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Coaches Film Analysis: 2019 Season

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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by fryet:
Yes, me too. Was also wondering what you thought about the final 49er pass of the game. It went incomplete, but my thinking is if you have a defense playing 9 in the box all game, you try that pass about 10 times in a game until they back off.

That whole 9 and 10 in the box thing was kind of a false narrative. I saw 2 deep safeties a lot in the game.

You're 100% right jonnyD. I guess I didn't notice until I re-watched (all 22).

Were the 8 run blitzing? Or did Clowney and their DL just rape our OL that it felt like there were constant 8 in the box? BTW, if they were getting home with minimal rushers like we usually do with 4, that means more were dropped into coverage against a poor group of receivers anyhow...another key point in the JG defense?

Clowney and their D-line manhandled our O-line most of the game. Seattle rarely blitzed. They were dropping 7 in coverage almost all game
. Nothing exotic, a lot of cover 3 and 2 zone with some man mixed in there. Nearly the entire 3rd, 4th and OT they were in cover 3 on first, cover 2 on 2nd and 3rd playing real soft. It made it real tough for anything. They were only giving up real short stuff. That's what lead to a couple of the ugly throws by JG, he was trying to look off zone defenders to one side, then come back and throw with the other but Seattle's defenders were playing good ball, they were reading our routes well.

Thank you for that. That's pretty significant...I'm starting to think Kyle/Garoppolo really did make the most out of that game given the poor circumstances.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
I'll get it going tomorrow. Had a lot going on this week. My daughter is sick with ear infections and my wife had bloodwork done, she's 13 weeks pregnant.

CONGRATS dude!

Congratulations
Thanks! Yeah, the last appointment was rough cause her dr's office was super busy and they took forever, plus, the last time she had this bloodwork done with our first child, she fainted in the elevator afterward, . So, we had to take a while getting back up and out of the office. Pretty much took up my whole day so that's why I haven't started on any vids yet. I'm cutting the stuff up right now and hopefully will get a chance to record the audio in a little bit, then roll out a bunch of videos this afternoon through this evening.

It looks like the Football Gods still aren't done taking our best out this week.

No rush and huge congrats. What 49er are you naming the newbie after?
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by matguy87:
Originally posted by insanemike27:
If you are refering to the deep sideline pass to Deebo, that reminded me of something Jerry Rice said to Nate Burleson on NFL Network. Jerry said that in that exact situation that a receiver should wait until the last second to put his hands out for the ball as to not give a cue to the db of when the ball is coming. Deebo had his head turned to locate the ball and put his hands out too early in which the db read it the entire time. I am not ripping Deebo for this. He is a rookie and still learning the nuances of the position. Just thought it was a bit ironic how Jerry pointed this out the week before the game and was demonstrated against us in this very game.

Yea, your right. Also the best wrs learn to throttle their speed and use their body to shield the defender until the last moment then burst at the last second to create a little seperation when they go up for the catch... It makes a lot of ok throws look great. Antonio Brown was very very good at this.

I noticed Deboo didn't do this on that throw and he could have since he won off the line. He had separation and was in front of the db. He could have stacked the defender,but again he's only a rookie and I think that's more of veteran thing to do.

How could he put on a burst to go up for the catch when the ball was under thrown. He was reaching back for the ball.

I wish I could see the play again to clarify but from the live broadcast it looked to me like it would have fell right into his bread basket had Deebo not given the db a cue that it was coming. I'm not so sure about the "burst and go up and get it" statement. I'm not sure how that even relates to that play at all.
[ Edited by insanemike27 on Nov 15, 2019 at 12:03 PM ]
Originally posted by insanemike27:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by matguy87:
Originally posted by insanemike27:
If you are refering to the deep sideline pass to Deebo, that reminded me of something Jerry Rice said to Nate Burleson on NFL Network. Jerry said that in that exact situation that a receiver should wait until the last second to put his hands out for the ball as to not give a cue to the db of when the ball is coming. Deebo had his head turned to locate the ball and put his hands out too early in which the db read it the entire time. I am not ripping Deebo for this. He is a rookie and still learning the nuances of the position. Just thought it was a bit ironic how Jerry pointed this out the week before the game and was demonstrated against us in this very game.

Yea, your right. Also the best wrs learn to throttle their speed and use their body to shield the defender until the last moment then burst at the last second to create a little seperation when they go up for the catch... It makes a lot of ok throws look great. Antonio Brown was very very good at this.

I noticed Deboo didn't do this on that throw and he could have since he won off the line. He had separation and was in front of the db. He could have stacked the defender,but again he's only a rookie and I think that's more of veteran thing to do.

How could he put on a burst to go up for the catch when the ball was under thrown. He was reaching back for the ball.

I wish I could see the play again to clarify but from the live broadcast it looked to me like it would have fell right into his bread basket had Deebo not given the db a cue that it was coming. I'm not so sure about the "burst and go up and get it" statement. I'm not sure how that even relates to that play at all.

It's a little talked about thing, good receivers will make their QB's look like gods on those throws. They'll stack the corner and if the ball is underthrown, ease up but use their body, having stacked the corner. Then it looks like the ball was perfectly placed, but a receiver very well may have adjusted his speed a tiny bit.

Still, could've been thrown about a yard farther and it's a huge gain.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
It's a little talked about thing, good receivers will make their QB's look like gods on those throws. They'll stack the corner and if the ball is underthrown, ease up but use their body, having stacked the corner. Then it looks like the ball was perfectly placed, but a receiver very well may have adjusted his speed a tiny bit.

Still, could've been thrown about a yard farther and it's a huge gain.

Yea. Really good receivers adjust their speed to the throw, then accelerate through the catch point to creat a little separation.
Originally posted by matguy87:
Yea, your right. Also the best wrs learn to throttle their speed and use their body to shield the defender until the last moment then burst at the last second to create a little seperation when they go up for the catch... It makes a lot of ok throws look great. Antonio Brown was very very good at this.

I noticed Deboo didn't do this on that throw and he could have since he won off the line. He had separation and was in front of the db. He could have stacked the defender,but again he's only a rookie and I think that's more of veteran thing to do.


I remember in the 2012 pre-season/training camp, Niner DBs saying that Randy Moss had an unbelievable way of deceiving with his body language that the ball was coming his way until the very last possible second.

Part of his greatness.
can you guys get video of all the drops?
Originally posted by jonnydel:
It's a little talked about thing, good receivers will make their QB's look like gods on those throws. They'll stack the corner and if the ball is underthrown, ease up but use their body, having stacked the corner. Then it looks like the ball was perfectly placed, but a receiver very well may have adjusted his speed a tiny bit.

Still, could've been thrown about a yard farther and it's a huge gain.

Two plays in particular jonnyd if you can take a peak at.... both in the 1st Q

1st and 5 at SF 46 (12:38)
3rd and 5 at SF 46 (12:27)



Because I'm too lazy to copy it out again, in the intro of this first video I have a write up similar to what I would normally do for this thread. Cheers!

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Really good assessment!

You covered what my primary question on 3rd and 5 at SF 46 (12:27) which is the Goodwin drop. Really, REALLY appreciate it!!!

Earlier in that series, 1st and 5 at SF 46 (12:38), there's another huge chunk play to Juice. Again not sure what Jimmy is coached to do. Juice beats his guy and is wide open and beyond his nearest defender.

I'm still chalking these up to Jimmy still becoming acquainted to Kyle's offense - understanding where everyone is and what's developing. Matt Ryan had to go through a similar adjustment period.

Just your thoughts here.
[ Edited by NinerGM on Nov 15, 2019 at 5:21 PM ]

Originally posted by NinerGM:
I'm still chalking these up to Jimmy still becoming acquainted to Kyle's offense - understanding where everyone is and what's developing. Matt Ryan had to go through a similar adjustment period.

This is what I'm hoping as well. Also, the main reason the ACL injury in 2018 was so unfortunate
Also, great breakdown as always, JD!
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Taking longer than I'd hoped. part 3 will be out tomorrow morning
Great breakdown for game
Thanks jonnydel for the breakdown.
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