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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
You need to calm down with your posting style and accusatory tone all over this place.

You seem to have a habit of scurrying the board looking for little nuggets of hyperbole to pounce on and act like you're somehow superior to the other posters on here.

We heard it all through the draft process when you pretty much claimed talking about prospects athletic ability before the combine was useless because it was speculation. You jumped in there when I brought up that Bradley Chubb had more snaps in college than Nick Bosa and called me out on ignoring you when I was busy an unable to check the boards then you own "proof" showed you were wrong and then you conveniently ignored that.

Don't act like you're superior that other posters on here. You're not. If someone makes an overblown statement why do you care? The point NY was trying to make in his OPINION(something we're all entitled to) that if his hamstring issue was a legit problem that he likely wouldn't be working out with his brother during this time off. It doesn't mean the guy can't travel across the country to stay with his brother and it doesn't mean he can't workout other parts of his body while his hamstring heals but I'm sure NY was talking about the standard workouts NFL players do in the offseason...which is very lower body heavy which if a hamstring issue is serious is not happening.

So calm the f down and stop the condescending posts. It's the slowest time of the season so if people want to speculate we have mods who can police the forum. We don't need you coming in and telling people to hang back on posting and wait to find out what's what.

He knew exactly the point I was trying to make...I was basing it off an article that talked about how they will be working out, focusing on making soft-tissue injuries less likely in the future.

Yes it's just an opinion...don't think it's outlandish (like random says) to think if his injury was serious, he's probably gonna be recovering at home and not working out like they stated in the article.

just making something out of nothing. whatever at this point....we will find out more once he's back on the field.

I have no idea why you guys keep interacting with him. I put him on ignore forever ago. This site is supposed to be fun, and people who are only here to irritate aren't much fun. It's more fun to discuss/agree/disagree with people who interact intelligently, respectfully, and who know something about football. I find when the agitators are ignored for long enough, they just go away, or they go full-on Fatal Attraction and have a ban-inducing meltdown.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I have no idea why you guys keep interacting with him. I put him on ignore forever ago. This site is supposed to be fun, and people who are only here to irritate aren't much fun. It's more fun to discuss/agree/disagree with people who interact intelligently, respectfully, and who know something about football. I find when the agitators are ignored for long enough, they just go away, or they go full-on Fatal Attraction and have a ban-inducing meltdown.

I have had him on my ignore list (which I hate to use)...the fact that he can still comment and twist around what I say and I can't read it (and defend myself) is kinda annoying.

I do agree with everything you said though.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I have no idea why you guys keep interacting with him. I put him on ignore forever ago. This site is supposed to be fun, and people who are only here to irritate aren't much fun. It's more fun to discuss/agree/disagree with people who interact intelligently, respectfully, and who know something about football. I find when the agitators are ignored for long enough, they just go away, or they go full-on Fatal Attraction and have a ban-inducing meltdown.

I had him on ignore for a while but decided to clear my ignore list after the draft. I may rethink that.
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Aldon was also hurt that year. He had labrum surgery right after the Superbowl. Not sure why people choose to ignore this.

Anyone thinking Aldon's production was inflated by Justin Smith needs to get their eyes checked or something because that's one of the silliest misconceptions I see 49er fans perpetuate. It's flat out dumb.

Imagine thinking the guy sending DAVID BAHKTIARI flying onto his ass with a beautiful power-to-hump move was only good because of Justin Smith lol. I've got a whole folder of Aldon demolishing some of the best tackles in the NFL, one-on-one, often times from the complete opposite side of the DL as Justin.



Speaking of Aldon, he was a master of Nick Bosa's favorite move: the jab-double swipe





That D was scary as hell in 2012. We whipped our dick out in Foxboro and slapped the Pats with it. That's the game where Kap looked all world.

He sure did. Even with the near Tom Brady comeback, Kap held on. The whole team and D in particular punked the Patriots for about 3 quarters, and unlike other teams that couldn't withstand the Tom Brady comeback, the offense actually scored in the 4th quarter to secure the game. Outside of the playoff wins, that win in Foxboro in December may be the greatest win of the Harbaugh era Niners.

As for this idea that Aldon Smith was All-Pro because of Justin Smith is as silly as people who try to discredit Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, and Steve Young because the QBs had Rice to throw to (or Rice had two HOF QBs throwing to him). If it were that simple, everyone would've done it. Obviously it had to be something special about said player. Why couldn't Parys Haralson put up 12 + sack seasons in the 4 seasons he had where Justin Smith was the starter? Why couldn't Aaron Lynch do the same when Aldon became unreliable? Aldon was special. Period. He was a master at working tackles and could catch Russell Wilson in the open field (2013 NFCCG). It's a shame that once he fell off the wagon so the speak, he couldn't pull himself back together.
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
That D was scary as hell in 2012. We whipped our dick out in Foxboro and slapped the Pats with it. That's the game where Kap looked all world.

And then we looked like dog s**t the next week @SEA

We always looked like s**t in Seattle no matter what all of harbaugh's years with the exception of his first year when they had Tavarius Jackson at qb. When Justin tore his triceps the whole d took a big step backwards

The post you are responding to is why I'm a believer that this Doom Squad is really a thing. It's not about being realistic or critical of the Yorks bad moves or being dissatisfied with losing. I remember people throwing hissy fits during the Harbaugh years at every opportunity. Total malcontents. Can't focus on a good thing, ever, related to this team.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I have no idea why you guys keep interacting with him. I put him on ignore forever ago. This site is supposed to be fun, and people who are only here to irritate aren't much fun. It's more fun to discuss/agree/disagree with people who interact intelligently, respectfully, and who know something about football. I find when the agitators are ignored for long enough, they just go away, or they go full-on Fatal Attraction and have a ban-inducing meltdown.

I had him on ignore for a while but decided to clear my ignore list after the draft. I may rethink that.

NY already admitted he was wrong on the topic so that's done (then here you go behind him and he's ready to rehash a dead topic all of a sudden ) .....and I agree with the mod. If you can't take being corrected just put someone on ignore and only read and reread posts from the same 2 or 3 people you already agree heavily with on everything.

I generally dont reply to posts I agree with. I reply to things I don't agree with or bring a different outlook than what's already been said.

Post #3041 I just a couple pages ago I disagreed heavily with ronniefreakinlott42 on a subject but you dont even notice. You only complain about stuff with NY as if I don't give everyone the same treatment. Is there something you 2 aren't telling us?

Nothing's going to chill out or whatever from that,...much the same way nothing's going to chill out from you taking me off of block only to get back to complaining about me instead of what I think or post about the team.

Stop wasting even more space than you already do, use your block well, and get back on the topic, which is the 49ers team, not posting styles and what you prefer on your message board.

Now back to Bosa. How was his workout today?
[ Edited by random49er on Jun 21, 2019 at 2:54 PM ]
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I have no idea why you guys keep interacting with him. I put him on ignore forever ago. This site is supposed to be fun, and people who are only here to irritate aren't much fun. It's more fun to discuss/agree/disagree with people who interact intelligently, respectfully, and who know something about football. I find when the agitators are ignored for long enough, they just go away, or they go full-on Fatal Attraction and have a ban-inducing meltdown.

Truth man!
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I have no idea why you guys keep interacting with him. I put him on ignore forever ago. This site is supposed to be fun, and people who are only here to irritate aren't much fun. It's more fun to discuss/agree/disagree with people who interact intelligently, respectfully, and who know something about football. I find when the agitators are ignored for long enough, they just go away, or they go full-on Fatal Attraction and have a ban-inducing meltdown.

Originally posted by random49er:
NY already admitted he was wrong on the topic so that's done (then here you go behind him and he's ready to rehash a dead topic all of a sudden ) .....and I agree with the mod. If you can't take being corrected just put someone on ignore and only read and reread posts from the same 2 or 3 people you already agree heavily with on everything.

I generally dont reply to posts I agree with. I reply to things I don't agree with or bring a different outlook than what's already been said.

Post #3041 I just a couple pages ago I disagreed heavily with ronniefreakinlott42 on a subject but you dont even notice. You only complain about stuff with NY as if I don't give everyone the same treatment. Is there something you 2 aren't telling us?

Nothing's going to chill out or whatever from that,...much the same way nothing's going to chill out from you taking me off of block only to get back to complaining about me instead of what I think or post about the team.

Stop wasting even more space than you already do, use your block well, and get back on the topic, which is the 49ers team, not posting styles and what you prefer on your message board.

Now back to Bosa. How was his workout today?

I did not say I was wrong...don't lie.

I said "I will agree we won't know 100% until we see him on the field"
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jun 21, 2019 at 6:11 PM ]
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Rookie Aldon Smith - 14 sacks,

Nick Bosa? - I'm betting he'll get close to Aldon's record - but he won't beat Aldon's rookie sack record.

I'm still of the opinion Aldon Smith was average at best. It was apparent he benefited immensely from cowboy getting double teamed (and holding o linemen regularly).

I'm glad that Cowboy was such a great player for us, but don't blindly assume that a # of other players could have taken Aldon Smith's place and "got there" as often as he did. He wasn't the 1st or the only player to play on the line with Justin.

Aldon's athleticism to finish the job on plays was fully on display over and over. Alot of others close on the QB only to have them get rid of the ball. That's what separates the old Aldon from many others and you just don't get one of those very often. Don't expect the same ceiling out of Bosa,...but don't expect him to be arrested and publicly intoxicated over and over while in his prime either.

I don't see why I can't say he *can* either. Nobody knows - including the coaches - how Bosa is going to handle the NFL and the level of competition yet. That's what pre-season is about. To see what we got. Having said that, again, the difference between a Kerrigan and a Charles Haley or Fred Dean is more mental than physical. Also another factor is how creative Saleh is in getting Bosa in position to do some damage on offenses.

For example, I remember Seifert doing some well timed inside blitzes from the ILB position anticipating the DT (Buckner) being doubled and the LEO (Dean/Haley/Bosa) being chipped by the RB in helping the left tackle. The pass pro rules say that in the case of an inside blitz. the Left OT has to block the ILB and that leaves Bosa/Dean one on one with the RB.

If I was the DC, I'd be moving Bosa to go against the weakest pass protection OLinemen the opposing team has if it's long yardage. For example, if Saleh was going against our OLinemen, I wouldn't hesitate at all in matching up Bosa against any of our Guards or our Center. Matching Bosa against either Staley or McGlinchy would neutralize his effectiveness in my opinion.

Bosa vs Ethan Pocic

I hope Bosa has a five sack game against him!

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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Giedi:
I don't see why I can't say he *can* either. Nobody knows - including the coaches - how Bosa is going to handle the NFL and the level of competition yet. That's what pre-season is about. To see what we got. Having said that, again, the difference between a Kerrigan and a Charles Haley or Fred Dean is more mental than physical. Also another factor is how creative Saleh is in getting Bosa in position to do some damage on offenses.

For example, I remember Seifert doing some well timed inside blitzes from the ILB position anticipating the DT (Buckner) being doubled and the LEO (Dean/Haley/Bosa) being chipped by the RB in helping the left tackle. The pass pro rules say that in the case of an inside blitz. the Left OT has to block the ILB and that leaves Bosa/Dean one on one with the RB.

If I was the DC, I'd be moving Bosa to go against the weakest pass protection OLinemen the opposing team has if it's long yardage. For example, if Saleh was going against our OLinemen, I wouldn't hesitate at all in matching up Bosa against any of our Guards or our Center. Matching Bosa against either Staley or McGlinchy would neutralize his effectiveness in my opinion.
With Bosa, DeFo, and Ford, that's three guys with different traits that Saleh should be able to move around and find a favorable matchup. Bosa with strength, Ford with speed, DeFo with a bit of everything.

That's *if* Saleh is creative enough!
Originally posted by Giedi:
That's *if* Saleh is creative enough!

Those guys are talented enough that Saleh doesn't need to get too cute. They should be able to consistently win their matchups.

If I was Saleh, I'd line up Armstead as a 2i on pass-rush downs and force the center to take him as much as possible. Make him the plugger and give Bosa, Ford and Defo one-on-one with space to work from their wide splits.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jun 21, 2019 at 9:22 PM ]
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Giedi:
That's *if* Saleh is creative enough!

Those guys are talented enough that Saleh doesn't need to get too cute. They should be able to consistently win their matchups.


If I was Saleh, I'd line up Armstead as a 2i on pass-rush downs and force the center to take him as much as possible. Make him the plugger and give Bosa, Ford and Defo one-on-ones from with space to work from their wide splits.

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Originally posted by walker807:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Giedi:
That's *if* Saleh is creative enough!

Those guys are talented enough that Saleh doesn't need to get too cute. They should be able to consistently win their matchups.

If I was Saleh, I'd line up Armstead as a 2i on pass-rush downs and force the center to take him as much as possible. Make him the plugger and give Bosa, Ford and Defo one-on-ones from with space to work from their wide splits.


.. Maybe, just maybe, Saleh needs to grow his hair so that he can look more like Andre Agassi when he was younger... lol...

.. but anyhow, IT'S possible that Saleh had already tried to use Aweak ArmHurts as a 2i on passing downs but it just that he sucks so much that it didn't work.. we seem to have the talent NOW with our front four.. there should not be any more excuses this year for our DC if everyone stays healthy..
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