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Originally posted by dj43:
I get what you are saying. However, there comes a time when emotion and intensity are not enough. Players MUST have technique AND discipline. Instead of a bunch of mad dogs, it must be a controlled swarn to contain the QB. Yesterday, and in numerous other games, the DTs are pushed to one side or the other and a hole opens up the middle. Or, the Edges push past the QB, and the QB is allowed to escape outside. All of that is a lack of discipline. That falls on the position coach.

Sacks are important, but not at the expense of losing control over the quarterback. Mahomes and others have exploited that repeatedly. Consistent pressure is more important than sacks. A tight collapsing pocket is very difficult to throw from. A forced throw under pressure that results in a pick is more valauable than a sack.

Shanahan, Sorenson, and Kocurek need to re-think the integration of the front 7 and the secondary. The Wide 9 has become well known around the league, and the smarter coaches (and QBs) have adjusted and know how to take advantage of of the weakness in the system. It is time to make some adjustments. Change up the alignment and scheme. Yesterday Spag was constantly moving people around and changing the scheme, and it confused blocking assignments and Purdy's reads. He is the benchmark. Go study.

Absolutely all this!

After the beating they dish out (it's expected) on Dallas, they need to rest up and strategize during the bye. They could get beat down badly at GB / Buffalo and Lions are coming for revenge. Unlike last year, some of these games (after bye week) that we'd expect to win suddenly don't look like gimmies
Bumping this. Is the wide 9 still the scheme we stick with? And if not, can Kocurek adapt?
Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:
Bumping this. Is the wide 9 still the scheme we stick with? And if not, can Kocurek adapt?
Is that Coach Ks scheme or does he just coaches DL to what the scheme is?
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Dec 4, 2024 at 1:19 PM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Is that Coach Ks scheme or does he just coaches DL to what the scheme is?

I thought he was like THE wide 9 guy. Good question though I am not sure.
Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Is that Coach Ks scheme or does he just coaches DL to what the scheme is?

I thought he was like THE wide 9 guy. Good question though I am not sure.

This is a question for Hero.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Is that Coach Ks scheme or does he just coaches DL to what the scheme is?

That's Kris Kocurek's forte. It's his defensive front philosophy. Kris cut his teeth learning the system under Jim Washburn, who is the godfather of the wide 9.

The 49ers still run the wide 9. There's still a 2i nose and over 3technique in the base front. The 9 techniques have gotten tighter over the years, tho.
[ Edited by Heroism on Dec 4, 2024 at 2:39 PM ]
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Is that Coach Ks scheme or does he just coaches DL to what the scheme is?

That's Kris Kocurek's forte. It's his defensive front philosophy. Kris cut his teeth learning the system under Jim Washburn, who is the godfather of the wide 9.

The 49ers still run the wide 9. There's still a 2i nose and over 3technique in the base front. The 9 techniques have gotten tighter over the years, tho.
So is he really in control of the scheme. I thought position coaches dealt with fundamentals, technique, positioning. I doubt he would be unable to coach the DL if a new DC used less of the W9.. idk
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Dec 4, 2024 at 5:01 PM ]
I think it's still a viable scheme, but you need the horses for it. At this point, the Niners don't.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
So is he really in control of the scheme. I thought position coaches dealt with fundamentals, technique, positioning. I doubt he would be unable to coach the DL if a new DC used less of the W9.. idk

You're right. It is kind of an odd situation. Most fronts are installed primarily by the defensive coordinator, but the 49ers essentially fused the "Seattle cover 3" with the wide 9 when they brought KK in 2019. They were running the wide 9 before Kocurek got here in 2018, but it was only in pass rush situations. They wanted to marry their base alignment with their rush alignment to keep things harmonious, so they brought in Kocurek and made the wide 9 the foundation of the DL.

I don't know if Kocurek would want to coach another philosophy. The dude is as wired and frenetic as the wide 9. This is his bread and butter. Football coaches are sticklers and stubborn. They stick to what they know best and don't like changing too much.
[ Edited by Heroism on Dec 4, 2024 at 6:35 PM ]
Why isnt he our DC again?
Originally posted by 49erKing:
Why isnt he our DC again?

because he has no desire to be a DC.
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