeddling and Jimmy got burned. I'll show a couple plays from past seasons where he made the throw, compare it to the pick 6, and we'll see why he shouldn't have thrown it.

Overall, it was the new, re-vamped defense that made the big plays. Winston seemed unprepared for the different looks the 49ers showed. If TB studied 2018 film in preparation for Sunday, then they were surprised by what they saw. While still based on Cover3, there are too many different looks for me to say it's the same defense. Then add in the two dynamic edges players and it's a whole new ballgame.
In terms of the offense my biggest takeaway was on the WR's. This is a problem I saw coming. You are spot on, they just could not get separation. But this is a Shanny issue. From standpoint this has been a major criticism that I have had of Shanny. He seems to favor these smaller, faster WR's. Save for Jalen Hurd Shanny has spent a lot of draft and FA capital on filling WR corp with basically slot WR's, guys who will need to schemed open but cannot be relied on to consistently get themselves open. (Aside from reported lack of work ethic I think this is the case with Pettis, again, something I predicted.) I have long been a critic of this approach to the position by Shanny. I think like Baalke the WR position is a blind spot for him Shanny, not because he cannot eye talent, but because he has an outsized favor to speed, which by itself isn't a bad thing. But that often means smallish WR's, players that need a relatively clean release off the LOS to be effective, and Shanny is running into the consequences of that. NFL CB's have progressively gotten bigger, faster, and more physical at the LOS. That has not been by accident. It has been to combat these smaller, faster WR's and not allowing for a clean release of the LOS.

Shanny needs to bring in more players like Hurd and less players like Pettis. I think Deebo will be good, but he'll need some development. But to me it's clear; our WR cannot handle man coverage. Shanny will have to adjust his scheme to that reality. You can scheme all you want, but you still have to beat the man in front of you.
[ Edited by 9ersLiferInChicago on Sep 12, 2019 at 7:24 AM ]
Serious question where are the thoughts after watching the game I'm going through withdrawals



On the negated Kittle TD, I think we were running this mesh sit type play out of 22 and a real tight set. As I said yesterday, I think Juice was trying to be the "sit/hook over the middle" route and got caught up.
Originally posted by thl408:

+8

That's an outstanding block by Laken Tomlinson to cross Vita's face and seal him. I don't get why the board hates this guy. He's not a great player, but he's faaaaaar from a bum.
Originally posted by Heroism:
That's an outstanding block by Laken Tomlinson to cross Vita's face and seal him. I don't get why the board hates this guy. He's not a great player, but he's faaaaaar from a bum.

I think it is a case of all three being adequate(sp?). They are good enough that they are difficult to replace, but not enough to help make their linemate look better.
Originally posted by thl408:
If there are any plays you guys want to see in particular give me the description.

Moore in the almost pick at goal line please
Originally posted by thl408:
If there are any plays you guys want to see in particular give me the description.

Week 1 1994 Jerry Rice record breaking Td....K, Thanks

*Because I'm a nerd....I youtubed it just to see if you can get a glimpse of anything. Jerry was a deep post....and was a Play pass. Cant tell from the views I've seen the concept.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Sep 12, 2019 at 9:11 AM ]
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