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Let's see, NC... development poor, experience poor, needs help in choosing talent, needs help with DB coaching, needs help with DL...hmmm....
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Let's see, NC... development poor, experience poor, needs help in choosing talent, needs help with DB coaching, needs help with DL...hmmm....

Yeah, the defense is still a big concern. I'm not really in that, "lets just add a few more good players and we'll be fine" camp. My concerns about fundamentals, scheme-wise, putting players in position to make plays (esp. takeaways), player development, player personnel choices, etc. Saleh seems too overwhelmed to be focused on the nuances of building up a defense from the floor up. And if he's trying to evolve his cover 3 in the process, he's going to have even less bandwidth. Solution? Hire Kocerek and Woods? Let a new DL coach evaluate the front 7 and decide who plays where? Let a new DB coach come in and help Saleh build on his own cover 3 philosophy? Expand the coverages? Call me skeptical but that sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Then again, it could work out beautifully too. Who knows. But I certainly don't feel warm-and-fuzzy going into next year with this approach. Hopefully it works out great.

Offense? Given we haven't drafted any interior OL in 2 years to develop and there isn't jack on the FA front, I've got concerns...again...on the interior. Richburg's knee and hammy sound like something that could become chronic. Tomlinson tore his MCL. Person is 31 and will probably test FA like Fusco last year. All we have for depth is fat-boy, oft-injured Garnett and high-snapper Erik Magnuson. The best RG on the market just resigned with the Colts. And some guy named Jimmy Garoppolo is coming back from an ACL he tore scrambling for his life. I'm very curious to see how they plan to fix this smoking hot mess.

Hopefully everybody heals perfectly and it's not an issue...Richburg gets fully back to form. Person at least resigns and we draft a top RG. I'm just not counting on it...we've been here before.

Kyle seems to have a blind spot for slightly-built WR's (like he used to be). Kyle is crazy smart though...he will adapt and change. He's humble that way. What is he looking for now for a ZWR? Outside of that and the yardage lost on OZ plays, I have zero concerns about offense. Kyle will get the absolute most out of that unit, no matter the talent level.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 4, 2019 at 3:15 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, the defense is still a big concern. I'm not really in that, "lets just add a few more good players and we'll be fine" camp. My concerns about fundamentals, scheme-wise, putting players in position to make plays (esp. takeaways), player development, player personnel choices, etc. Saleh seems too overwhelmed to be focused on the nuances of building up a defense from the floor up. And if he's trying to evolve his cover 3 in the process, he's going to have even less bandwidth. Solution? Hire Kocerek and Woods? Let a new DL coach evaluate the front 7 and decide who plays where? Let a new DB coach come in and help Saleh build on his own cover 3 philosophy? Expand the coverages? Call me skeptical but that sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Then again, it could work out beautifully too. Who knows. But I certainly don't feel warm-and-fuzzy going into next year with this approach. Hopefully it works out great.

Offense? Given we haven't drafted any interior OL in 2 years to develop and there isn't jack on the FA front, I've got concerns...again...on the interior. Richburg's knee and hammy sound like something that could become chronic. Tomlinson tore his MCL. Person is 31 and will probably test FA like Fusco last year. All we have for depth is fat-boy, oft-injured Garnett and high-snapper Erik Magnuson. The best RG on the market just resigned with the Colts. And some guy named Jimmy Garoppolo is coming back from an ACL he tore scrambling for his life. I'm very curious to see how they plan to fix this smoking hot mess.

Hopefully everybody heals perfectly and it's not an issue...Richburg gets fully back to form. Person at least resigns and we draft a top RG. I'm just not counting on it...we've been here before.

Kyle seems to have a blind spot for slightly-built WR's (like he used to be). Kyle is crazy smart though...he will adapt and change. He's humble that way. What is he looking for now for a ZWR? Outside of that and the yardage lost on OZ plays, I have zero concerns about offense. Kyle will get the absolute most out of that unit, no matter the talent level.
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Do you see any wisdom in drafting Q. Williams? It seems that we have sufficient DTs but no ER. Just wondering what you think about this situation? If they get a ZWR in the offseason will that give some relief to the WR community? Then it seems that LB, Oline, and CBs and Safeties will be the next level of concern?
Originally posted by Ninefan56:
NC
Do you see any wisdom in drafting Q. Williams? It seems that we have sufficient DTs but no ER. Just wondering what you think about this situation? If they get a ZWR in the offseason will that give some relief to the WR community? Then it seems that LB, Oline, and CBs and Safeties will be the next level of concern?

I understand the rationale of QW fully. I'm also not hung up on the 1T label. I think the NT and 3T are very similar and most of how those two play are dictated by how the OL chooses to call their protections and who they'll double in the run game. Saleh is completely inflexible with Buckner at 3T. That's his job security. And that's unfortunate. We are usually at the top for QB pressures with current personnel. We're also built for run defense. Therefore the gap between QW and Jones (base) + Thomas/AA (nickel) isn't nearly as big as Cassius Marsh (LEO) and whomever we have rushing from the strong side. QW is also more ideal at 3T but again, Saleh will never move Buckner...otherwise Thomas would be at 3T full time and Buckner would slide over to 1T or BE.

If we get someone like Trey Flowers in FA, go for it but Allen might add even more as an every down SAM/ER on the strong side.

ER is the way to go IMHO.

My top ZWR in Quincy Enunwa is already off the market. That means the next best fit is Tyrell Williams. He'll now command north of $10M and our FO don't play that game. Draft is the way...#2 pick ideally.

Same concept with RG Mark Glowinski off the market. Draft, again. Try to resign Person ASAP before FA or he'll bolt like Fusco.

If we can't get Earl Thomas, we're screwed and will need to hold faith with Colbert, Tartt and Harris.

CB, not much on the FA market that fits our scheme.

Now, LB..,that's the sweet spot in FA. Plenty to choose from at both WILL and SAM/ER. And both will be under $10M which is our bag, baby.

So attack LB and ER hard in FA, draft for OL, WR, CB/S.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 5, 2019 at 7:07 AM ]
^^^as i have posted before, if we want a good draft,we have to score in FA. But that means taking the pieces off the board that are there,,,LBs (both of them) ER(two if worthy), adn then draft your OL, WR, CB/S. If there is an OG, CB, S, OT, in FA that is not a backup but a bona fide starter, then do it And I mean buy with both hands. If they are there, they have to go to us. May mean paying a tad more, but we have to have those that are there that can start for us. Do that and then draft takes care of itself. But SCORE in FA....that is sooooo important. Being chintzy there....estupido. Muy estupido. We HAVE to take any starters that fall into the positions we need.

And no, we won't fill everything out...even in the best of all worlds....that just isn't happening. But we could go a long way to getting healthier talentwise. So John has to approach this FA as if it is his last. Or if he doesn't ...it very well may be. And personally, i would like to see JL stay around. To me that means picking up every single FA starter that fills one of our holes, and going on from there. If he dawdles in FA, his plate will end up bare. John has to go to FA with money in both fists, and be ready to spend it...Quickly. But they better be starters, and they better be at places where we have holes. IOW, no DTs. We got that covered. Only exception i can think of is Q. If after combine he is THE stud of combine, then fine, get him assuming Bosa is gone and bolster up on ERs in FA.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Feb 5, 2019 at 3:16 PM ]
OP updated with Wes Welker
So, with the comments above, LBs look promising, 2nd tier ERs, maybe. WRs look sketchy. CB, S, same. So our plan is basically 2 LBs, a 2nd tier ER, none of the WRs to date, and not much OT, or OGs. Again, in FA these guys have to br starters. We already have a team of backups. We need players that standouf. If not, pass.
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
So, with the comments above, LBs look promising, 2nd tier ERs, maybe. WRs look sketchy. CB, S, same. So our plan is basically 2 LBs, a 2nd tier ER, none of the WRs to date, and not much OT, or OGs. Again, in FA these guys have to br starters. We already have a team of backups. We need players that standouf. If not, pass.

There's an outside chance they go after an ER like Trey Flowers but that doesn't seem like their M.O. Plus he's going to cost $17M APY. Maybe an31 year old Brandon Graham but most likely a Ziggy Ansah. That's their kind.

Should be a couple good SAM/ER's though in FA which could really help get an ER on the strong side at least. Those will be under $10M. Our type too.

Pretty much the draft for LEO, WR, CB/S.

IMHO, of course.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, the defense is still a big concern. I'm not really in that, "lets just add a few more good players and we'll be fine" camp. My concerns about fundamentals, scheme-wise, putting players in position to make plays (esp. takeaways), player development, player personnel choices, etc. Saleh seems too overwhelmed to be focused on the nuances of building up a defense from the floor up. And if he's trying to evolve his cover 3 in the process, he's going to have even less bandwidth. Solution? Hire Kocerek and Woods? Let a new DL coach evaluate the front 7 and decide who plays where? Let a new DB coach come in and help Saleh build on his own cover 3 philosophy? Expand the coverages? Call me skeptical but that sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Then again, it could work out beautifully too. Who knows. But I certainly don't feel warm-and-fuzzy going into next year with this approach. Hopefully it works out great.

Offense? Given we haven't drafted any interior OL in 2 years to develop and there isn't jack on the FA front, I've got concerns...again...on the interior. Richburg's knee and hammy sound like something that could become chronic. Tomlinson tore his MCL. Person is 31 and will probably test FA like Fusco last year. All we have for depth is fat-boy, oft-injured Garnett and high-snapper Erik Magnuson. The best RG on the market just resigned with the Colts. And some guy named Jimmy Garoppolo is coming back from an ACL he tore scrambling for his life. I'm very curious to see how they plan to fix this smoking hot mess.

Hopefully everybody heals perfectly and it's not an issue...Richburg gets fully back to form. Person at least resigns and we draft a top RG. I'm just not counting on it...we've been here before.7

Kyle seems to have a blind spot for slightly-built WR's (like he used to be). Kyle is crazy smart though...he will adapt and change. He's humble that way. What is he looking for now for a ZWR? Outside of that and the yardage lost on OZ plays, I have zero concerns about offense. Kyle will get the absolute most out of that unit, no matter the talent level.

Just rereading the first paragraph again,, one has to wonder, with Joe W coaching DBs and co coordinator play caller, and Kocurek revamping the DL, plius offering ideas on who to take and where, specifically Bosa, Allen, Q, depends on who remains after first pick... why exactly did we keep our LB coach as DC? If the picture of McVay on the sidelines, scheming his O madly, doessn't contrast 180 degrees with kyle making sure saleh makes the right decision as to playcall.....could there be a more stark contrast.? Would it not have been better to get better at DC now instead of seeing how Saleh does with help? ''

Anyone who witnessed BB outcoach McVay both on O and D, knows they saw greatness at work. McVay himself admitted he got outcoached. Perhaps one of the great coaching jobs of all SBs. So if we have any plans on overtaking McVay and later BB we have to go with better , Brighter, more experienced top coaches. Now kyle is at the top of the heap. May even be as good as BB...IDK. But after that, our position coaches as of last yr were not acceptable, Our
DC is a good man, likable,...but not good enough for a team that wants to win it all...meaning the best coaches both on O and D, plus the HC. Kyle has OC under control. DC is a different matter. We need the best at DC...and do not have it...or him..

Are we waiting til next yr to get that best DC in the league? Or does kyle even know what he wants to do. But either never play BB again, or get a new DC and ST coaches, or we won't stand a chance against the best.

Again, i admire Saleh, and like him. Honorable. Smart. Attentive .Hard working. But is he the right stuff for a champions DC? I don't think so. So why not start out at beginning of season to get our DC started on becoming a champion. Or, maybe that is exactly what kyle is doing, both with Kcoiurek and Woods. Perhaps this is an audition by both for the DC job. Both with good resumes, both put out good products, both with plenty of experience... And if we are to ever beat BB, not to mention McVay, we have to bring top flite..the best DCs on board.

Perhaps...perhaps...we just did. Wouldn't that be something. I would hope that Joe W can help in FAing DBs. One, two, whatever he knows and how good are they. Man that would be a shot in the arm. And Kocurek , maybe he can help out with Q vs Bosa vs Allen...or maybe he knows of a couple ...or one ER 2nd tier, that could really help us out. Plus we are leaning on both to give us great coaching at both DB and DL.,

Here's hoping we get the best DC for 2020. And let's hope he comes from one of the guys now on staff. If not, then we better bring in the best DC of all time. Without that, no amount of kyle's Master strategizing on O will make up for a D that has inferior coaching. Hopefully we learn a lot about all the above this yr and next yr finally get fixed for the DC slot.
Pretty sure Braden Mann decided to return to A&M for his final year of eligibility, so if you think we take a punter at the end of 6 you may need to update that to Jake Bailey or Mitch Wishnowsky.

Originally posted by Spike1000:
Pretty sure Braden Mann decided to return to A&M for his final year of eligibility, so if you think we take a punter at the end of 6 you may need to update that to Jake Bailey or Mitch Wishnowsky.

Great looking out spike. Thank you!
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, the defense is still a big concern. I'm not really in that, "lets just add a few more good players and we'll be fine" camp. My concerns about fundamentals, scheme-wise, putting players in position to make plays (esp. takeaways), player development, player personnel choices, etc. Saleh seems too overwhelmed to be focused on the nuances of building up a defense from the floor up. And if he's trying to evolve his cover 3 in the process, he's going to have even less bandwidth. Solution? Hire Kocerek and Woods? Let a new DL coach evaluate the front 7 and decide who plays where? Let a new DB coach come in and help Saleh build on his own cover 3 philosophy? Expand the coverages? Call me skeptical but that sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Then again, it could work out beautifully too. Who knows. But I certainly don't feel warm-and-fuzzy going into next year with this approach. Hopefully it works out great.

Offense? Given we haven't drafted any interior OL in 2 years to develop and there isn't jack on the FA front, I've got concerns...again...on the interior. Richburg's knee and hammy sound like something that could become chronic. Tomlinson tore his MCL. Person is 31 and will probably test FA like Fusco last year. All we have for depth is fat-boy, oft-injured Garnett and high-snapper Erik Magnuson. The best RG on the market just resigned with the Colts. And some guy named Jimmy Garoppolo is coming back from an ACL he tore scrambling for his life. I'm very curious to see how they plan to fix this smoking hot mess.

Hopefully everybody heals perfectly and it's not an issue...Richburg gets fully back to form. Person at least resigns and we draft a top RG. I'm just not counting on it...we've been here before.

Kyle seems to have a blind spot for slightly-built WR's (like he used to be). Kyle is crazy smart though...he will adapt and change. He's humble that way. What is he looking for now for a ZWR? Outside of that and the yardage lost on OZ plays, I have zero concerns about offense. Kyle will get the absolute most out of that unit, no matter the talent level.
Richburg's "knee and hammy"???

You keep repeating this but its his knee and quadricepts.

Double check that, will ya? Thanks.
Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Richburg's "knee and hammy"???

You keep repeating this but its his knee and quadricepts.

Double check that, will ya? Thanks.

LOL. That was the thing that stood out to you?

You made me look it up you sly dog. Thanks for keeping me on my toes.

Richburg underwent offseason knee and quadriceps surgery but is expected back for training camp, Matt Maiocco of NBC Sports Bay Area reports.

Richburg's surgery was extensive and reportedly was to fix an injury he suffered in Week 4, though he missed just one game all due to the issue. Richburg's rehab is expected to run right up to training camp, but if all goes according to schedule he'll be back to action in late July or early August.

Sounds very serious. Maybe he shouldn't have been tough and opted for surgery right away like Trenton Brown did per Dr. Andrews' recommendation.

PS: Trenton Brown is a Superbowl champ.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 7, 2019 at 5:14 PM ]
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