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NFL Scout on how to fix the Niners

Scout's Take: "Can you heal an ACL? The biggest thing is drafting better. There are a lot of misses there from the last regime and this one."

The San Francisco 49ers went all-in this offseason, signing quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo to a massive five year, $137.5 million deal after he ended the 2017 season with a 5-0 record as a starter. They also signed top free-agent running back Jerick McKinnon to a four-year, $30 million deal.

Both are now done for the season with torn ACLs.

Perhaps it's just bad luck, and both will return in 2019 to help the 49ers make the playoff run that was expected this season. That's the hope from not only fans but also those in the front office.

In the meantime, San Francisco will focus on building a team around Garoppolo.

How do you fix poor drafting? The team has to self-scout and learn from mistakes. Drafting Joe Williams or C.J. Beathard too early has robbed the depth chart of potential starters in value rounds. The same goes for the disappointing play of defensive end Solomon Thomas, the No. 3 overall pick in the 2017 draft.

It's easy to tell a team to draft better players, but the execution is far more difficult. General manager John Lynch came to the 49ers from a television booth and is still learning on the job, which is why Adam Peters has a high-ranking job scouting college players.

With what is currently projected to be the No. 1 overall pick in the 2019 draft, the 49ers can select a difference-maker like Nick Bosa (EDGE, Ohio State) who will get onto the field immediately and give the defense a much-needed boost.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2802186-nfl-scouts-fix-the-leagues-worst-teams#slide0

[other teams included too]
Can you heal the Yorks owning the team?

Nope...................
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Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Scout's Take: "Can you heal an ACL? The biggest thing is drafting better. There are a lot of misses there from the last regime and this one."

The San Francisco 49ers went all-in this offseason, signing quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo to a massive five year, $137.5 million deal after he ended the 2017 season with a 5-0 record as a starter. They also signed top free-agent running back Jerick McKinnon to a four-year, $30 million deal.

Both are now done for the season with torn ACLs.

Perhaps it's just bad luck, and both will return in 2019 to help the 49ers make the playoff run that was expected this season. That's the hope from not only fans but also those in the front office.

In the meantime, San Francisco will focus on building a team around Garoppolo.

How do you fix poor drafting? The team has to self-scout and learn from mistakes. Drafting Joe Williams or C.J. Beathard too early has robbed the depth chart of potential starters in value rounds. The same goes for the disappointing play of defensive end Solomon Thomas, the No. 3 overall pick in the 2017 draft.

It's easy to tell a team to draft better players, but the execution is far more difficult. General manager John Lynch came to the 49ers from a television booth and is still learning on the job, which is why Adam Peters has a high-ranking job scouting college players.

With what is currently projected to be the No. 1 overall pick in the 2019 draft, the 49ers can select a difference-maker like Nick Bosa (EDGE, Ohio State) who will get onto the field immediately and give the defense a much-needed boost.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2802186-nfl-scouts-fix-the-leagues-worst-teams#slide0

[other teams included too]

Yep, 1st line sums it up.
The "they're missing on their draft picks" narrative is so lazy.

Yes, Solomon Thomas has been a disappointment. But Saleh has been using him totally wrong, and his sister just died. Stamping him as a bust already is unfair.

Nobody making those claims mentions them hitting on McGlinchey, Kittle, Foster, and Warner. Or that weve gotten value from later round picks like Taylor and Colbert. Or that we found an undrafted top tier RB in Breida.

It hasn't even been 1.5 years yet.

At the end of last year, EVERYONE was fired up about where we were. Garoppolo gets hurt in week 3, and people are not only shocked that were bad, but they now think Lynch and Shanahan need to go?
[ Edited by Niners99 on Oct 25, 2018 at 2:19 PM ]
Originally posted by Niners99:
The "they're missing on their draft picks" narrative is so lazy.

Yes, Solomon Thomas has been a disappointment. But Saleh has been using him totally wrong, and his sister just died. Stamping him as a bust already is unfair.

Nobody making those claims mentions them hitting on McGlinchey, Kittle, Foster, and Warner. Or that weve gotten value from later round picks like Taylor and Colbert. Or that we found an undrafted top tier RB in Breida.

It hasn't even been 1.5 years yet.

At the end of last year, EVERYONE was fired up about where we were. Garoppolo gets hurt in week 3, and people are not only shocked that were bad, but they now think Lynch and Shanahan need to go?
Yeah the calls for Shanahan and Lynch to go are flat out developmentally disabled. They have certainly made mistakes, but nothing which would merit cutting bait after 1.5 years. People calling for their ouster need to give it time and STFU. Patience is a virtue.
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Originally posted by Niners99:
The "they're missing on their draft picks" narrative is so lazy.

Yes, Solomon Thomas has been a disappointment. But Saleh has been using him totally wrong, and his sister just died. Stamping him as a bust already is unfair.

Nobody making those claims mentions them hitting on McGlinchey, Kittle, Foster, and Warner. Or that weve gotten value from later round picks like Taylor and Colbert. Or that we found an undrafted top tier RB in Breida.

It hasn't even been 1.5 years yet.

At the end of last year, EVERYONE was fired up about where we were. Garoppolo gets hurt in week 3, and people are not only shocked that were bad, but they now think Lynch and Shanahan need to go?
Yeah the calls for Shanahan and Lynch to go are flat out developmentally disabled. They have certainly made mistakes, but nothing which would merit cutting bait after 1.5 years. People calling for their ouster need to give it time and STFU. Patience is a virtue.

look around the NFL.. how bout Eli and the Giants.. the Raiders had a roster and they suck.. how bout the Cowboys.. look at the Jags.. there is no stability and i like the way we are playing.. some games were close.. we are making too many mistakes.. i think we are on the right path.. we just need few players like WR, EDGE, S..
Originally posted by Niners99:
Nobody making those claims mentions them hitting on McGlinchey, Kittle, Foster, and Warner. Or that weve gotten value from later round picks like Taylor and Colbert. Or that we found an undrafted top tier RB in Breida.


exactly!
Originally posted by Niners99:
Nobody making those claims mentions them hitting on McGlinchey, Kittle, Foster, and Warner. Or that weve gotten value from later round picks like Taylor and Colbert.


can colbert and taylor even be considered value picks anymore? Taylor looks done. Colbert is the ranked as the worst free safety in the league.
[ Edited by Ensatsu on Oct 25, 2018 at 4:52 PM ]
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Nobody making those claims mentions them hitting on McGlinchey, Kittle, Foster, and Warner. Or that weve gotten value from later round picks like Taylor and Colbert.


can colbert and taylor even be considered value picks anymore? Taylor looks done. Colbert is the ranked as the worst free safety in the league.

That thinking is part of the problem, they have already shown they can play, even if they regress and end up as solid depth that's still a hit.

We're talking about Day 3 players, how many are better than them?
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Scout's Take: "Can you heal an ACL? The biggest thing is drafting better. There are a lot of misses there from the last regime and this one."

The San Francisco 49ers went all-in this offseason, signing quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo to a massive five year, $137.5 million deal after he ended the 2017 season with a 5-0 record as a starter. They also signed top free-agent running back Jerick McKinnon to a four-year, $30 million deal.

Both are now done for the season with torn ACLs.

Perhaps it's just bad luck, and both will return in 2019 to help the 49ers make the playoff run that was expected this season. That's the hope from not only fans but also those in the front office.

In the meantime, San Francisco will focus on building a team around Garoppolo.

How do you fix poor drafting? The team has to self-scout and learn from mistakes. Drafting Joe Williams or C.J. Beathard too early has robbed the depth chart of potential starters in value rounds. The same goes for the disappointing play of defensive end Solomon Thomas, the No. 3 overall pick in the 2017 draft.

It's easy to tell a team to draft better players, but the execution is far more difficult. General manager John Lynch came to the 49ers from a television booth and is still learning on the job, which is why Adam Peters has a high-ranking job scouting college players.

With what is currently projected to be the No. 1 overall pick in the 2019 draft, the 49ers can select a difference-maker like Nick Bosa (EDGE, Ohio State) who will get onto the field immediately and give the defense a much-needed boost.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2802186-nfl-scouts-fix-the-leagues-worst-teams#slide0

[other teams included too]
Never heard of adam peters................. (see what i did there) Came from a tv booth??
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Don't really agree with the premise. We've done okay finding value in the draft not spectacular. Thomas's story is not done yet. I think we have to look to our coaching staff to improve their game planning on defense and learn how to coach up low round picks to deal with one on one physical confrontations against NFL quality athletes. So I think defensive coaching adjustments and player grooming are what will put us on the higher track. Are drafting has been neutral to slightly positive.
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Nobody making those claims mentions them hitting on McGlinchey, Kittle, Foster, and Warner. Or that weve gotten value from later round picks like Taylor and Colbert.


can colbert and taylor even be considered value picks anymore? Taylor looks done. Colbert is the ranked as the worst free safety in the league.

Colbert deserves a break. He's had a bad hip since the 2nd game and was playing hurt all season...he'll be back. Taylor, on the other hand, may be injury prone.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Nobody making those claims mentions them hitting on McGlinchey, Kittle, Foster, and Warner. Or that weve gotten value from later round picks like Taylor and Colbert.


can colbert and taylor even be considered value picks anymore? Taylor looks done. Colbert is the ranked as the worst free safety in the league.
TV booth guy struggling to draft? No surprise there.
Originally posted by Niners99:
The "they're missing on their draft picks" narrative is so lazy.

Yes, Solomon Thomas has been a disappointment. But Saleh has been using him totally wrong, and his sister just died. Stamping him as a bust already is unfair.

Nobody making those claims mentions them hitting on McGlinchey, Kittle, Foster, and Warner. Or that weve gotten value from later round picks like Taylor and Colbert. Or that we found an undrafted top tier RB in Breida.

It hasn't even been 1.5 years yet.

At the end of last year, EVERYONE was fired up about where we were. Garoppolo gets hurt in week 3, and people are not only shocked that were bad, but they now think Lynch and Shanahan need to go?

Seriously I think we have drafted better than most teams the last two years. If Jimmy is healthy we are 4-3 right now and with Jimmy we could possibly win every single game left, assuming the Rams rest their starters week 17. At worst maybe we drop two or three more with Jimmy so I'm assuming with the easy schedule 10-6. Jimmy covers up a lot of the deficiencies on defense like he did last year and the offensive line. The narrative would be much different wouldn't it just because of one substantial injury. I keep mentioning Green Bay as an example when Rodgers went down. Or even look at Tony Romo when he got injured they picked I believe fourth and got Elliot. We are in that situation nothing more. Our team needs depth and better players at edge and secondary. However, with Jimmy we still make the playoffs as a wildcard I believe
Originally posted by Niners99:
The "they're missing on their draft picks" narrative is so lazy.

Yes, Solomon Thomas has been a disappointment. But Saleh has been using him totally wrong, and his sister just died. Stamping him as a bust already is unfair.

Nobody making those claims mentions them hitting on McGlinchey, Kittle, Foster, and Warner. Or that weve gotten value from later round picks like Taylor and Colbert. Or that we found an undrafted top tier RB in Breida.

It hasn't even been 1.5 years yet.

At the end of last year, EVERYONE was fired up about where we were. Garoppolo gets hurt in week 3, and people are not only shocked that were bad, but they now think Lynch and Shanahan need to go?

Garoppolo was 1 - 2 this year. A losing record. Not exactly setting the world on fire. When the NFL had a chance to study the film in the off season they figured him out. He was not doing anything great this year. Mostly losing games. He was a far cry from last year. That's for sure. This is not that great of a team. Including him.
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