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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by cciowa:
some people think he is a often injured over rated bust who is a daddys boy and are ripping the niners for not doing their homework on him. no, that is not what i think but it is interesting to see what other fans actually think of our team. lets hope all the positive people here are right about him, because if the naysayers are right about him. then lynch will be fired in my opinion because that would be 3 number ones he has thrown away. again. i was just looking around trying to find some stories outside of the niner bubble and it was interesting

it shouldn't be positive people vs negative people...it should be doing your homework on a player and being objective.

Does Bosa have "more" of a risk to get injured? IMO that's kinda a hard thing to answer...it's football and everyone will get hurt. I think if you're coming off a ACL or Achilles (same yr) and you haven't seen how they've played since the injury, that's a red flag and should be looked at more.



I really dont care if people agree or disagree with me but if you're going against the grain you should at least back up your beliefs.

Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:
This was and will be a terrible pick.

For example^^ lol

so much thought behind that lol
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by cciowa:
some people think he is a often injured over rated bust who is a daddys boy and are ripping the niners for not doing their homework on him. no, that is not what i think but it is interesting to see what other fans actually think of our team. lets hope all the positive people here are right about him, because if the naysayers are right about him. then lynch will be fired in my opinion because that would be 3 number ones he has thrown away. again. i was just looking around trying to find some stories outside of the niner bubble and it was interesting

it shouldn't be positive people vs negative people...it should be doing your homework on a player and being objective.

Does Bosa have "more" of a risk to get injured? IMO that's kinda a hard thing to answer...it's football and everyone will get hurt. I think if you're coming off a ACL or Achilles (same yr) and you haven't seen how they've played since the injury, that's a red flag and should be looked at more.



I really dont care if people agree or disagree with me but if you're going against the grain you should at least back up your beliefs.

Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:
This was and will be a terrible pick.

For example^^ lol

so much thought behind that lol

Probably took a whole day of "careful analysis".
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by cciowa:
some people think he is a often injured over rated bust who is a daddys boy and are ripping the niners for not doing their homework on him. no, that is not what i think but it is interesting to see what other fans actually think of our team. lets hope all the positive people here are right about him, because if the naysayers are right about him. then lynch will be fired in my opinion because that would be 3 number ones he has thrown away. again. i was just looking around trying to find some stories outside of the niner bubble and it was interesting

it shouldn't be positive people vs negative people...it should be doing your homework on a player and being objective.

Does Bosa have "more" of a risk to get injured? IMO that's kinda a hard thing to answer...it's football and everyone will get hurt. I think if you're coming off a ACL or Achilles (same yr) and you haven't seen how they've played since the injury, that's a red flag and should be looked at more.

Forums often show the stupidity of humanity. Bosa was the obvious choice even knowing his injury concerns. The entire process is risk.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by walker807:
Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:
This was and will be a terrible pick.

Shoulda kept Cassius Marsh, amirite.

it is his opinion. so what.. people have a right to their opinions here and unless the rules have changed.. i do not the think the poster making such opinion needs to give a long list of why he thinks that.. here is an idea. instead of getting snarky with 499,, just ask him why he thinks that.. maybe he thinks the guy is a injury risk. or maybe he has seen him play and does not like something about his game that he could cover up in college but not in the nfl. and maybe 499 has seen how this board works with some fans.. even if you say something to justify your opinion about a player. you just get ridiculed and lol at. and maybe he thinks . its not worth it. again very understandable

It's fine to have any opinion, but like NY said, don't expect people to take you seriously when you do nothing to explain your reasoning.

And maybe some people on here are rude to people even if they back up their ideas. I don't deny that. But honestly that's not how I do things and other posters I respect on here do things.

For example, I was on record for wanting no part of Josh Allen, a few posters made credible arguments for him and I disagreed but did not criticize them for it because their reasoning was sound.

The people I had issues with were the ones who only showed stats yet when shown a player with better stats, changed their whole arguement because they just flat out wanted Allen. Their logic was inconsistent so I took issue with that specifically.

It's not all about your view. NY and I disagreed on practically everything in the beginning but most of the time he tries to form honest arguements. It's really not that hard.
I say him and Deebo will sign on the first day player's report to training camp
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Forums often show the stupidity of humanity. Bosa was the obvious choice even knowing his injury concerns. The entire process is risk.

Couldn't agree more!
Originally posted by Waterbear:
It's fine to have any opinion, but like NY said, don't expect people to take you seriously when you do nothing to explain your reasoning.

And maybe some people on here are rude to people even if they back up their ideas. I don't deny that. But honestly that's not how I do things and other posters I respect on here do things.

For example, I was on record for wanting no part of Josh Allen, a few posters made credible arguments for him and I disagreed but did not criticize them for it because their reasoning was sound.

The people I had issues with were the ones who only showed stats yet when shown a player with better stats, changed their whole arguement because they just flat out wanted Allen. Their logic was inconsistent so I took issue with that specifically.

It's not all about your view. NY and I disagreed on practically everything in the beginning but most of the time he tries to form honest arguements. It's really not that hard.



And this yr seems like we agree about quite a bit
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
It's fine to have any opinion, but like NY said, don't expect people to take you seriously when you do nothing to explain your reasoning.

And maybe some people on here are rude to people even if they back up their ideas. I don't deny that. But honestly that's not how I do things and other posters I respect on here do things.

For example, I was on record for wanting no part of Josh Allen, a few posters made credible arguments for him and I disagreed but did not criticize them for it because their reasoning was sound.

The people I had issues with were the ones who only showed stats yet when shown a player with better stats, changed their whole arguement because they just flat out wanted Allen. Their logic was inconsistent so I took issue with that specifically.

It's not all about your view. NY and I disagreed on practically everything in the beginning but most of the time he tries to form honest arguements. It's really not that hard.



And this yr seems like we agree about quite a bit

Nah I disagree
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I didn't see it, but the get off is often the most explosive part of the play for a DE. I am guessing that the pre-draft dog-and-pony show took him out of his routine. It usually takes about 72 hours to fully hydrate soft tissue. If he was flying a lot, he was probably dehydrated. Dyhydrated tissue injures more easily and heals more slowly. He was probably missing a lot of workouts because of the travel/visit schedule, and maintenance workouts often cut some mobility work to focus the limited workout time on preventing muscular atrophy. The combination of slight deconditioning, slight loss of elasticity, slight dehydration, and a profound desire to impress in his first week in the NFL could have put him at risk to strain the muscle.

A 1st degree strain isn't a big deal, but the hammies are so big and troublesome that I think they were right to put him on the shelf and let it heal all the way.

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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by KittleSkittle:
Originally posted by Giedi:
ShanaLynch were committed to picking Bosa since the Combine!

Bosa should be getting around 33 million guaranteed. 33 million dollar hamstrings!

The team has been committed to the standout defensive end prospect since the Combine, with Matt Maiocco of NBC Sports Bay Area reporting 49ers executive VP of football operations Paraag Maranthe telling Bosa's agent in Indianapolis he would be the 49ers' pick at No. 2 — provided the Cardinals did not take him first overall.
Like Joey Bosa's situation in 2016, offset language serves as one of this deal's holdups, Maiocco adds. The other snag is how the money will be paid out. Nick Bosa's slot price comes in at $33.55MM, and it will be fully guaranteed.
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/06/49ers-decided-on-nick-bosa-at-combine
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Sounds like we could be in for a long holdout.

Given the family history is this a surprise?

I hate this part of sports.

It's all about television and the money associated with it. I don't see it stopping any time soon, unfortunately.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Forums often show the stupidity of humanity. Bosa was the obvious choice even knowing his injury concerns. The entire process is risk.








They forever blew it but I hope Bosa works out just the same.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Forums often show the stupidity of humanity. Bosa was the obvious choice even knowing his injury concerns. The entire process is risk.








They forever blew it but I hope Bosa works out just the same.

Maybe we can trade Mullens for Q.Willams!
Originally posted by Giedi:
Maybe we can trade Mullens for Q.Willams!

The Jets new GM laughs in Darnold.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by cciowa:
I agree and i like the pick very much and i think he will be what we all think he will be, i suppose since our choices of coaches and players have went off the cliff a bit since jh. the niners are under a bigger microscope.. and probably rightfully so.

Ahhhh did you not remember the overall draft sections when Harbs was here? It wasn't amazing by any means.
yes, i said jenkins sucks and is not worth being drafted number one.. if i recall. very few people called me out and made me prove it. lol. it spoke for itself.. sus did the same for jimmy ward and was persecuted for it to
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by cciowa:
I agree and i like the pick very much and i think he will be what we all think he will be, i suppose since our choices of coaches and players have went off the cliff a bit since jh. the niners are under a bigger microscope.. and probably rightfully so.

Ahhhh did you not remember the overall draft sections when Harbs was here? It wasn't amazing by any means.
my point was. since jh left and it was proven that the team had no plan to bring in something better. then followed that up with chip... i do not blame people for questioning how we do business. untill we actually get to 500, they or we have a right to
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