Bosa should be the pick but if you got the chance to puck up a OBJ or Brown it's foolish to pass.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Mar 6, 2019 at 6:59 AM ]
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Niners99:
No.
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Double down on no. I don't think our HC thinks this way tho. We can improve on what we have (Marquise and injuries) but if JimmyG can't get a pass to:
Goodwin
Kittle
Brieda
Au Jus
Pettis
Jet
TT/other RB
Then we have a problem...which could very well be the lack of protection kyle had for JG last yr. It was abysmal. Start there. If the WR were Jerry Rice, then yes. Since we are talking about two head cases or at least potential head cases, no...even tho they are each very talented.
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Originally posted by Niners99:No.
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Double down on no. I don't think our HC thinks this way tho. We can improve on what we have (Marquise and injuries) but if JimmyG can't get a pass to:
Goodwin
Kittle
Brieda
Au Jus
Pettis
Jet
TT/other RB
Then we have a problem...which could very well be the lack of protection kyle had for JG last yr. It was abysmal. Start there. If the WR were Jerry Rice, then yes. Since we are talking about two head cases or at least potential head cases, no...even tho they are each very talented.
To triple down, what we do need is a different body type. I am a big fan of buying low on Funchess. He has a very high contested catch rate, he has great height and size, he provides that missing piece when we are getting over powered on the outside or need a tough catch in the redzone. We have speed, we have shifty slot guys, we have elite TE play...but we done have the Bolden type who plays strong on the ball and catches is it reliably in contested spaces. Funchess hasn't put up dazzling raw numbers but his contested rate is elite tier and I think at his young age there is room to improve with a better system and more receiver friendly QB.
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Niners99:
No.
/thread
Double down on no. I don't think our HC thinks this way tho. We can improve on what we have (Marquise and injuries) but if JimmyG can't get a pass to:
Goodwin
Kittle
Brieda
Au Jus
Pettis
Jet
TT/other RB
Then we have a problem...which could very well be the lack of protection kyle had for JG last yr. It was abysmal. Start there. If the WR were Jerry Rice, then yes. Since we are talking about two head cases or at least potential head cases, no...even tho they are each very talented.
To triple down, what we do need is a different body type. I am a big fan of buying low on Funchess. He has a very high contested catch rate, he has great height and size, he provides that missing piece when we are getting over powered on the outside or need a tough catch in the redzone. We have speed, we have shifty slot guys, we have elite TE play...but we done have the Bolden type who plays strong on the ball and catches is it reliably in contested spaces. Funchess hasn't put up dazzling raw numbers but his contested rate is elite tier and I think at his young age there is room to improve with a better system and more receiver friendly QB.
Funchess is slow as molasses, definitely not a wr Kyle would take the time to look at. This myth that we need a big body wr is so overblown, if you can run, separate and run good routes Kyle will be interested no matter the size.
Originally posted by tjd808185:Ask yourself if Shanny's o were better with Julio, Andre or without them? There's a very noticeable drop off.
Bosa should be the pick but if you got the chance to puck up a OBJ or Brown it's foolish to pass.
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:no one on our roster can do those things you spoke of in my opinion so we need a upgrade big time. swap out garcon for a difference maker
Funchess is slow as molasses, definitely not a wr Kyle would take the time to look at. This myth that we need a big body wr is so overblown, if you can run, separate and run good routes Kyle will be interested no matter the size.
Originally posted by Garce:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
You need a #1 receiver, regardless of how you go about it.
Whether its paying for it in free agency, or trying to hit on a draft pick and develop him in 3-4 years. You're not going to go anywhere in the playoffs. Nobody is going to respect your passing game, if the opposing CBs are just going to be able to smother you easily.
Using New England as an example is disingenuous and dishonest. You are talking about a coach, who does not believe in paying for players. They're probably going to let Trey Flowers go. But I thought edge rusher was extremely important???? It is, but the caveat is that Flowers might just be a system guy. Belichick can probably just find another 4th rounder and replace him. That's how good his draft & development is.
For every other coaching staff, we can't operate like that. #1 reason being, we do not have a Belichick. We can't just keep letting go of talent, and bringing new blood in to coach them up at a high level.
The reason people want to pay $20M for a receiver is because they want to circumvent the development process. Okay....let's say we draft a receiver this year. How confident are you going to be that a rookie draft pick is going to pick up Shanahan's complicated offensive system and be an impact starter for us in year 1? I would say, I have zero confidence.
For a veteran receiver like an AB or OBJ, I would say they'd be able to pick it up faster. But even Julio struggled in year 1 with the playbook. So even for a veteran, this system is not that friendly to newcomers. But at least with those guys, you could probably confidently say that they'd be ready to go in Year 2. For a rookie draft pick, it might take 3-4 years. In fact, I would say right now that I would not be surprised if Pettis struggles again this year again. He might be ready to go next year.
Fair points.
Without a doubt, our WR corp is extremely lacking. I think Goodwin will bounce back next season but he is not a true #1 and you may be right that Pettis is still a year away but we need to inject talent into that position.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:I wouldn't give up this years 1 for either one.
Edit: because our defense is so bad lol