49ers take Tarvarius Moore-DB-Southern Mississippi

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
2 high pre-snap doesn't mean 2 high coverage. Fangio always showed a 2 high but nearly always brought a safety down and played either cover 6 or 3. I see us doing similar things to that because of our wide 9. That wide 9 usually requires a safety to fill in either in a fill and scrape role or straight fill role in the C Gap - especially if the offense flexes out a TE. What Fangio would do, if the offense ran a PA and we were in cover 6 or 3, the playside safety would attack downhill in a filling capacity and the backside safety would drop into a deep coverage. That way, if it's a run to that side you have a safety flying down like a missile in run support and yet still have deep coverage over the middle. I see us doing that kind of stuff.

If I remember correctly, Fangio ran a system based out of Quarters (lots of Cover6). Quarters safeties have a run fit so if the run play goes to the Quarters side, like you said, they come flying in for run support.

Yeah.....isn't that what I said? I just meant 2 high in that you had 2 safeties back. Because of the way this defense plays their outside guys I see us having a lot more pressed look, but, like we've seen the past 2 years, those outside guys will bail out often right before the snap in their deep 1/3 coverage. The hard part will be on the WILL backer as he'll have more post-snap reading to do. He's go to remember, if it's a run action away from him but a pass, he's got the weakside flat coverage. That can be tough duty.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
2 high pre-snap doesn't mean 2 high coverage. Fangio always showed a 2 high but nearly always brought a safety down and played either cover 6 or 3. I see us doing similar things to that because of our wide 9. That wide 9 usually requires a safety to fill in either in a fill and scrape role or straight fill role in the C Gap - especially if the offense flexes out a TE. What Fangio would do, if the offense ran a PA and we were in cover 6 or 3, the playside safety would attack downhill in a filling capacity and the backside safety would drop into a deep coverage. That way, if it's a run to that side you have a safety flying down like a missile in run support and yet still have deep coverage over the middle. I see us doing that kind of stuff.

If I remember correctly, Fangio ran a system based out of Quarters (lots of Cover6). Quarters safeties have a run fit so if the run play goes to the Quarters side, like you said, they come flying in for run support.

Yeah.....isn't that what I said? I just meant 2 high in that you had 2 safeties back. Because of the way this defense plays their outside guys I see us having a lot more pressed look, but, like we've seen the past 2 years, those outside guys will bail out often right before the snap in their deep 1/3 coverage. The hard part will be on the WILL backer as he'll have more post-snap reading to do. He's go to remember, if it's a run action away from him but a pass, he's got the weakside flat coverage. That can be tough duty.

I was agreeing with you.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Right I understand what interchangeable means in regards to safety play

There's been talks about them using more 2-high from the current DB coach...(I can't remember which podcast it was from talking about using it more towards the end of last season) I want to say Maiocco or Better rivals spoke about it

Oh ok. It felt like you were correcting Furlow because you thought he was wrong.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Lets Hope Sherman's ACL holds up.

ACL?

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
2 high pre-snap doesn't mean 2 high coverage. Fangio always showed a 2 high but nearly always brought a safety down and played either cover 6 or 3. I see us doing similar things to that because of our wide 9. That wide 9 usually requires a safety to fill in either in a fill and scrape role or straight fill role in the C Gap - especially if the offense flexes out a TE. What Fangio would do, if the offense ran a PA and we were in cover 6 or 3, the playside safety would attack downhill in a filling capacity and the backside safety would drop into a deep coverage. That way, if it's a run to that side you have a safety flying down like a missile in run support and yet still have deep coverage over the middle. I see us doing that kind of stuff.

If I remember correctly, Fangio ran a system based out of Quarters (lots of Cover6). Quarters safeties have a run fit so if the run play goes to the Quarters side, like you said, they come flying in for run support.

Yeah.....isn't that what I said? I just meant 2 high in that you had 2 safeties back. Because of the way this defense plays their outside guys I see us having a lot more pressed look, but, like we've seen the past 2 years, those outside guys will bail out often right before the snap in their deep 1/3 coverage. The hard part will be on the WILL backer as he'll have more post-snap reading to do. He's go to remember, if it's a run action away from him but a pass, he's got the weakside flat coverage. That can be tough duty.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by OsBoogie:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

I think/hope that even Harris will be there before DJ

he very well may be camp fodder

DJ is a slot corner.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Right I understand what interchangeable means in regards to safety play

There's been talks about them using more 2-high from the current DB coach...(I can't remember which podcast it was from talking about using it more towards the end of last season) I want to say Maiocco or Better rivals spoke about it

Oh ok. It felt like you were correcting Furlow because you thought he was wrong.

nope I wasn't trying to do that

Originally posted by T-9ers:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
So basically what every scouting report said about him then.

If the scouting report said "not ready to contribute ", then I guess.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by T-9ers:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

So basically what every scouting report said about him then.

If the scouting report said "not ready to contribute ", then I guess.

https://syndication-bleacherreport-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2772033-tarvarius-moore-nfl-draft-2018-scouting-report-san-francisco-49ers-pick.amp.html?usqp=mq331AQDoAEA&amp_js_v=0.1#aoh=15592558872840&amp_ct=1559255889291&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

This scouting report, and others, say he should be an early contributor, so he's not raw.

Originally posted by Furlow:

I didn't take it that way.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by OsBoogie:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

I think/hope that even Harris will be there before DJ

he very well may be camp fodder

DJ is a slot corner.

Not DJ Reed, Dontae Johnson is who these were about

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:

Moore could well become the "X" factor in the secondary...can fill in at CB or S. He could develop into a very important piece for Coach Woods & DC Saleh. Competition will determine who starts, but you can never have too many good players in the secondary.