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2019 Defensive Progress & Robert Saleh Hot-seat Tracker
Oct 24, 2018 at 7:17 AM
- Cjez
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idk how many times I've seen one of our DL dropping back into coverage. This saleh dude is a fkn moron.
Oct 24, 2018 at 7:19 AM
- OnTheClock
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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
LOL. Oscar is having too much fun with Saleh lately.
Don't worry y'all. Mabin and Solly in coverage to the rescue.
— Oscar Aparicio (@BetterRivals) October 24, 2018
The real culprit here is Mabin who continued his poor play into week 7.
4 targets, 4 receptions allowed for 57 yards. pic.twitter.com/R6pctOVLLx
Solomon acting as spy wasn't an issue there. Took away an underneath lane where someone (can't see the number) got beat off the ball immediately and was going to be wide open for longer if Thomas wasn't there. But the deep route.. Yeah. Roasted again.
Oct 24, 2018 at 7:24 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:Solomon acting as spy wasn't an issue there. Took away an underneath lane where someone (can't see the number) got beat off the ball immediately and was going to be wide open for longer if Thomas wasn't there. But the deep route.. Yeah. Roasted again.
Yeah, I think that was more of a dig on Mabin again, starting and proving he's very poor. Biting on the run and then in chase mode instantly.
Oct 24, 2018 at 11:14 AM
- NCommand
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This from a former NFL DB...one who doesn't have CTE that thinks Solomon Thomas should be an OLB in a 3-4.
If it was one or 2 players.. I'd say it's that players.. but it seems to be damn near the entire defense that's confused on several occasions throughout games.. there's something to that..
— CrockTIME (@eric_crocker) October 24, 2018
[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 24, 2018 at 11:15 AM ]
Oct 24, 2018 at 11:29 AM
- 951NINER
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Originally posted by NCommand:
This from a former NFL DB...one who doesn't have CTE that thinks Solomon Thomas should be an OLB in a 3-4.
If it was one or 2 players.. I'd say it's that players.. but it seems to be damn near the entire defense that's confused on several occasions throughout games.. there's something to that..
— CrockTIME (@eric_crocker) October 24, 2018
I don't understand how these players can't grasp this scheme? It's not a complicated scheme as Sherm has mentioned. You have Sherman, Malcolm Smith and Saleh who are all veterans of the scheme showing the rest of the defense how to play it. Yet, so many players just don't seem to know their assignments and how to play zone.
Oct 24, 2018 at 12:25 PM
- philosoraptor
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Originally posted by 951NINER:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This from a former NFL DB...one who doesn't have CTE that thinks Solomon Thomas should be an OLB in a 3-4.
If it was one or 2 players.. I'd say it's that players.. but it seems to be damn near the entire defense that's confused on several occasions throughout games.. there's something to that..
— CrockTIME (@eric_crocker) October 24, 2018
I don't understand how these players can't grasp this scheme? It's not a complicated scheme as Sherm has mentioned. You have Sherman, Malcolm Smith and Saleh who are all veterans of the scheme showing the rest of the defense how to play it. Yet, so many players just don't seem to know their assignments and how to play zone.
Even more confusing is these mistakes weren't happening nearly as frequently last year.
Oct 24, 2018 at 12:27 PM
- 951NINER
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Originally posted by philosoraptor:
Originally posted by 951NINER:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This from a former NFL DB...one who doesn't have CTE that thinks Solomon Thomas should be an OLB in a 3-4.
If it was one or 2 players.. I'd say it's that players.. but it seems to be damn near the entire defense that's confused on several occasions throughout games.. there's something to that..
— CrockTIME (@eric_crocker) October 24, 2018
I don't understand how these players can't grasp this scheme? It's not a complicated scheme as Sherm has mentioned. You have Sherman, Malcolm Smith and Saleh who are all veterans of the scheme showing the rest of the defense how to play it. Yet, so many players just don't seem to know their assignments and how to play zone.
Even more confusing is these mistakes weren't happening nearly as frequently last year.
I forgot to mention that and it's a really good point.
Oct 24, 2018 at 12:37 PM
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You want 4-3??
Lovie Smith
Jack Del Rio
Leslie Frazier
Jeff Ulbrich
Lovie Smith
Jack Del Rio
Leslie Frazier
Jeff Ulbrich
Oct 24, 2018 at 12:45 PM
- OnTheClock
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I mean.. Even the fans seem to understand the concepts better than the players so how are the players continuing to go to the wrong spots every game?
Oct 24, 2018 at 1:25 PM
- 951NINER
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I mean.. Even the fans seem to understand the concepts better than the players so how are the players continuing to go to the wrong spots every game?
I think Sherman spoke about this a couple of weeks ago. He said for you to be successful in your assignment you have to study offenses and look for indicators. Could be pre-snap looks or formations. Subtle things that will tip what type of play they're about to run. You would think coaches show this to them on film.
Once the ball is snapped our players don't seem to know where to be as you say.
Oct 24, 2018 at 1:45 PM
- OnTheClock
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Originally posted by 951NINER:Originally posted by OnTheClock:I mean.. Even the fans seem to understand the concepts better than the players so how are the players continuing to go to the wrong spots every game?
I think Sherman spoke about this a couple of weeks ago. He said for you to be successful in your assignment you have to study offenses and look for indicators. Could be pre-snap looks or formations. Subtle things that will tip what type of play they're about to run. You would think coaches show this to them on film.
Once the ball is snapped our players don't seem to know where to be as you say.
Apparently no one watches film and just goes home. Working 9-5 with no self motivation to do the preparation necessary for success.
Oct 24, 2018 at 4:23 PM
- LasVegasWally
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Originally posted by 9moon:
You want 4-3??
Lovie Smith
Jack Del Rio
Leslie Frazier
Jeff Ulbrich
4 Losers
Oct 24, 2018 at 4:36 PM
- bud49
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Let me ask is this Defensive scheme that damn complicated?
Oct 24, 2018 at 6:42 PM
- NYniner85
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This big run brought to you courtesy of Fred Warner and Sheldon Day.
— Oscar Aparicio (@BetterRivals) October 24, 2018
Another basic alignment issue (3 guys in 2 gaps) allows for a big run. https://t.co/PdrRtCaNSP
Oct 24, 2018 at 6:48 PM
- RiceOwensStokes
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3 names I wouldn't mind
Todd Bowles(If jets fire him)
Vic Fangio (fantasy, but if the Bears somehow let him go, I would take him in a heart beat
Jeff Fisher (some will laugh but I think it would be exactly what Kyle needs, everyone knows how bad he was with the Rams, but they always had a solid defense with him, plus he'll be able to play them twice a year, it also doesn't hurt that he has history with the franchise)
Todd Bowles(If jets fire him)
Vic Fangio (fantasy, but if the Bears somehow let him go, I would take him in a heart beat
Jeff Fisher (some will laugh but I think it would be exactly what Kyle needs, everyone knows how bad he was with the Rams, but they always had a solid defense with him, plus he'll be able to play them twice a year, it also doesn't hurt that he has history with the franchise)